CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

JP Liz V1 · 31-03-2020 09:29PM

sterz wrote: »

The amount of people here who begin their posts with OMG, DEAR GOD, JESUS, etc, is incredible.

What would you prefer, heart thumbs up emoji

Professor Moriarty · 31-03-2020 09:30PM

JoChervil wrote: »

Yes, a quote from this article:
"The potential risk factors of older age, high SOFA score, and d-dimer greater than 1 μg/mL could help clinicians to identify patients with poor prognosis at an early stage."

I don't see strong immune system here

Why would you need a strong immune system to kill you when you are already weak and compromised? That article does not dispute the fact that it is your own immune response triggered by Covid-19 that is primarily the cause of death.

RogerThis · 31-03-2020 09:30PM

expectationlost wrote: »

add source an date of data

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/5ac125-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-31-march-20/#cases-by-county

Stheno · 31-03-2020 09:32PM

Spudmonkey wrote: »

Simple Simon? Varadkardashian? Did you come up with those all on your own? Pity to see there are such small minded individuals out there complaining about all and anything being done by the government! Why such experts spend their time sitting on their holes at home complaining rather than stepping up I really don't know.

Said poster claims to work in the HSE and ignored many of the guidelines previously

Quantum Erasure · 31-03-2020 09:33PM

SuperTortoise wrote: »

Can you post a link to that article, i would'nt mind reading it, thanks.

just google the quote, it'll be the first result

fritzelly · 31-03-2020 09:33PM

RogerThis wrote: »

There is a difference in unknowns for ages, but there are unknowns for sex too.
These aren't last minute data, it's from two days ago.

Ask Dr Holohan then - he's the only person who knows for sure
I'm just speculating on the likely cause - it's hardly the end of the world if there is some unknown data for a county

JoChervil · 31-03-2020 09:33PM

SuperTortoise wrote: »

Can you post a link to that article, i would'nt mind reading it, thanks.

I can't I am a newbee, I can't send links but google: The Lancet 191 Wuhan

31-03-2020 09:34PM

OUTOFSYNC wrote: »

There are many many academic , private and even a few government DNA testing labs that would have the equipment needed to extract dna/ rna and identify the genetic code. It's a standard laboratory technique for a biologist. There are many biologists and biology labs in Ireland. The testing could be done 24 hours.

Tonnes of labs and tonnes of scientists is what was stated. And it’s not that simple either. The labs need the right controls and protocols to begin with. If it was as easy as you suggest we could do 59k a day with no issue

Professor Moriarty · 31-03-2020 09:34PM

JoChervil wrote: »

I can't I am a newbee, I can't send links but google: The Lancet 191 Wuhan

Here you go.

JP Liz V1 · 31-03-2020 09:35PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Mad to think the first case in China was only confirmed 3 months to the day

I thought it was in Wuhan last November 17th or 19th

JoChervil · 31-03-2020 09:36PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Why would you need a strong immune system to kill you when you are already weak and compromised? That article does not dispute the fact that it is your own immune response triggered by Covid-19 that is primarily the cause of death.

It was in Spanish flu, not in Covid-19

RogerThis · 31-03-2020 09:36PM

fritzelly wrote: »

Ask Dr Holohan then - he's the only person who knows for sure
I'm just speculating on the likely cause - it's hardly the end of the world if there is some unknown data for a county

They also got the calculation for Cavan wrong

Cavan 24 1.2%

Should be 0.9%

NegativeCreep · 31-03-2020 09:39PM

OUTOFSYNC wrote: »

There are many many academic , private and even a few government DNA testing labs that would have the equipment needed to extract dna/ rna and identify the genetic code. It's a standard laboratory technique for a biologist. There are many biologists and biology labs in Ireland. The testing could be done 24 hours.

What reason do you think they have for not using all of that then? Do you think they aren’t bothered enough to look into it as hard as you have?

The government will use any resources they have available to them in order to ensure reduction of infection because it’s in everyone’s best interest. Simply saying that the test can be done in 24 hours does not make it so.

Professor Moriarty · 31-03-2020 09:39PM

JoChervil wrote: »

It was in Spanish flu, not in Covid-19

What was in Spanish Flu?

0lddog · 31-03-2020 09:42PM

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coronavirus/captain-of-coronavirus-hit-us-aircraft-carrier-with-up-to-5000-crew-asks-for-urgent-help/ar-BB11YFrj?li=BBTgOZ0

DevilsHaircut · 31-03-2020 09:42PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

There are shortages in 2 things.

Viral Lysis buffer: needed to break down the virus particles and release its RNA.
This can be made in Ireland with the right reagents and recipe. I've seen a couple of reports of college laboratories making the buffer for labs which is great.

There are also shortages in RNA extraction solutions. This is manufactured and cannot be made easily.

This is the material other countries are also in huge demand for. I dont know where we source it.

The RNA extraction kits seem to be by Qiagen (a Dutch company).

https://cen.acs.org/analytical-chemistry/diagnostics/Shortage-RNA-extraction-kits-hampers/98/web/2020/03

Rufeo · 31-03-2020 09:42PM

The hospital ship?

JP Liz V1 · 31-03-2020 09:44PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/5ac125-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-31-march-20/

The Health Protection Surveillance Centre has today been informed that 17 patients diagnosed with COVID-19 in Ireland have died.
8 deaths located in the east, 3 in the south, 3 in the north-west and 3 in the west of the country
patients included 4 females and 13 males
median age of today’s reported deaths is 84
8 patients were reported as having underlying health conditions

There have now been 71 COVID-19 related deaths in Ireland.

The Health Protection Surveillance Centre has been informed of 325 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 in Ireland, as at 1pm, Tuesday 31 March

The deaths are increasing (RIP those 17)

Del.Monte · 31-03-2020 09:44PM

Rufeo wrote: »

The hospital ship?

No - why not click on the link.

FLOOPER · 31-03-2020 09:44PM

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

What was in Spanish Flu?

It was certainly a theory batted around that Spanish flu invoked an aggressive response from the patients immune system hence explaining why so many healthy young people died and why the very young and old weren’t as affected.

It’s one theory anyway from what I have read.

fritzelly · 31-03-2020 09:45PM

RogerThis wrote: »

They also got the calculation for Cavan wrong

Should be 0.9%

I think you're on to something - it's a conspiracy to hide the real numbers :rolleyes:

Talisman · 31-03-2020 09:45PM

Why is Cillian de Gascun facing questions about ICUs? He's the head of the NVRL.

FVP3 · 31-03-2020 09:45PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

It's a bad news story. Want do you want reports of disneyland opening back up for parades?

But not all the news is bad, is it? The frog doesnt report the good news, and people who do dont get the thanks from the morbid brigade.

France had a low number of cases a few days ago and no link from anybody

Everything posted is the worst thing of that day. Low figures are not believed; Germany's death rate was too low for the morbid zombies., China is 40 times higher, Africa is doomed before it begins there.

Nevertheless the exponential trend, even in places like Italy, is falling.

Anyway I will be posting relatively good news every day. I do still work so I wont be able to rebut all the nonsense.

cameramonkey · 31-03-2020 09:46PM

https://twitter.com/x_Kenno_x/status/1244693273148612611

Jinglejangle69 · 31-03-2020 09:47PM

An RTÉ presenter on 450k using twitter as a source?

Get off the seat Mirium, fraud.

Zardaz · 31-03-2020 09:47PM

RogerThis wrote: »

They also got the calculation for Cavan wrong

Should be 0.9%

Carlow is actually 4 (as the only <=5 remainder from previous day's table) and Cavan should then be 24+7 = 31, that makes it sum correctly and Cavan = 1.16% rounded = 1.2%

Professor Moriarty · 31-03-2020 09:48PM

FLOOPER wrote: »

It was certainly a theory batted around that Spanish flu invoked an aggressive response from the patient hence explaining why so many healthy young people died and why the very young and old weren’t as affected.

It’s one theory anyway from what I have read.

Covid-19 is doing the same to elderly/ill people now. Their immune system goes into overdrive.

Kermit.de.frog · 31-03-2020 09:48PM

20,078 new cases in the US so far today and 578 new fatalities.

They are going to smash yesterday's figures.

What's Trump's next move?

calgary bound · 31-03-2020 09:49PM

Talisman wrote: »

Why is Cillian de Gascun facing questions about ICUs? He's the head of the NVRL.

Chairperson of Covid Expert Group

Funsterdelux · 31-03-2020 09:50PM

Dank Janniels wrote: »

So much fake news +BS on facebook. Every1 posting about donating baby moniters to hospitals so staff dont need to change scrubs +masks. Any truth to this? Sounds like a direlection of duty to me but kinda makes since in avoiding wasting PPE gear.
Another post goin aroind is a line of coffins in a church but its actualy a pic from the earthquake they had afew yers ago, another tradegy bit not Covid related

I hope not, any of the ones we had were shîte

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP