CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

Duke of Url wrote: »

I think if we are the UK we would have 44,000 cases. I could be wrong.

yeah that's right, the UK have 25k cases

RogerThis wrote: »

Stats per county not adding up to 2677

Every set of figures they have have unknowns

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

No, if you're going to die from Covid-19, it is because your immune system overreacts and attacks your organs - primarily your lungs. Unless you have a preexisting condition that's exacerbated by Covid-19 and you die from that.

In those cases do they treat the patients with immune-suppressant drugs? And if so is it a case of those drugs just not working?

JoChervil wrote: »

Well, an article in The Lancet analysing 181 cases from Wuhan claimed it was connected with D-dimers and blood clothing

Are you saying that Covid-19 deaths are not primarily caused by the immune system attacking the lungs/organs and cytokine attacks?

gabeeg wrote: »

Oh spare me the pious crap.

This has zero to do with out frontline staff.

No its you trying to get a swing as the politicians and the HSE I am just wondering why your not coming out and saying so instead of hiding behind IT'S NOT TESTS ITS SWABBING. Anyway I am finished with this time to go and do something fun and destress

no.8 wrote: »

I'd recommend looking at last night's video to get up to speed on that. It was based on modeling where no mitigation took place

Stop talking sense...it's Leo's fault don't ya know?

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What do you think a physicist, or a chemistry lab would have to offer? Specifics equipment and specific analysts are required. Maybe you could train a chemist familiar with NMR in PCR if you had the right equipment available, but it’s not as simple as sending samples to all the laps in the country

There are many many academic , private and even a few government DNA testing labs that would have the equipment needed to extract dna/ rna and identify the genetic code. It's a standard laboratory technique for a biologist. There are many biologists and biology labs in Ireland. The testing could be done 24 hours.

Talisman wrote: »

The figure is less than 50% for isolation units. You may not find exact numbers but the best place to look is the annual report for critical care capacity in the HSE.

https://www.hse.ie/eng/about/who/cspd/ncps/critical-care/critical-care-capacity-planning/national-adult-critical-care-capacity-census-2019-report.pdf

Thanks very much, makes for grim reading in light of our current situation.

It would seem to confirm the envisaged difficulty of physical separation for COVID-19 patients.

If CPAP is to be used to relieve strain on limited resources of ventilators in ICUs, it needs to be be done in an environment where seal leakage will not pose a transference problem and where all medical staff can work in fully comprehensive enclosed PPE.

Hopefully the plan is to use the newly activated centers for this purpose, but like everything else there is ^no^ real information available.

weldoninhio wrote: »

The “ramping up of tests” etc was a PR exercise. The “we have plenty of PPE” was a PR exercise.
The bullshyte about getting to “15,000 tests a day” was a PR exercise.

All we are getting from Simple Simon and Varadkardashian is spin and PR bluster.

Simple Simon? Varadkardashian? Did you come up with those all on your own? Pity to see there are such small minded individuals out there complaining about all and anything being done by the government! Why such experts spend their time sitting on their holes at home complaining rather than stepping up I really don't know.

gmisk wrote: »

So would everyone.... but we can't force Northern Ireland to implement the same policies at the same time as us (although there are meetings going on between ROI and the NI executive).
Northern Ireland have 28 the ROI have 71.
So NI disproportionately high to ROI.
NI testing very few for a long long time as well

NI 28/99 = 28.3% of deaths and makes up about 27.3% of the population of Ireland.

Saying Northern Ireland's deaths are disproportionately high may be factually correct, but it is so minimal it's not worthy of a mention.

The only certainty is that NI and the island as a whole are faring a lot better than England and Wales.

weldoninhio wrote: »

You don’t have to be smart to know Leo Varadkar is all fart, no poo. Everything is about his image and public perception to him. Didn’t he rehire his expensive PR man as soon as this crisis kicked off.

The bizarre thing about this post (aside from it being a subjective opinion) is that on some threads you wear a hat such as this and on more you wear one supporting Trump. How do you think Leo compares to the D in terms of concerns about public image?

JoChervil wrote: »

Yes, a quote from this article:
"The potential risk factors of older age, high SOFA score, and d-dimer greater than 1 μg/mL could help clinicians to identify patients with poor prognosis at an early stage."

I don't see strong immune system here

Can you post a link to that article, i would'nt mind reading it, thanks.

Gynoid wrote:

Where does this reagent come from, do you know? Abroad? Is it expensive? Difficult to make? Thanks.

There are shortages in 2 things.

Viral Lysis buffer: needed to break down the virus particles and release its RNA.
This can be made in Ireland with the right reagents and recipe. I've seen a couple of reports of college laboratories making the buffer for labs which is great.

There are also shortages in RNA extraction solutions. This is manufactured and cannot be made easily.

This is the material other countries are also in huge demand for. I dont know where we source it.

fritzelly wrote: »

Same way they have unknowns for the ages - maybe it's last minute data that hasn't been correlated yet

There is a difference in unknowns for ages, but there are unknowns for sex too.
These aren't last minute data, it's from two days ago.