CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

frillyleaf wrote: »

It completely makes sense for EVERYONE to wear masks as this reduces the chances of transmission in people who do not have symptoms. Everyone in South Korea wears a mask. We just don’t have enough for everyone to use so I would imagine they are being kept for healthcare workers as they are more vulnerable to being exposed. Wearing masks reduces the risk of you infecting others and makes sense if we had the resources to do this

You can still tell people to make their own. Your argument is invalid.

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

How come Prince Charles , or Boris, or Tom Hanks didn't end up dead. All older, all unfit .

The Italian statistics show that only 2.1 % of all people who have died from Covid-19 have no underlying conditions. All age groups.

Briefing today at 5.45pm. Modelling included.

See Richard Chambers or Fergal Bowers Twitter page.

froog wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0330/1127300-coronavirus-analysis-ireland-cases/

seems like half our "clusters" are in either hospitals or nursing homes.

The clusters in nursing homes has exploded in the past week - seeing as they have been isolated for over 3 weeks infected staff must be considered the source of the outbreaks.

Health Minister says everything cannot go ‘back to normal’ after Easter Sunday

According to Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC) data, Covid-19 clusters were reported in three residential settings and 17 nursing homes,

The nursing home clusters account for 22% of the total number of clusters outbreaks in the Republic.

CEO of Nursing Homes Ireland Tadgh Daly told RTE radio representatives from the nursing home sector he will meet Mr Harris on Monday afternoon.

Mr Daly said: “We’re somewhat concerned the HSE is still recruiting people from our sector and one of our asks of the Minister today will be to desist recruiting people who are already working on the frontline.

It's like a plot line in a disaster movie.

statesaver wrote: »

https://twitter.com/NovicLil/status/1244557756683759617

So the message appears to be in that picture that neither doctors or police are practising social distancing!!
Disgraceful

Ficheall wrote: »

Just like the fall on the 15th, 17th, 21st and 23rd signalled that we had beaten this thing.. :rolleyes:



Also, didn't yesterday only have 23 hours?

No question certain countries like Spain, Italy and Switzerland are levelling off and we are beginning to see falls in new infections.

Germany, France and UK are still rising exponentially so it's unknown how that will play into figures going forward.

Pdoghue wrote: »

The Italian statistics show that only 2.1 % of all people who have died from Covid-19 have no underlying conditions. All age groups.

Just proves that the whole virus scare is a hoax.
US surpassed China because they count deaths differently. In China if you already had damaged lungs and you die after contracting the virus it's not counted as a COVID-19 death. If you're fat and you smoke at 70 it's obvious you shouldn't blame the flu but them drinking Coke syrup and eating hamburgers all day.
Every year the flu 'kills' lots of old people. The only thing different now is the fast spread so instead of the dying a year from now they will die this month.

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

I disagree. Masks are everywhere in china now because they have beaten the virus so they have so much stock. When the virus hit China so many factories started to produce PPE and now that the virus is ended in China they are selling this equipment internationally.

So many of my friends on wechat are selling masks, medical suits and even ventilators in bulk.

Available to the Chinese general public and from questionable sellers on Taobao yes.

But there certainly isn’t wide availability for international governments in large quantities and from trusted/certified sources (Spain tried to use back channels to procure supplies from China and had bad surprises).

Ordering a few masks for you online from a random Chinese guy who got them from his local convenience store isn’t the same as our government finding trusted suppliers who can deliver let’s say 100 million of masks to ireland in the next 2 or 3 weeks (this is what we’d need if we wanted enough for our heavily exposed frontline workers who are consuming huge quantities and for everyone to wear one when they leave their home).

The French government recently mentioned they have ordered 1 billion masks mostly from Chinese suppliers, but they are only able to take delivery of small fraction of this in the short term.

Chinese production has ramped up massively though and agree availability will improve. But realistically international supply is still constrained (China and other Asians countries have enough because they logically keep their own production for their own use first).

Pdoghue wrote: »

The Italian statistics show that only 2.1 % of all people who have died from Covid-19 have no underlying conditions. All age groups.

2.1% of 7,000,000,000 people on the planet is 147,000,000 people with no underlying conditions dead only...... phew, was starting to get worried there for a minute.

Pdoghue wrote: »

The Italian statistics show that only 2.1 % of all people who have died from Covid-19 have no underlying conditions. All age groups.

That's not a bad statistic. 2% of the 1-3% of the people that did if the disease is very low.

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

How come Prince Charles , or Boris, or Tom Hanks didn't end up dead. All older, all unfit .

Being old, unfit, with underlying conditions doesn't mean you automatically get very sick or die. It just means you have more of a risk.

Downlinz wrote: »

This is obviously nonsense but what exactly do the conspiracy folk think is happening here, who do they think is benefiting from everyone staying at home and a population in fear that seemingly every government in the world is collaborating in?

I will throw this into the mix,

If any government wanted to ever carry out something covertly, now is a good time for them to do it with so many people being off the streets and no one would really bat an eyelid now if they seen a large convoy of military trucks trundle down their local street.

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

We are a small country, the government could easily get 1 or 2 masks for each household. Go out to the shop once a week for shopping and use the mask.

In many countries around Europe people make masks at homes these days. They even provide these to local healthcare workers (not surgeons obviously). I guess not much tailoring/sewing skills left in Ireland. All computer gigs now so nobody able to make the masks.

robinph wrote: »

Cleaning the roads was a couple of months ago when less was known about how it spread. Once you don't lick the soles of your shoes on returning home after walking through a bucket of someone else's flegm and spit then you should be OK.

Unlikely an adult would do that.

But for those with children, a crawling child might lick their hands after crawling on the floor.

Do you really want to risk CV getting into your house, whether its on the soles of your shoes or otherwise?

I agree about the Chinese over-reaction, but, its a novel virus, we are still learning about it. It might be harmless on the ground, it might not be. The ground is a surface as well after all. Personally I'm leaving nothing to chance. Each to their own.