CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP

Macdarack · 31-03-2020 08:39PM

blackcard wrote: »

One of the learnings from the 2010 big freeze was to have sufficient salt available for our roads and this hasn't been an issue since. Some of the learnings from the current crisis?
Sufficient ventilators?
Additional Test kits?
Sufficient reagents?
Sufficient masks and other personal protection equipment?
Additional measures for nursing homes?
Measures such as perspex glass in shops?
Hygiene education and practices?
Increased numbers of ICU's?
Increased capability to work from home?
Not to believe a fraction of what you read on social media?
Social distancing?
What else?

Bog roll for the simpletons.

bekker · 31-03-2020 08:39PM

There does not seem to be any separation of COVID-19 infected patients from non-COVID-19 patients in ICUs and HDUs in Ireland is that correct?

Can't find any information available on physically separate units, all appear to be accommodated within existing structures.

This could become crucial going forward.

Tandey · 31-03-2020 08:39PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

People were swabbed because they were referred by their GPs who were following HSE guidelines.
They didn't just rock up to Croker off their own bat to get tested.

No, they did off a bat from China.

is_that_so · 31-03-2020 08:40PM

A familiar story to us on PPE.

The Canadian government aid it would spend C$2 billion to help buy supplies amid complaints from some doctors and nurses about shortages of personal protection equipment.

martingriff · 31-03-2020 08:40PM

gabeeg wrote: »

They've been knocked up in far less time in a month around the world, and we've had known cases outside of China for well over a month.

Knocked up labs or places to used for testing people. Labs can not be knocked up unless you have the specialized equipment and been calibrated to do the test.

gozunda · 31-03-2020 08:40PM

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

I'm very curious as to why they haven't been able to run more tests . They are firing money around like mad at the moment so it can't be that.

They've ran out of supplies several times afaik when taking scheduled swabs. That and a shortage of reagent to test swabs taken from those referred for testing.

There is currently a backlog of people awaiting their test results.

Looks like the system for swabbing / testing is not working particularly well tbh.

is_that_so · 31-03-2020 08:41PM

Duke of Url wrote: »

Critically ill patients with Covid19 in Ireland will be asked to take part in a clinical trial on how to treat the disease.

The trial will test the effects of different interventions for Covid 19 patients, who are being treated in intensive care units.

These interventions include antiviral drugs and immunomodulatory drugs.

St Vincent's University Hospital in Dublin and University Hospital Galway will begin the trialing these interventions next week, which is part of a global research effort to tackle the pandemic.

Other hospitals, including Beaumont Hospital, Cork University Hospital, University Hospital Limerick and the Royal Victoria Hospital in Belfast are also expected to take part in the trial at a later date.

RTE

Is that part of the WHO megatrial?

Fr_Dougal · 31-03-2020 08:41PM

SuperTortoise wrote: »

Why does it effect two similar people in different ways, take for example two confirmed cases, both around the same age, both healthy with no underlying conditions, yet one might have very mild symptoms and the other might end up in ICU, could it have anything to do with the load of infection, i.e one gets a large dose and the body does'nt have time to react? Has anyone come across any research done on this?

Think I read somewhere that it’s down to individual immune systems, some go into overdrive and that’s what causes the issues.

gabeeg · 31-03-2020 08:41PM

martingriff wrote: »

But they are testing people. When I go and get my bloods done I say I am getting tests I don't wait until I get the results to say I got a test today. All you are trying to do is mix words for a narrative does not seem to be working on most

The test isn't completed until the results are back.

If you go to a hospital and have blood removed from you then that does not mean you've had a test done. It just means they've taken your blood.

The actual testing is rather a crucial element of a ****ing test.

gmisk · 31-03-2020 08:42PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

It will get far higher than that over the next few weeks. Trump will still try to gloss over it though.

He already is....by pointing to viewing figures for the white House press conferences....I wish I was joking

Kermit.de.frog · 31-03-2020 08:42PM

cajonlardo wrote: »

some lecturing so & so... isn't going to lecture me.

And this folks is the type of specimen responsible for the forced measures that need to be taken restricting your lives.

Unfortunately some are just incapable of behaving responsibly.

eagle eye · 31-03-2020 08:42PM

Went to Tesco today. Guy outside wiping down a shopping trolley, then he calls his wife and she brings the kid over and puts him in the shopping trolley. Like wtf are you doing very bringing your wife and child of to the shop with you?
Then in the shop he is handing lots of items to his child to put in the trolley.

Duke of Url · 31-03-2020 08:42PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Jnj ramping up for production of a vaccine by September. They are trying to take the time to produce mass numbers out of it. If enough giant companies do this it may reduce the wait time by 6 to 9 months.

If they share the licence with other big pharma it would be manufactured quick smart. I fear it won’t.

Supercell · 31-03-2020 08:43PM

I've seen on another forum that the testing is not able to distinguish between COVID19 and the regular coronavirus, aka the common cold. This could explain the disparity in symptoms in many cases, it really is just a cold the person has.
Would love to get a doctor's comment on that.

gabeeg · 31-03-2020 08:43PM

bekker wrote: »

There does not seem to be any separation of COVID-19 infected patients from non-COVID-19 patients in ICUs and HDUs in Ireland is that correct?

Can't find any information available on physically separate units, all appear to be accommodated within existing structures.

This could become crucial going forward.

I can't find any info and I'm not going to look for it.

Of course that isn't the case. Think about it

beolight · 31-03-2020 08:43PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

People were swabbed because they were referred by their GPs who were following HSE guidelines.
They didn't just rock up to Croker off their own bat to get tested.

Same doctors could only claim their €30 fee for referrals
No referral no fee

fritzelly · 31-03-2020 08:44PM

Supercell wrote: »

I've seen on another forum that the testing is not able to distinguish between COVID19 and the regular coronavirus, aka the common cold. This could explain the disparity in symptoms in many cases, it really is just a cold the person has.
Would love to get a doctor's comment on that.

The test is for this coronavirus not all coronavirus (probably got the info from twitter or whatsapp)

Brianmwalker · 31-03-2020 08:44PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Jnj ramping up for production of a vaccine by September. They are trying to take the time to produce mass numbers out of it. If enough giant companies do this it may reduce the wait time by 6 to 9 months.

Who in their right mind would take a vaccine with such limited testing!

niallo27 · 31-03-2020 08:45PM

Duke of Url wrote: »

If they share the licence with other big pharma it would be manufactured quick smart. I fear it won’t.

Well they are the ones pumping massive money in on something that might not even be useable so you have to expect them to profit off it. A company like jnj could mass produce easily.

martingriff · 31-03-2020 08:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why not hire some of the equipment off the pharmacutical industry/hire some.their staff??

I know of 2 large pharma factories,which are effectively closed at the min

Do they have the specific equipment, are they calibrated for the tests. You can just hire someone off the streets and go here are tests to be prossessed. Here is a screenshot of what your looking for

31-03-2020 08:45PM

fritzelly wrote: »

You won't give up and just admit you are wrong - confirmed from multiple sources it is that day's figure

The numbers are clearly cumulative, just look at the damn numbers. They are all totals in every column! No one has confirmed they are the days figures in fact it was confirmed in yesterday's briefing they are cumulative when it was clearly stated that they are.

weldoninhio · 31-03-2020 08:45PM

flashforward wrote: »

To confirm they were never 'testing' 5000 per day.
They were Swabbing 5000 per day

On the 23rd march they were get results at a rate of 1350/day

We are now at 1500/day

People can bury their heads in the sand all they want but we have no clue where we are with this thing.

All this push to open new test 'swabbing' centres with no capacity to convert these to results.....

It was all a PR exercise for Leo and Simon. And the majority fell for it.

Duke of Url · 31-03-2020 08:46PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Is that part of the WHO megatrial?

Not sure

The trial involves research teams in Ireland, the UK, Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, Singapore, New Zealand, Australia and Canada, and they will share their data quickly.

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0331/1127678-coronavirus-ireland-clinical-trials/

woohoo!!! · 31-03-2020 08:46PM

The latest in face masks

https://images.app.goo.gl/fjPZUzrtLrpESszX7

crc_73 · 31-03-2020 08:47PM

Brianmwalker wrote: »

Who in their right mind would take a vaccine with such limited testing!

Life-sentence prisoners?

Reckless Abandonment · 31-03-2020 08:47PM

Brianmwalker wrote: »

Who in their right mind would take a vaccine with such limited testing!

Someone over 80.

niallo27 · 31-03-2020 08:47PM

Brianmwalker wrote: »

Who in their right mind would take a vaccine with such limited testing!

Could be up to 9 months of testing before released. We have never experienced anything like this before. My point is they will produce before it's been cleared to use to reduce the wait time.

Gynoid · 31-03-2020 08:48PM

tuxy wrote: »

What's more common in my area is people standing in one spot, usually in the way of people trying to walk.
Just looking around at random things in the hope of spotting something interesting. It looks so odd.

Zombies. Sorry.

Tandey · 31-03-2020 08:48PM

Went to get some diesel earlier this evening. Went to an applegreen that has a Burger King open for business, within the building.

What I saw next I could not believe and had to do more than a double take. As I was parking a noticed a guy in the passenger seat of a SUV gobbling down some chips while wearing a pair of those surgical gloves. Must admit I did lol at him.

cajonlardo · 31-03-2020 08:48PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

And this folks is the type of specimen responsible for the forced measures that need to be taken restricting your lives.

Unfortunately some are just incapable of behaving responsibly.

If that is, directed at me, you will need to back up your irresponsible claim

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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) Read OP