CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP** - Page 112

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#3332 31-03-2020 08:13PM

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Looks like Dr Tony grabbed his chest and said I don't feel well.

https://twitter.com/AoifWhelan/status/1245066111412027397

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#3333 31-03-2020 08:13PM

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forumdedum wrote: »

Worldometer saying 415 new cases today in Ireland. Typo? Yesterday's 295 figure accurate

Maybe there doing island of Ireland?

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#3334 31-03-2020 08:14PM

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cameramonkey wrote: »

Why are they saying they are testing 5000 a day then?

I believe the swab part is OK, the lab kits is where there seems to be a big shortage of reagents. Negotiations underway.

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#3335 31-03-2020 08:14PM

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flashforward wrote: »

They were never testing 5000 a day. They were swabbing 5000 / day

I've been trying to explain this over numerous posts.

Finally the farce has been exposed

The farce has been exposed? Oh give over.

94% of people are testing negative, we are referring people with symptoms.

There is no other way to do This.

We’re a country of hypochondriacs.

We’re going to test the people who need it.
The actual number is irrelevant.

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#3336 31-03-2020 08:14PM

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The journos are trawling through boards

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#3337 31-03-2020 08:15PM

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There was a 95% negative rate at one point

No point in wasting test kits either??

True and they had changed the threshold for testing. So this should catch more positives. people are staying home the virus will burn itself out over the next few weeks / month. Then we deal with the movement of people into the country.

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#3338 31-03-2020 08:15PM

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Sleety_Rain wrote: »

The journos are trawling through boards

Paddy Cosgrave is on all their feeds.

It's a problem for the HSE cos twitter spreads muck whether they acknowledge a given account or tweet ot not, and if they do engage then they know they'll start a twitter fire and there would be endless charge and counter charge.

So on balance they are right to play dumb so to speak

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#3339 31-03-2020 08:15PM

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Sleety_Rain wrote: »

The journos are trawling through boards

def ref reagents and masks

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#3340 31-03-2020 08:16PM

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bennyl10 wrote: »

The farce has been exposed? Oh give over.

94% of people are testing negative, we are referring people with symptoms.

There is no other way to do This.

We’re a country of hypochondriacs.

We’re going to test the people who need it.
The actual number is irrelevant.

People were swabbed because they were referred by their GPs who were following HSE guidelines.
They didn't just rock up to Croker off their own bat to get tested.

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#3341 31-03-2020 08:17PM

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Fann Linn wrote: »

People were swabbed because they were referred by their GPs who were following HSE guidelines.
They didn't just rock up to Croker off their own bat to get tested.

Yes, and GPs were referring anyone with a cough.
Hence the really High negative rate

This way we’re far far more likely to get actually cases and not those who a bottle of Benilyn will do the job for!

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#3342 31-03-2020 08:17PM

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cameramonkey wrote: »

Wide spread testing is what the WHO recommend, so no test is really wasted .
It gives you a good idea of how widespread the virus is spreading or not.

I would disagree we should be getting to people with symptoms first (reason that it is now 2 symptoms a WHO recommendation). The whole country and it mother was going for tests meaning does who should have been tested might not have been. It also considerable slows down getting results back

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#3343 31-03-2020 08:18PM

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cameramonkey wrote: »

Wide spread testing is what the WHO recommend, so no test is really wasted .
It gives you a good idea of how widespread the virus is spreading or not.

I agree

But if we have a limited number of test kits....surely its prudent to have more targeted testing?

Like at a 5% positive rate,its hard to imagine its rampant outside of those being tested?

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#3344 31-03-2020 08:18PM

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Fann Linn wrote: »

People were swabbed because they were referred by their GPs who were following HSE guidelines.
They didn't just rock up to Croker off their own bat to get tested.

If gp doesn't see the patient their referral is based on what the patient tells them.

Ie lies for a test for reassurance.

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#3345 31-03-2020 08:18PM

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bennyl10 wrote: »

The farce has been exposed? Oh give over.

94% of people are testing negative, we are referring people with symptoms.

There is no other way to do This.

We’re a country of hypochondriacs.

We’re going to test the people who need it.
The actual number is irrelevant.

3235 active cases
~30200 tests completed

10.7% by very basic maths....

The rest of your post doesnt warrant a response

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#3346 31-03-2020 08:19PM

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Fann Linn wrote: »

People were swabbed because they were referred by their GPs who were following HSE guidelines.
They didn't just rock up to Croker off their own bat to get tested.

They were assessed over the phone. Telling your doctor you have a cough and a temperature was enough to get a test referral. There is a huge proportion of people in this country that are morons and hypochondriacs.

They are the ones that clog up the system.

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#3347 31-03-2020 08:19PM

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Ireland Reported Coronavirus Statistics - Day 32 - Tuesday 31/03/2020

Today's Stats:-
Total accumulated cases: 3235
Daily case increase: 11.28%
Daily case confirmation increase/decrease: 10.17%
Mortality rate: 2.19%
*Recovery rate: 0.15%
Poplulation infected: 0.066%

Average daily cases change since day 1 (29/02/20): 32.82%
Average daily cases change last 10 days (since 22/03/20): 15.29%
Average daily cases change last 7 days (since 25/03/20): 13.60%
Average daily cases last 3 days (since 29/03/20): 10.24%

Average daily case confirmation since day 1 (29/02/20): 38.89%
Average daily case confirmation last 10 days (since 22/03/20): 15.80%
Average daily case confirmation last 7 days (since 25/03/20): 9.31%
Average daily case confirmation last 3 days (since 29/03/20): 8.57%

For comparrison, yesterday's day 1, 3 day, 7 day and 10 day averages:-

GM228 wrote: »

Average daily cases change since day 1 (29/02/20): 33.52%
Average daily cases change last 10 days (since 21/03/20): 15.67%
Average daily cases change last 7 days (since 24/03/20): 14.59%
Average daily cases last 3 days (since 28/03/20): 11.14%

Average daily case confirmation since day 1 (29/02/20): 39.81%
Average daily case confirmation last 10 days (since 21/03/20): 12.87%
Average daily case confirmation last 7 days (since 24/03/20): 6.88%
Average daily case confirmation last 3 days (since 28/03/20): 4.29%

DAY

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DATE

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Cases

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New Cases

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Total Cases

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Case Increase

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Daily Reporting Change

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Deaths to date

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Mortality Rate

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Hospitalised

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Hospital Rate

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ICU

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ICU Rate

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*Recovered

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Recovery Rate

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Population %

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**Current Active Cases

1|29/02/2020|0|1|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|1
2|01/03/2020|1|0|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|1
3|02/03/2020|1|0|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|1
4|03/03/2020|1|1|2|100.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|2
5|04/03/2020|2|4|6|200.00%|300.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|6
6|05/03/2020|6|7|13|116.67%|75.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|13
7|06/03/2020|13|5|18|38.46%|-28.57%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|18
8|07/03/2020|18|1|19|5.56%|-80.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|19
9|08/03/2020|19|2|21|10.53%|100.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|21
10|09/03/2020|21|3|24|14.29%|50.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|24
11|10/03/2020|24|10|34|41.67%|233.33%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%|34
12|11/03/2020|34|9|43|26.47%|-10.00%|1|2.33%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%|42
13|12/03/2020|43|27|70|62.79%|200.00%|1|1.43%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%|69
14|13/03/2020|70|20|90|28.57%|-25.93%|1|1.11%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.002%|89
15|14/03/2020|90|39|129|43.33%|95.00%|2|1.55%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.003%|127
16|15/03/2020|129|40|169|31.01%|2.56%|2|1.18%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.003%|167
17|16/03/2020|169|54|223|31.95%|35.00%|2|0.90%|84|37.7%|6|2.69%|5|2.24%|0.005%|216
18|17/03/2020|223|69|292|30.94%|27.78%|2|0.68%|108|37%|7|2.40%|5|1.71%|0.006%|285
19|18/03/2020|292|74|366|25.34%|7.25%|2|0.55%|140|38.8%|12|3.28%%|5|1.37%|0.007%|359
20|19/03/2020|366|191|557|52.19%|158.11%|3|0.54%|173|31.1%|13|2.33%|5|0.9%|0.011%|549
21|20/03/2020|557|126|683|22.62%|-34.03%|3|0.44%|211|30.9%|17|2.49%|5|0.73%|0.014%|675
22|21/03/2020|683|102|785|14.93%|-19.05%|3|0.38%|239|30.4%|25|3.18%|5|0.64%|0.016%|777
23|22/03/2020|785|121|906|15.41%|18.63%|4|0.44%|277|30.6%|36|3.97%|5|0.64%|0.018%|897
24|23/03/2020|906|219|1125|24.17%|80.99%|6|0.53%|305|27.1%|39|3.47%|5|0.44%|0.023%|1114
25|24/03/2020|1129|204|1329|18.13%|-6.85%|7|0.53%|340|25.61|47|3.54%|5|0.38%|0.027%|1317
26|25/03/2020|1329|235|1564|17.68%|15.20%|9|0.58%|419|26.8%|59|3.77%|5|0.32%|0.032%|1550
27|26/03/2020|1564|255|1819|16.30%|8.51%|19|1.04%|489|26.9%|67|3.68%|5|0.27%|0.037%|1795
28|27/03/2020|1819|302|2121|16.60%|18.43%|22|1.04%|564|26.6%|77|3.63%|5|0.24%|0.043%|2094
29|28/03/2020|2121|294|2415|13.86%|-2.65%|36|1.49%|645|26.7%|84|3.48%|5|0.21%|0.049%|2374
30|29/03/2020|2415|200|2615|8.28%|-31.97%|46|1.76%|703|26.9%|84|3.21%|5|0.19%|0.053%|2564
31|30/03/2020|2615|295|2910|11.28%|47.50%|54|1.86%|NR|NR|103|3.54%|5|0.17%|0.059%|2851
32|31/03/2020|2910|325|3235|11.17%|10.17%|71|2.19%|NR|NR|NR|NR|5|0.17%|0.059%|3159

NR = Not Reported

Source: Department of Health and the Health Protection Surveillaence Centre.

*"Recovered" rates are not reported by the Department of Health in the above link, these figures are taken from the Worldmeters and Johns Hopkins websites which use data suplied by the DoT to the ECDC under the WHO Guidelines for reporting. Recovered statistics can only be published as "recovered" following two successful tests of being clear of the virus under the WHO reporting guidelines, as a result it is likely the recovered data is skewed.

** Due to the above issue with reporting of revovered cases the number of active cases is also likely skewed.

Day 20 - Thursday 19/03/20 Stats
Day 21 - Friday 20/03/20 Stats
Day 22 - Saturday 21/03/20 Stats
Day 23 - Sunday 22/03/20 Stats
Day 24 - Monday 23/03/20 Stats
Day 25 - Tuesday 24/03/20 Stats
Day 26 - Wednesday 25/03/20 Stats
Day 27 - Thursday 26/03/20 Stats
Day 28 - Friday 27/03/20 Stats
Day 29 - Saturday 28/03/20 Stats
Day 30 - Sunday 29/03/20 Stats
Day 31 - Monday 30/03/20 Stats

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#3348 31-03-2020 08:20PM

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flashforward wrote: »

3235 active cases
~30200 tests completed

10.7% by very basic maths....

The rest of your post doesnt warrant a response

Until they changed the definition it was actually at 6%.

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#3349 31-03-2020 08:21PM

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spookwoman wrote: »

Breaking: 30,213 tests have been carried out to date.

Over the past week, the positivity rate for tests carried out has increased from 6% to 15%.

(NPHET says that was what they were trying to achieve by changing test guidelines.)
https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1245062115083329536?s=20

Of today's 17 deaths: ...
They were 4 females and 13 males.
Their median age was 84.

any theories on why it seems to affect men more than women?

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#3350 31-03-2020 08:21PM

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The INMO were always great at counting patients on trolleys. Perhaps we could get them in to count who's in the ICU? The lack of clarity over such an important indicator is comical.

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#3351 31-03-2020 08:21PM

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Sleety_Rain wrote: »

The journos are trawling through boards

I would think a good few have boards.ie accounts.

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#3352 31-03-2020 08:21PM

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Naggdefy wrote: »

The standard of jogging is very poor though. Saw some pedestrian jogging. It's not beautiful jogging.

Walked to the shop and a guy passed by me jogging. But he was panting very heavily, doing his best to spread whatever he might have.

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#3353 31-03-2020 08:22PM

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Fann Linn wrote: »

People were swabbed because they were referred by their GPs who were following HSE guidelines.
They didn't just rock up to Croker off their own bat to get tested.

Both De Gascun and Holohan have commented on people having other things and and they also mentioned a flu spike.

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#3354 31-03-2020 08:22PM

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There was a 95% negative rate at one point

No point in wasting test kits either??

We need to get back up to testing +5k each day with the more stringent criteria.

If we keep this low level of testing we won’t have a clear picture of the real number of infections.

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#3355 31-03-2020 08:22PM

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fritzelly wrote: »

Nope, 26 are on ventilators, rest are in ICU beds

https://mobile.twitter.com/rtenews/status/1245061894978678784?s=20

Intensive care units are under significant pressure due to the growing number of #Covid19 cases. 107 patients are on ventilators and 26 patients with suspected coronavirus are in ICU beds.

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#3356 31-03-2020 08:23PM

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flashforward wrote: »

3235 active cases
~30200 tests completed

10.7% by very basic maths....

The rest of your post doesnt warrant a response

Last week it was 94% negative

Now it is 90%

We are still well below what the expectation was, and we are looking quite good on a global level in terms of cases.

You can try and sound like Cosgrave all you want and sound from a high about a ‘farce’ and ‘conspiracy’

But fact doesn’t back it up at all.

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#3357 31-03-2020 08:23PM

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bennyl10 wrote: »

The farce has been exposed? Oh give over.

94% of people are testing negative, we are referring people with symptoms.

There is no other way to do This.

We’re a country of hypochondriacs.

We’re going to test the people who need it.
The actual number is irrelevant.

This is rubbish.

Dr Ryan of the World Health organization has said that testing should reveal between 3% and 15% positives.

If the percentage is more than 15% positive... you are not doing enough tests.

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#3358 31-03-2020 08:24PM

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bennyl10 wrote: »

Yes, and GPs were referring anyone with a cough.
Hence the really High negative rate

This way we’re far far more likely to get actually cases and not those who a bottle of Benilyn will do the job for!

If we are only able to process 1500 tests a day we are simply blind to what is happening.

The new criteria could(should) result in the expected positive rate of 30->50% this would still mean our cap for daily new cases is 750/day.

Unless we significantly increase the # of tests turned around/day we have no idea where we stand on any graph - flat or peaked

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#3359 31-03-2020 08:24PM

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bennyl10 wrote: »

Last week it was 94% negative

Now it is 90%

We are still well below what the expectation was, and we are looking quite good on a global level in terms of cases.

You can try and sound like Cosgrave all you want and sound from a high about a ‘farce’ and ‘conspiracy’

But fact doesn’t back it up at all.

No we are at 15% now :rolleyes:

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#3360 31-03-2020 08:24PM

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Quantum Erasure wrote: »

any theories on why it seems to affect men more than women?

Women generally have better immune systems due pregnancies etc. Also there are some genes for the immune system that are on the X chromosome, of which women have 2 but men have one.

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#3361 31-03-2020 08:24PM

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Duke of Url wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/rtenews/status/1245061894978678784?s=20

Other way around. 107 are ventilated 26 others in ICU

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