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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭john_doe.


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I'm in the same boat. Partner is a nurse. I just accepted that if she gets it I get it. We have kids but we know they'll be ok and we are healthy so chances are we will be ok. So we've been keeping ourselves away from extended family. Haven't seen any of them for over 2 weeks. If it hits our house we know we haven't exposed anyone else. Its tough but I'm happy knowing that she'll continue to work and do her job and I've told her not to feel guilty if I get it.

    How do you know kids will be okay?
    There is still risk there.
    If there is more than one nurse after dying , it's seriously troubling. It's crap time while most complain about being stuck inside , lot more dealing with harder problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    I'd rather be here than there.

    Big time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Heiser


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I'm in the same boat. Partner is a nurse. I just accepted that if she gets it I get it. We have kids but we know they'll be ok and we are healthy so chances are we will be ok. So we've been keeping ourselves away from extended family. Haven't seen any of them for over 2 weeks. If it hits our house we know we haven't exposed anyone else. Its tough but I'm happy knowing that she'll continue to work and do her job and I've told her not to feel guilty if I get it.


    Ye there's a part of me thinking theres probably no way to isolate away from her as we live together. Its the asthma that really worries me. And this talk of the virus damaging the lungs, mine are already in a bad way.

    I also work for another essential service in an office environment. I'm worried if I get it I could spread it before I get symptoms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Alex Gorsky CEO Johnson & Johnson said they're confident of rolling out a vaccine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,148 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Been hearing ads all day on the radio from https://www.covidresponsejobs.com/

    Signed up - may be handy for anyone looking for some short term work while their jobs are on hold and don't fit the criteria for the HSE jobs


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Christ am I seeing right that the Us have now gone from 8000 cases two weeks ago to just shy of 160000 today?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,148 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Corkgirl20 wrote: »
    Does anybody have a link for the age group distributions for infected patients in Ireland ? I remember finding it online but can’t seem to locate it now. Thanks

    All here
    https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/

    If you want fancy colours then
    https://coronavirus-ireland.com/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    Hopkins - 777k cases , 37k deaths
    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

    Looks like we’re going to hit 1 million cases some time tommorow probably.

    We won't. We're up 58,000 today. The highest jump has been 66,000 on Friday. We won't top a million for 4 days or so.

    TBH the maths on here is annoying the fcuk out of me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    We really need to increase the capacity of home deliveries from super markets. Most supermarkets seem to have about 12 deliveries a day. It needs to be more in the region of 80-100 each.

    Also we should drop the idea of the delivery person doing anything other than dropping the goods at the door. There shouldn't be any interaction with the delivery person. That's just common sense.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Stheno wrote: »
    Christ am I seeing right that the Us have now gone from 8000 cases two weeks ago to just shy of 160000 today?

    They're adding 20,000 a day at the moment and their testing levels are miles behind. They have some big issues.

    More concerning though is at a regional level. Particularly New York right now, but others will have problems.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,694 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgYxy3Py6V0

    Indian under the spotlight for disinfecting ppl like cattle.

    India is such an odd country. It will always be like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Stheno wrote: »
    Christ am I seeing right that the Us have now gone from 8000 cases two weeks ago to just shy of 160000 today?

    Tip of a very deep ice berg too. Situation is bleak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Strazdas wrote: »

    Thanks. I was looking for the size of social distancing group allowed for people from different residents. Initially it was 4 with each 2 metres apart.

    Now 2 people or zero person?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    We really need to increase the capacity of home deliveries from super markets. Most supermarkets seem to have about 12 deliveries a day. It needs to be more in the region of 80-100 each.

    Also we should drop the idea of the delivery person doing anything other than dropping the goods at the door. There shouldn't be any interaction with the delivery person. That's just common sense.

    That would be great. In fairness to the supermarkets i think they're doing well. Was in lidl this evening. They were only letting one person per group in. So for example if a couple came to the door they only let one in. They were also limiting the amount of people in the building. Inside the door was a hand sanitiser and the aisles was a one way system. Checkouts had social distancing markers too. They're doing the best they can, fair play to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,870 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    We really need to increase the capacity of home deliveries from super markets.

    Can't see this happening quickly enough to make a difference...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Poorside


    We really need to increase the capacity of home deliveries from super markets. Most supermarkets seem to have about 12 deliveries a day. It needs to be more in the region of 80-100 each.

    Also we should drop the idea of the delivery person doing anything other than dropping the goods at the door. There shouldn't be any interaction with the delivery person. That's just common sense.

    So every supermarket needs to find and train 6/7 new drivers and get the same amount of vans on the road, that's hardly feasible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,430 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    That would be great. In fairness to the supermarkets i think they're doing well. Was in lidl this evening. They were only letting one person per group in. So for example if a couple came to the door they only let one in. They were also limiting the amount of people in the building. Inside the door was a hand sanitiser and the aisles was a one way system. Checkouts had social distancing markers too. They're doing the best they can, fair play to them.

    My friend got an order from Tesco today and the delivery guy said that they are up the walls cos they serve Cork as well as part of Limerick and Waterford too and they only have 7 delivery trucks. I suppose they didn’t have near the demand for home delivery until now...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Barrel of Egyptian oil down to $10. Don't know if at similar API to West Texas or Brent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭forgodssake


    My biggest fear is that people will see the numbers being reported as being low and will become complacent . Please everyone stay safe and adhere to what will save so many lives x


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,694 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    I don't understand why my local Aldi closed 2 hours before they usually do. Surely it's better to stay open as long as possible to increase social distancing. Went down at 20:05 to find they must have shut at 8. Now I'm going to have to tomorrow when I could have gone when it was less crowded in the late evening.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    I am correct, it is you who hasn’t a breeze.

    The numbers are clearly cumulative how else are they giving percentages if they total number who need hospitalisation and then giving the percentage of that who needed icu and that’s 84 as of today.

    84 is the total number since day 1 who have passed though ICU up to Saturday night simple as that.

    You like most reporters etc are either not understanding or purposely misrepresenting the figures.

    And you are still posting.

    Oh they are cumulative, infact the numbers have been accumulating, since day 1. They are live beds taken up at any one time. And they don't turn around quickly. Right now its 84 being cared for. It is the one figure that concentrates the mind, because when we breach the ICU capacity we are in trouble, the system is overwhelmed and there will be decisions about who gets critical care.

    And I quoted the numbers to you and how they have accumulated. They went up as high as 88 yesterday. 88 people in ICU being treated for a critical condition. Then they went down to 84. Why was that ? 10 people died, and more were admitted to ICU.

    I'm not explaining it to you again, because if you didn't get it the 5th time I explained it you, you should go back and study very basic maths. I suggest primary school level.

    Hospitalisation ? You see there's another can of worms you don't understand either.

    When people are hospitalised for Covid19, it was done for observation and isolation in mild cases. Some of these may have deteriorated and then ended up in ICU. However, there are also patients who haven't even been tested showing up in a bad day having followed the governments advice to self isolate and contact a GP if showing symptoms to get a test. Some have waited so long, the test became irrelevant and are now presenting in a bad way directly at ICU's, because they cannot breathe.

    That's why the ICU numbers shot up from 17 to 47 almost tripled between 20th and 24th March.

    YOU ARE W R O N G.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    john_doe. wrote: »
    How do you know kids will be okay?
    There is still risk there.
    If there is more than one nurse after dying , it's seriously troubling. It's crap time while most complain about being stuck inside , lot more dealing with harder problems.

    Look I am a logical person, it's how I think. I only work on facts. Sometimes that goes against me because it makes me seem cold. But I do worry if I feel it's worth worrying about. Kids really dont fair out badly with this. I've read the information and analysed it. Yeah sure there is always risk but its negligible. I would be more concerned about her, a lot of healthcare workers have come down badly with this, research isn't extensive but it seems that It could be because they are exposed to higher viral loads for extended period of time. But at the end of the day we know the risks but this thing is going to be around for a while. I'm not willing to separate myself from her long term so we just accept that it is what it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,148 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Thanks. I was looking for the size of social distancing group allowed for people from different residents. Initially it was 4 with each 2 metres apart.

    Now 2 people or zero person?

    Guidelines are one person out (with children if you have them out for exercise only) and stay 2 meters apart from anyone else

    Saying that there was a a family with 3 kids in my local Tesco earlier - dunno why supermarkets are still letting kids in to the store when it's obvious there is no need for both mammy and daddy to be doing the shopping. (won't mention their ethnicity)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    My biggest fear is that people will see the numbers being reported as being low and will become complacent . Please everyone stay safe and adhere to what will save so many lives x

    Professor on Claire Byrne said not only does it affect the lungs, it also affect other vital organs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Was told today of an old lady who's NCT was out and they were going to seize the car off her. She broke down crying as she was going to care for her elderly sister.

    Now I have been very Impressed by the Gardai and other public servants in their approach to all this . I really hope they use common sense and do not lose goodwill and the respect of the normal people who are affected in all of this.

    This is happening in the UK. The message from our new Commissioner about letters from employers & 2 forms of id was over the top

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-police-turning-parts-of-uk-into-dystopia-after-prosecuting-people-driving-due-to-boredom-and-shoppers-11965903


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    AllForIt wrote: »
    I don't understand why my local Aldi closed 2 hours before they usually do. Surely it's better to stay open as long as possible to increase social distancing. Went down at 20:05 to find they must have shut at 8. Now I'm going to have to tomorrow when I could have gone when it was less crowded in the late evening.

    You could have just checked the opening times beforehand. I think they are closing earlier so as to allow extra time for the staff to ensure the stores are stocked and cleaned. Talking to the cashier in Lidl this evening and he said it's been incredibly busy.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    New York State has a population of 19.5 million, about 4 times the size of Ireland. The only places with more confirmed cases than NY are Italy, Spain, China and the US. Growth rate in the those other countries are slowing, but NY is still growing fast.

    If you scale to the population of Ireland. You'd have 16,000 cases and adding 1,455 per day. I.e. they're about 5 times worse off than Ireland in case numbers. Number of deaths they're actually fairly similar right now per capita.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    AllForIt wrote: »
    I don't understand why my local Aldi closed 2 hours before they usually do. Surely it's better to stay open as long as possible to increase social distancing. Went down at 20:05 to find they must have shut at 8. Now I'm going to have to tomorrow when I could have gone when it was less crowded in the late evening.

    Jesus you poor thing.

    Real, human tragedy like this often gets lost in the shuffle. We're all here for you. Stay strong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Poorside wrote: »
    So every supermarket needs to find and train 6/7 new drivers and get the same amount of vans on the road, that's hardly feasible

    No that bit is the easy bit.

    There's plenty of van drivers and vans out of work at the moment. It is other logistics that I imagine might be more difficult.

    Seeing that supermarkets and hospitals are the only major centers of congregation at the moment, this would be quite beneficial though.
    D.Q wrote: »
    Jesus you poor thing.

    Real, human tragedy like this often gets lost in the shuffle. We're all here for you. Stay strong.

    Eh. I'd say that he's not really complaining about the inconvenience but rather the prospect of potentially putting himself in harm's way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Guidelines are one person out (with children if you have them out for exercise only) and stay 2 meters apart from anyone else

    Saying that there was a a family with 3 kids in my local Tesco earlier - dunno why supermarkets are still letting kids in to the store when it's obvious there is no need for both mammy and daddy to be doing the shopping. (won't mention their ethnicity)

    Thanks. Sorry I probably phrase my question wrong.

    Can you meet others outside at social distancing for a chat? It was initially 4 people. Is it less now?


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