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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Paddy Cosgrave seems to be implying that the HSE is suppressing this information. Can't see what they would have to gain by doing so.

    Surely it would come out if nurses are dead like that? If this lad is making it up it is truely mad stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,748 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Sad intro on Clair Byrne


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    Jesus I hate Paddy Cosgrave. Attention seeking moron spreading lie to get likes. Vermin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Looks like Claire Byrne's still in the shed tonight.
    owlbethere wrote: »
    Will Friday nights late late show be live from Ryan's shed?

    Should Claire be out of isolation / quarantine now like Tubs and Prince Charles

    Is it 14 days self isolation and then 14 days or 4 days quarantine if positive for Covid19


  • Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Achasanai wrote: »
    The problem is that nobody knows where he's got the figure of four nurses dead from COVID19.


    Well, I have an idea, that he's getting them out of his arse, but it's all conjecture.

    Id hazard a guess he has someone close on the national panel,whoz feeding him said info


    The HSE are notorious for silencing internal critism/stunting people who speak out careers.....obvious solution here is for someone to clarify the info



    This shouldnt be taken as approval of his tweets,/actions

    Just think demanding he be silenced and excluded seems irrational,and as such only serves to shut down any discussion??

    Not much point in having a discussion forum,which deosnt allow opposing views imo


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,748 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Should Claire be out of isolation / quarantine now like Tubs and Prince Charles

    Is it 14 days self isolation and then 14 days or 4 days quarantine if positive for Covid19

    IIRC 14 days from symptoms onset or if you have a fever 7 days after the fever breaks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 toneygecko


    So I was stopped at a checkpoint down the road from work there today on my way home. I had a letter ready to go from work (essential sector) and ID in my wallet and was watching the guard, he put his big lámh up for me to stop, he eyeballed my tax/insurance and just waved me on. Like are they not even going to challenge people??!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Mrfacts


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    We already have a suicide problem in Ireland, I imagine this is gonna increase a lot now that everyone is locked inside.


    Well not being able to go to the pub is not the end of the world. We just learned tonight that a local pub was at the centre of the Covid 19 spread, we were all contacted from The Red Cove Inn in Ave De Rennes Mahon Cork to be tested for Covid 19 and the place is getting a deep cleaning. We are on the right track, that we are able to find and isolate where the spreads are coming from. A semi lock down is not bad at all, be grateful you are not in a different country with tougher regimes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭sterz


    Just think demanding he be silenced and excluded seems irrational,and as such only serves to shut down any discussion??

    Well some have asked for his sources and one particular detailed tweet asking where he got his info from was removed straightaway.

    That's shutting down discussion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,756 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Id hazard a guess he has someone close on the national panel,whoz feeding him said info


    The HSE are notorious for silencing internal critism/stunting people who speak out careers.....obvious solution here is for someone to clarify the info



    This shouldnt be taken as approval of his tweets,/actions

    Just think demanding he be silenced and excluded seems irrational,and as such only serves to shut down any discussion??

    Not much point in having a discussion forum,which deosnt allow opposing views imo

    He needs to provide a source or some evidence to back up his claims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭NaiveMelodies


    fritzelly wrote: »
    IIRC 14 days from symptoms onset or if you have a fever 7 days after the fever breaks

    5 days after Fever imo. Which is tomorrow for me :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,450 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    toneygecko wrote: »
    So I was stopped at a checkpoint down the road from work there today on my way home. I had a letter ready to go from work (essential sector) and ID in my wallet and was watching the guard, he put his big lámh up for me to stop, he eyeballed my tax/insurance and just waved me on. Like are they not even going to challenge people??!!

    Was told today of an old lady who's NCT was out and they were going to seize the car off her. She broke down crying as she was going to care for her elderly sister.

    Now I have been very Impressed by the Gardai and other public servants in their approach to all this . I really hope they use common sense and do not lose goodwill and the respect of the normal people who are affected in all of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,173 ✭✭✭✭kmart6


    He backtracked on something he had said and obviously got a letter threatening legal action. The he came out with a fawning apology and stated how great O'Brien was for his generous donations.
    Ah alright, don't wanna trawl through his timeline.


  • Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This thread is about the coronavirus, not Paddy Cosgrave's little tantrum against the government.

    Noone said otherwise??

    Just think,if said tweet is true,those demandin it be shut down/not discussed are doing a disservice


    But sure lookit,cant see any point in re-iterating my view anymore than i have,but seems twitter isnt only echo chamber about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,503 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Achasanai wrote: »
    The problem is that nobody knows where he's got the figure of four nurses dead from COVID19.


    Well, I have an idea, that he's getting them out of his arse, but it's all conjecture.

    He's unreal. Stating that without evidence to back it up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,756 ✭✭✭tigger123


    Noone said otherwise??

    Just think,if said tweet is true,those demandin it be shut down/not discussed are doing a disservice


    But sure lookit,cant see any point in re-iterating my view anymore than i have,but seems twitter isnt only echo chamber about

    By the same logic I should tweet that 8 Doctors died from Corona virus, and the Government are covering it up.

    No one should ask that I back it up. Stop censoring me.


  • Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    sterz wrote: »
    Well some have asked for his sources and one particular detailed tweet asking where he got his info from was removed straightaway.

    That's shutting down discussion.

    He's a gowl tbf like,

    But i cant see how he can post x,without some info to back it up....i hope it will be cleared at press conference tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Achasanai wrote: »
    I have a friend with the condition, and has it fairly mild (no serious flare-ups in years) and has been on immune-suppressants since diagnosis. I just assumed they all were, but maybe there are even milder cases which don't require drug therapies.
    I have it myself, so was looking at the reprecussions of it.
    After a flare up, you go onto steroids to clear it up and if it's a mild case then no more treatment required. But you can flare up again in the future. I think if you keep flaring up, then it's onto the medication, some of which are immune supressants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,244 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    Was told today of an old lady who's NCT was out and they were going to seize the car off her. She broke down crying as she was going to care for her elderly sister.

    Now I have been very Impressed by the Gardai and other public servants in their approach to all this . I really hope they use common sense and do not lose goodwill and the respect of the normal people who are affected in all of this.

    I'd seriously doubt this. Unless the NCT has been out for yonks they wouldn't be doing this, especially with the fact you can't even get a test or a full test now.


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  • Posts: 6,246 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tigger123 wrote: »
    By the same logic I should tweet that 8 Doctors died from Corona virus, and the Government are covering it up.

    No one should ask that I back it up. Stop censoring me.

    Noone said he shouldnt back up his figures


    That is a classic strawman misrepresemtation of what i said....i havnt posted anything close to that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭RiseAbove4


    So let’s look at the maths of it all;

    - It has an R0 of roughly 2 (for every person that has it, they pass it onto two)

    - it’s estimated at least 60-70% of us will get this

    - 1 in 5 people in Ireland who’ve had it so far have been hospitalised


    Somebody please tell me if some positivity amongst those numbers before I have my first drink in three years

    Because I’m failing to see it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Arghus wrote: »
    One in four cases require hospitalisation? Yikes that's a bit scary. Is there anything skewing that figure.
    The first 80ish cases were admitted to hospital regardless of condition, for quarantine. It's only a small number of the total cases now though, so doesn't skew the figures as much now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 toneygecko


    Claire loves her sex dungeon, some say she'll never leave.

    Just off camera

    Mercy-31.jpg

    LOL, the resemblance is kind of striking in that portrait


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,978 ✭✭✭Heighway61


    Turtwig wrote: »
    She still has to self isolate. Including from you. Test isn't required for that.
    She has been told by her manager that she and the other two staff are to continue working.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    RiseAbove4 wrote: »

    - 1 in 5 people in Ireland who’ve had it so far have been hospitalised

    -1 in 5 people who had a confirmed positive test has been hospitalised, many more have it with no symptoms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,093 ✭✭✭growleaves




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,702 ✭✭✭kyote00


    My 2c....

    "so far" --> I think unless we test everyone in the country then its hard to say whether 1/5 will hold. We have no real idea how many people have had (and recovered) and are not counted

    - 1 in 5 people in Ireland who’ve had it so far have been hospitalised



    RiseAbove4 wrote: »
    So let’s look at the maths of it all;

    - It has an R0 of roughly 2 (for every person that has it, they pass it onto two)

    - it’s estimated at least 60-70% of us will get this

    - 1 in 5 people in Ireland who’ve had it so far have been hospitalised


    Somebody please tell me if some positivity amongst those numbers before I have my first drink in three years

    Because I’m failing to see it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,093 ✭✭✭growleaves


    1 in 5 people who had a confirmed positive test has been hospitalised, many more have it with no symptoms

    I'm beginning to think people are going to lose money at the bookies if the death rate is revised downwards.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    If you ground all flights - that means no supplies getting into the country, it means no Irish abroad getting home - no Irish doctors/nurses able to return home - your ok with all these thought yea?

    By banning all public transport - you stop essential workers from getting to work who don't drive - again are you ok with this? I'm not - I want them to get to work to serve our country.

    Nursing home staff in full hazmats - is this to scare the life out of the residents - it is their home - it's a time when their families and friends can't visit them, and now you want them to think they are in some sci-fi film. Think about this - The sfaff themselves don't want this. As someone who has a loved one in a nursing home and who is paying for it - I don't my loved one thinking they are in a sci-fi movie and feeling scared.

    Random temp checks on the street - who do you propose is going to carry out these random checks? If you have a temp - there is nothing wrong with going for a walk while in isolation.

    You want to break GDPR and share medical history with the Garda - and what happens if this information become public, because Garda Paul told his wife, or put in Whatapp and gets round the neighbour - again are you ok with this?

    There are people that won't pay TV licence - they aren't going to pay a fine.

    You see you name 5/6 ideas which all can be easily challenged and are not practical.

    FFS, you know well I meant ground passenger flights not cargo flights. I've said that numerous times on here if you'd pay attention. I've also said nurses and doctors should be brought home in a controlled manner. They shouldnt be put on a plane with potentially infected covid passengers from london for example.

    Putting nurses and doctors on public transport to get infected? Smart move alright.

    Scare the life out of nursing home patients? You think dying of covid19 is a better option for them?

    You want someone with Covid 19 to spread it because you're afraid of GDPR? You're joking right?

    Care to post your 5 now?

    Sounds to me like you've no ideas yourself, only in reacting to what others say.


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