CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

rebeve · 22-03-2020 12:31PM

Event201 A global pandemic exercise was launched in late 2019 , and then we have Covid 19 .Anyone else find that strange .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoLw-Q8X174

Gynoid · 22-03-2020 12:32PM

TheChizler wrote: »

No, through contact of contaminated surfaces with your mouth/mucus membranes or breathing in infectious aerosol droplets from a cough or sneeze, which normally fall out of the air a few seconds after the cough or sneeze. If there's noone around you you won't get it from breathing it in.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/18/coronavirus-lives-for-hours-in-air-particles-and-days-on-surfaces-new-us-study-shows.html

Study shows virus detectable in aerosols for up to 3 hours.

otnomart · 22-03-2020 12:32PM

otnomart wrote: »

Sadly, there is a lot of the following going on in many people's heads right now.

"It won't happen to us because:
-we are have a younger population

-we have a heathier population
-we have a lower population density
-we flee the nest and don't live with our elders

-we respect the rules "

the list goes on and on

MipMap wrote: »

Actually these are all valid arguments

I disagree, I do not believe they are valid arguments; in my opinion they are just wishful thinking.

MipMap wrote: »

they are absolutely no excuse whatsoever for anyone taking the decision to risk someone else's life.

We need to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

Agreed.
Prepare for the worst include investing in the healthcare system so that there will be enough beds (both hospital and ICU beds) for all the patients who will need them.

jam_mac_jam · 22-03-2020 12:32PM

Bambi wrote: »

Honestly think there's a lot to this, Latin cultures expect a lot of close physical proximity and will disregard when told it's not allowed anymore.

How do you explain France then?

We need to stop kidding ourselves

petes · 22-03-2020 12:32PM

rebeve wrote: »

Event201 A global pandemic exercise was launched in late 2019 , and then we have Covid 19 .Anyone else find that strange .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoLw-Q8X174

No.

MipMap · 22-03-2020 12:33PM

voluntary wrote: »

If someone cough or sneezes in, the viruses fly 5 meters away. The formal 'stay 2 meters away' is not a guarantee, just a low risk assuming nobody sneezes in your directions

Like all the advise. It's a balance between what is possible and probability.
A 5 meter distance is better but totally impractical.

The advise re masks is the same - they don't protect you much but they do have some effect. The Chinese, Belgians, Italians and Spanish together with every health worker you come across don't wear them for nothing.

Martina1991 · 22-03-2020 12:33PM

wadacrack wrote:

Number of people in Ireland needed ICU more than doubled last night for COVID-19(13-29) . 40,000 waiting to be tested. Only 173 vacant ICU beds atm.

They're not all vacant. Many are occupied with non Covid19 cases.

Raconteuse · 22-03-2020 12:34PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Dublin is concerning though. Half the cases are here. Higher population density would play a part but I think people are being too careless as well. My parents in the rural west can take their daily constitutional. Unfortunately I think Dublin residents need to accept that they can’t have the same freedoms at the moment. I think there needs to be stricter controls in high population density areas for the good of the whole country.

Definitely agree re Dublin.

FionnK86 · 22-03-2020 12:34PM

rebeve wrote: »

Event201 A global pandemic exercise was launched in late 2019 , and then we have Covid 19 .Anyone else find that strange .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoLw-Q8X174

I find it reassuring that people were planning for this, but disappointing that the governments of world hadn’t invested enough resources to it.

sheepsh4gger · 22-03-2020 12:35PM

storker wrote: »

I've been wondering how much different cultures' definitions of personal space might have an impact on the rate at which the virus spreads.

https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/understanding-personal-space-proxemics/

Don't take it personally but ppl here are really dirty compared to other states. Like there will be one towel for 100 kids. Ireland is kill.

lbj666 · 22-03-2020 12:35PM

People don't seem to get into their tiny heads that the more that they don't practice the distancing and try and live like normal, the longer their lives won't get back to actual normal.

lbj666 · 22-03-2020 12:35PM

People don't seem to get into their tiny heads that the more that they don't practice the distancing and try and live like normal, the longer their lives won't get back to actual normal.

Abba987 · 22-03-2020 12:35PM

voluntary wrote: »

UK is sooooo f**.d

That is so last week

Gods Gift · 22-03-2020 12:36PM

rebeve wrote: »

Event201 A global pandemic exercise was launched in late 2019 , and then we have Covid 19 .Anyone else find that strange .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoLw-Q8X174

Jim corr seems to think so.

is_that_so · 22-03-2020 12:36PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

How do you explain France then?

We need to stop kidding ourselves

They have the same cafe culture! The French also ignore the government on principle until they shut everything down. Even now they are being fined in large enough numbers.

Phoebas · 22-03-2020 12:37PM

coolshannagh28 wrote: »

Each country which has faced the progress of this virus has had rapidly escalating numbers with the exception of those which took extreme measures like China , our rural nature may slow it down slightly.

We will have 'rapidly escalating numbers' (depending on how you define that).

That's a very different thing than saying it is inevitable that 'we will be hit like Italy'. There is no reason to think that is inevitable.

Cork Boy 53 · 22-03-2020 12:37PM

mick987 wrote: »

You still believe the Chinese figures? If you do I have a bridge for sale

As has been stated over and over again the Chinese authorities implemented a severe lockdown in Wuhan and Hubei which was strictly enforced. The WHO agree with their figures.

wadacrack · 22-03-2020 12:38PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

They're not all vacant. Many are occupied with non Covid19 cases.

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1241687680452263936

Cee-Jay-Cee · 22-03-2020 12:38PM

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

How do you explain France then?

We need to stop kidding ourselves

French are a very tactile nation, they greet each other by kissing on both cheeks, that surely must account for some of the spread. Also from my experience smoking appears to be much more common in France (although I haven’t been there in a few years but I’d imagine it hasn’t changed that much since then)

Sir Oxman · 22-03-2020 12:38PM

PsychoPete wrote: »

Except for shops I've seen very little social distancing, went to my usual walking spot this morning. Passed 3 groups of 5+ people walking directly beside each other likewise with anyone else I passed. People are morons

I'm seeing this as well.
And mostly older women.
Great, go for a walk but stay apart FFS. You can still talk and gossip 2mtrs apart.

ArchXStanton · 22-03-2020 12:38PM

Any new cases in China today?

frillyleaf · 22-03-2020 12:38PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

The declining cases might indicate we've successfully managed to contain some of the spread from Italian flights and the like.

That said I expect our numbers to rise when the virus spread related to UK flights start coming through.

Its critically important the HSE are able to track cases coming from the UK.

Limited flights and mandatory quarantening of UK arrivals is key.

40,000 people are waiting to be tested by HSE.

If we didn’t quarantine people arriving from Italy two weeks ago it’s highly unlikely we’ll do that to the UK.

It’s very early days to say we have it under control as there are such back logs with testing. Healthcare workers are short on PPE, people are waiting over a week to be tested, we have no flight restrictions or quarantine. Personally, I don’t see how this is under control.

is_that_so · 22-03-2020 12:39PM

FionnK86 wrote: »

I find it reassuring that people were planning for this, but disappointing that the governments of world hadn’t invested enough resources to it.

There have been false alarms before. Neither SARS nor MERS came our way. Now we have experienced it we will be ready for the next one.

sheepsh4gger · 22-03-2020 12:39PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Dublin is concerning though. Half the cases are here. Higher population density would play a part but I think people are being too careless as well. My parents in the rural west can take their daily constitutional. Unfortunately I think Dublin residents need to accept that they can’t have the same freedoms at the moment. I think there needs to be stricter controls in high population density areas for the good of the whole country.

When the sun is out the streets are full like nothing is happening. No distancing whatsoever. Once morgue videos leak from major hospitals they will start following the advice.

grindle · 22-03-2020 12:39PM

lbj666 wrote: »

People don't seem to get into their tiny heads that the more that they don't practice the distancing and try and live like normal, the longer their lives won't get back to actual normal.

This is the exact opposite of the truth, social distancing prolongs the weirdness - it IS the weirdness - but we hope it saves the most lives.

Zero social distancing & leaving everything open would allow it to run rampant and flow freely, more people would die and we'd be back to relative normality much sooner (with a guilty conscience).

citysights · 22-03-2020 12:40PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

It is coming. Well wishes and hope mean nothing.

Well giving everyone panic attacks over social media by saying things like the Italy situation is inevitable here is clearly unhelpful. Better for people to be coming up with solutions to mitigate an Italy situation here. And some people here are good thinkers and have made good suggestions like one this morning about getting shopping for elderly , keeping them right out of shop, get making masks here too young can do it, deliver shopping to elderly, wash the streets, like they did in Wuhan, all hands on deck.

Look what women did during world war 2 when the men were away, drove trucks, did mens work, reared children, lived on rations. I came through 08 recession, lost loads so know hardship, as do loads of other people. We have to stay strong and that begins with a positive survivalist mental attitude and cooperating with everyone. Sorry for long post, but it needs to be said imo.

is_that_so · 22-03-2020 12:41PM

frillyleaf wrote: »

40,000 people are waiting to be tested by HSE.

If we didn’t quarantine people arriving from Italy two weeks ago it’s highly unlikely we’ll do that to the UK.

It’s very early days to say we have it under control as there are such back logs with testing. Healthcare workers are short on PPE, people are waiting over a week to be tested, we have no flight restrictions or quarantine. Personally, I don’t see how this is under control.

According to Paul Reid they are not, it's a distribution issue. An order of 210m PPE items has been placed in China.

coolshannagh28 · 22-03-2020 12:41PM

Phoebas wrote: »

We will have 'rapidly escalating numbers' (depending on how you define that).

That's a very different thing than saying it is inevitable that 'we will be hit like Italy'. There is no reason to think that is inevitable.

It is inevitable it is delusional to think that we wont , virologists all over the media last night and today are pointing this out , our strategy of social distancing for 2 weeks needs to be reassessed this weekend and progress to a lockdown on contact and movement.

Humberto Salazar · 22-03-2020 12:41PM

ArchXStanton wrote: »

Any new cases in China today?

Only imported ones. Fourth day in a row if you believe the figures. However it does look like they've definitely halted this phase. Still, China is a massive country, 80000 cases a mere drop in their ocean , again if you believe the official line.

Raconteuse · 22-03-2020 12:41PM

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

Don't take it personally but ppl here are really dirty compared to other states. Like there will be one towel for 100 kids. Ireland is kill.

Ireland is kill?

Why would people be any worse here than any other western country with showering facilities in every home, hot water, easy access to soap, disinfectant, detergent?

is_that_so wrote: »

They have the same cafe culture! The French also ignore the government on principle until they shut everything down. Even now they are being fined in large enough numbers.

Smoking levels too. Very high level of smoking in China also. And Iran.

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP