So what are the positives surrounding the Covid19 coronavirus?

whisky_galore wrote: »

Childcare workers and teachers getting more appreciation for what they do, now parents are finding out just how insufferable their little dears are!

Oh my god yes! To constantly be told that because I work in childcare, I don't have a "proper" education and I dont have a "proper" job is so frustrating... Yet I have spoken to a few friends who are a week into homeschooling their kids... All i can do is laugh! Ha

CaoinDory wrote: »

My lack of faith in God has nothing to do with mainstream media and more to to with educational common sense.

Dont come on shaming others into your faith. Not fair.

its nothing to do about fairness, its just a load of nonsense, no wonder the catholic church is falling. its completely okay to have a faith and not have a faith, best of luck to you if you do, but preaching to people wont work, it doesnt work anymore, we ve educated ourselves, learned a lot about ourselves, theres no need for all this shaming people

one massive positive that think many missed no more door to door sales calls etc crap should be banned in general in this country such medieval practice to get business donations.


cark parks half empty so another nice benefit.


rest is up in the air for time being, as though i hate all the doom gloomers that wish this would escalate even more, as economy will suffer greatly amount of taxes that will need to be recouped etc will put massive strain on many, but such times also present opportunities for those that have no debts and some savings. overall its hard to tell how bad it will be elswhere on major economies but economical struggle will be felt for many years to come.


as for what little benefits we get now will be massive price to pay down the road for everyone.


as we dont feel it much here but countries like Spain Portugal who make most wages during summers from tourism will dvelve into deep economical dissaster for good few years as unemployment will sky rocket over the meddtererian areas.

bbbbb wrote: »

with barbers closed, mullets will come back into fashion!

Eric Cartman wrote: »

the beef industry is going to need a serious bailout after this, definitely one to be protected as its a treasured industry of our isle.

Maybe grants to diversify would be better.

Here's a positive I believe with regards to numbers of infections and death rate.



The best source seems to be the cruise ship and I'm not sure why it's not of more focus, it's nearly like an experiment to see how it could spread in a society.

Patient zero was on board for approx 5 days and was displaying symptoms (coughing) without knowing what it was.

The cruise ship had over 3,700 on board.

19% of the passangers contracted the virus, despite sharing the same pools, sauna, restaurants, onboard entertainment centres, lifts along with buses to and from attractions, as patient zero.

On top of this, the cruise has an air conditioning system which circulates air throughout the ship.

At the rate of infection this virus carries it's fair to say at least 80% of the ship would have been exposed to the virus either through the air or on surfaces (lift buttons, ladles and cutlery in the buffets, hand railings etc.) It is said that the virus lasted on such surfaces on the ship for 17 days.

There were 8 deaths (0.21%) despite the fact that the average age was 62 and everyone was in a very confined space.

This is a fair and reasonable example of how the virus spreads within a community.

It's likely that a few million Italians have the virus and don't even know it, just like on the cruise ship.

It doesn't change anything...we still need to contain it as we can't let our health care system get over stretched or else there'll be many needless deaths. But it does point to the reality the death rate isn't at 2-3 or even 4%.

jamesf85 wrote: »

Here's a positive I believe with regards to numbers of infections and death rate.

This is a great summary, thanks for that!

jamesf85 wrote: »

Here's a positive I believe with regards to numbers of infections and death rate.



The best source seems to be the cruise ship and I'm not sure why it's not of more focus, it's nearly like an experiment to see how it could spread in a society.

Patient zero was on board for approx 5 days and was displaying symptoms (coughing) without knowing what it was.

The cruise ship had over 3,700 on board.

19% of the passangers contracted the virus, despite sharing the same pools, sauna, restaurants, onboard entertainment centres, lifts along with buses to and from attractions, as patient zero.

On top of this, the cruise has an air conditioning system which circulates air throughout the ship.

At the rate of infection this virus carries it's fair to say at least 80% of the ship would have been exposed to the virus either through the air or on surfaces (lift buttons, ladles and cutlery in the buffets, hand railings etc.) It is said that the virus lasted on such surfaces on the ship for 17 days.

There were 8 deaths (0.21%) despite the fact that the average age was 62 and everyone was in a very confined space.

This is a fair and reasonable example of how the virus spreads within a community.

It's likely that a few million Italians have the virus and don't even know it, just like on the cruise ship.

It doesn't change anything...we still need to contain it as we can't let our health care system get over stretched or else there'll be many needless deaths. But it does point to the reality the death rate isn't at 2-3 or even 4%.

Yep, our current death rate is 0.5%, but if you factor in 30% asymptomatic or unreported cases then the death rate goes down to 0.4%. This is case fatality rate btw, not deaths from covid19 Vs total population.

0.4% is still 4-8 time higher than seasonal flu and a lot more infective, however this is good news in general.