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Dr Hulsey WTC7 findings for people who not aware of this new study.

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  • #1322
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    First of all, me putting an i there instead of l was an honest mistake. 

    You are a charlatan and a spoofer. You used ib maybe 15 times today and each and every single time you were called on it, it was pointed out that you were wrong. You denied it down to the ground, until you were blue in the face. You even started mocking others for not knowing it.

    Finally, faced with the glaring reality of it all, you concede that you are wrong, but claim it is an honest mistake. I normally have huge respect for those who admit they are wrong on the Internet, Lord knows it doesn't happen often enough, but in this instance there is no possibility of you making that mistake so many times and being corrected at every turn, without it being deliberate. There's just no way.


  • #1323
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    How could I change the equation in a report I did not write?

    You said you clarified your opinion after denying pound was a unit of force. No you did not.

    All you said after : The term is correctly written as 552lbs/in. (Though, it should even more correctly be written as 552lbf/in,


  • #1324
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You are a charlatan and a spoofer. You used ib maybe 15 times today and each and every single time you were called on it, it was pointed out that you were wrong. You denied it down to the ground, until you were blue in the face. You even started mocking others for not knowing it.

    Finally, faced with the glaring reality of it all, you concede that you are wrong, but claim it is an honest mistake. I normally have huge respect for those who admit they are wrong on the Internet, Lord knows it doesn't happen often enough, but in this instance there is no possibility of you making that mistake so many times and being corrected at every turn, without it being deliberate. There's just no way.

    Kingmob was denying pound was a unit of force in multiply posts thats worse then forgetting to touch the right letter on the keyboard.,


  • #1325
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    You said you clarified your opinion after denying pound was a unit of force. No you did not.

    All you said after : The term is correctly written as 552lbs/in. (Though, it should even more correctly be written as 552lbf/in,
    Cheerful, what's the rest of that sentence? Why did you not copy it in full?


  • #1326
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    Cheerful, what's the rest of that sentence? Why did you not copy it in full?

    You just said you clarified your position in the same post. Admit you lied.

    This what you said. I must have reading problems if you meant something else?
    Further, lbs or pounds is not a unit of force,


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  • #1327
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    forgetting to touch the right letter on the keyboard.,
    Multiple times and consistently, then mocking me for pointing out that was incorrect and then disagreeing with the links you posted to back yourself up, then trying to pretend I had somehow edited your posts then accusing me of both being a robot and a government agent.

    Describing it as "forgetting to touch the right key" is very dishonest.


  • #1328
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    You just said you clarified your position in the same post. Admit you lied.

    This what you said. I must have reading problems if you meant something else?
    Further, lbs or pounds is not a unit of force,
    Please copy and that same sentence in full and don't edit anything out this time.


  • #1329
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    Multiple times and consistently, then mocking me for pointing out that was incorrect and then disagreeing with the links you posted to back yourself up, then trying to pretend I had somehow edited your posts then accusing me of both being a robot and a government agent.

    Describing it as "forgetting to touch the right key" is very dishonest.

    You not admit not knowing what a pound symbol is and failing to not understand pound was a unit of force. I already admitted i used the wrong letter for l..

    How would i know the symbol was a L if i didn't understand it? Remember you trick question what that letter in Red!


  • #1330
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    You not admit not knowing what a pound symbol is and failing to not understand pound was a unit of force. I already admitted i used the wrong letter for l..
    But I do know what pounds are and what it's symbol is. I kept correcting you.
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    How would i know the symbol was a L if i didn't understand it?
    But you didn't know it was an l.
    You were insisting that it was an i and were telling me I was wrong when I corrected you.
    You didn't understand it. You don't understand basic math or physics. And now we have cause to doubt your ability to tell letters apart.


  • #1331
    cuppa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭cuppa


    Here it is try reading the whole paragraph or get someone who understands words and letters to read it for you.

    kingmob wrote this.....in post #1264

    "The figure is not 552ib.
    "ib" is not a term used in physics. You are mistakenly writing this instead of lbs (i.e. lower case L) which is the symbol for pounds.
    Further, lbs or pounds is not a unit of force, it is a unit of weight. You are also leaving off the "per inch" or "/in" part of the term, which changes it's meaning in physics. The term is correctly written as 552lbs/in. (Though, it should even more correctly be written as 552lbf/in, as "lbf" differentiates this part of the term as "pounds of force" rather than weight. But this is an issue of the paper.)
    (Double, double pedantic, it should be written in the SI units...)

    Further still, the figure given is not a force at all. It is a measure of stiffness."


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  • #1332
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Remember you trick question what that letter in Red!
    Lol how was it a trick question?


  • #1333
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    cuppa wrote: »
    Here it is try reading the whole paragraph or get someone who understands words and letters to read it for you.

    kingmob wrote this.....

    "The figure is not 552ib.
    "ib" is not a term used in physics. You are mistakenly writing this instead of lbs (i.e. lower case L) which is the symbol for pounds.
    Further, lbs or pounds is not a unit of force, it is a unit of weight. You are also leaving off the "per inch" or "/in" part of the term, which changes it's meaning in physics. The term is correctly written as 552lbs/in. (Though, it should even more correctly be written as 552lbf/in, as "lbf" differentiates this part of the term as "pounds of force" rather than weight. But this is an issue of the paper.)
    (Double, double pedantic, it should be written in the SI units...)

    Further still, the figure given is not a force at all. It is a measure of stiffness."

    Can you read?
    Further, lbs or pounds is not a unit of force: false.
    Plus he changed the equation. He saying Hulsey should have written it as 552lbf/in for it to be more accurate.
    This what Hulsey wrote after the equation. Read the bottom line!

    507154.png


  • #1334
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Can you read?
    Further, lbs or pounds is not a unit of force: false.
    Plus he changed the equation. He saying Hulsey should have written it as 552Ibf/in for it to be more accurate.
    This what Hulsey wrote after the equation. Read the bottom line!

    507154.png
    Why did I say it should be written as 552lbf/in? Why did I say it was more accurate?

    Why did you edit that part out when you quoted?
    Why did you edit it out twice now?


  • #1335
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    Why did I say it should be written as 552lbf/in? Why did I say it was more accurate?

    Why did you edit that part out when you quoted?
    Why did you edit it out twice now?

    Read cuppa post, he quoted your full post. Where you claim you clarified your position and said i was horrible for not showing the full quote.


  • #1336
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Read cuppa post, he quoted your full post. Where you claim you clarified your position and said i was horrible for not showing the full quote.
    Yes. So please answer those questions.

    Why did I say it should be written as 552lbf/in? Why did I say it was more accurate?

    Why did you edit that part out when you quoted?
    Why did you edit it out twice now?


  • #1337
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes. So please answer those questions.

    Why did I say it should be written as 552lbf/in? Why did I say it was more accurate?

    Why did you edit that part out when you quoted?
    Why did you edit it out twice now?

    Though, it should even more correctly be written as 552lbf/in


  • #1338
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Though, it should even more correctly be written as 552lbf/in

    And that is only part of the sentence. Please quote the entire sentence.

    This is the 3rd time you've edited it out, so you are doing it deliberately. We all know why.


  • #1339
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    And that is only part of the sentence. Please quote the entire sentence.

    This is the 3rd time you've edited it out, so you are doing it deliberately. We all know why.

    Did you miss the sentence under the equation where Hulsey said was 61,900 lb. You had a problem with that too and said should be lbs. I was wrong for mixing the symbol!

    Cuppa is backing you up. How am I editing what you wrote? He quoted your post.


  • #1340
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    I was wrong for mixing the symbol!.
    Yes. Because you kept claiming it was ib even after you were corrected and you knew it was wrong.
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Cuppa is backing you up. How am I editing what you wrote? He quoted your post.
    Because you keep cutting off the rest of the sentence.
    We all know why.


  • #1341
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes. Because you kept claiming it was ib even after you were corrected and you knew it was wrong.

    Because you keep cutting off the rest of the sentence.
    We all know why.

    This is stiffness calculation for the falling girder assembly (girders) and beam at column 79 and 44.. This what Mick posted on his forum.

    507156.png

    They're nothing else in that sentence that clarifies your position. You denied pound was a unit of force. Then moved on to a different point.

    I not misquoting you
    Further, lbs or pounds is not a unit of force,

    Pound is a unit of mass or force. You tried to just claim it was a unit of weight!


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  • #1342
    tdf7187
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    This is stiffness calculation for the falling girder assembly (girders) and beam at column 79 and 44.. This what Mick posted on his forum.

    507156.png

    They're nothing else in that sentence that clarifies your position. You denied pound was a unit of force. Then moved on to a different point.

    I not misquoting you
    Further, lbs or pounds is not a unit of force,

    Pound is a unit of mass or force. You tried to just claim it was a unit of weight!

    What utter gibberish.


  • #1343
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    They're nothing else in that sentence that clarifies your position. You denied pound was a unit of force. Then moved on to a different point.

    I not misquoting you
    But you are misquoting me. You have deliberately cut of the end of a sentence to ignore what it says.
    Please quote the sentence in full.
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Pound is a unit of mass or force. You tried to just claim it was a unit of weight!
    Wait are you now saying that pounds aren't a measure of weight?


  • #1344
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    But you are misquoting me. You have deliberately cut of the end of a sentence to ignore what it says.
    Please quote the sentence in full.


    Wait are you now saying that pounds aren't a measure of weight?

    Post the full sentence then? You know you ****ed up here and now trying to get out of it by deflecting.


  • #1345
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Post the full sentence then? You know you ****ed up here and now trying to get out of it by deflecting.
    I'm not deflecting. I'm addressing it directly.
    You have done nothing but deflect from your own lack of knowledge.
    It's very cute when you mirror things said to you.

    Please post the full sentence without editing it.
    Please explain why you keep editing out that part of the sentence.
    We all know the reason you keep editing it and leaving it out and refusing to acknowledge it is because it refutes your silly accusation.

    And again are you now claiming that pounds isn't a measure of weight?
    Pound is a unit of mass or force. You tried to just claim it was a unit of weight!


  • #1346
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    I'm not deflecting. I'm addressing it directly.
    You have done nothing but deflect from your own lack of knowledge.
    It's very cute when you mirror things said to you.

    Please post the full sentence without editing it.
    Please explain why you keep editing out that part of the sentence.
    We all know the reason you keep editing it and leaving it out and refusing to acknowledge it is because it refutes your silly accusation.

    And again are you now claiming that pounds isn't a measure of weight?

    Screenshot, underlined it. Awhile ago you dismissed me when i said you had problem with the paper.

    507165.png


  • #1347
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Screenshot, underlined it. Awhile ago you dismissed me when i said you had problem with the paper.

    507165.png
    Well no, last time you screenshoted it you cut off the end of the sentence.
    You don't need to screenshot it either. You can just quote it.

    Now why did I say it was more accurate to say "lbf"?
    What was the reason I gave in that quote?


  • #1348
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    Well no, last time you screenshoted it you cut off the end of the sentence.
    You don't need to screenshot it either. You can just quote it.

    Now why did I say it was more accurate to say "lbf"?
    What was the reason I gave in that quote?

    You argued pound was not a unit of force. So how would know what lbf is and when it should be used?

    Hulsey calculation is not accurate then?

    Why does he say 552lbs/inch?

    Kingmob this is the Hulsey equation.
    507166.png


  • #1349
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    You argued pound was not a unit of force. So how would know what lbf is and when it should be used?
    Sorry that's not an answer to the question I asked you. You're deflecting.

    Why did I say lbf was more accurate?
    Please quote me exactly.


  • #1350
    cuppa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭cuppa


    I was posting the whole quote so it could be taking in full , not just picking parts of it and putting them together to justify a personal stance on the subject.


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  • #1351
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,012 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    tdf7187 wrote: »
    What utter gibberish.

    This is the modus operandi of 9/11 truthers

    They drag everything down into absurdly obtuse technical details, go round and round in circles and then browbeat anyone bothered to debate it with pure stamina

    Ergo the whole thing was a massive inside job

    “The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it.” ― Alberto Brandolini


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