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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #9482
    Raconteuse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Schools and colleges will not reopen until Aug/Sep at the earliest.
    How do you know? I think it's likely that the school year will be scrapped (don't know about the "at the earliest" bit) but need official confirmation to state for definite.


  • #9483
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I want my boring life back with no worries. I hate waking up every day thinking will I catch it today or not. I'm limiting the amount of people I see but I read of a story where a guy worked from home, went out once in 10 days to meet a friend and caught it. It seems it's so easy to catch it. It's not easy with people who don't understand the concept of distancing
    Makes real the curse, 'May you live in interesting times'


  • #9484
    sheepsh4gger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Is it inevitable though?

    I know the fall in numbers diagnosed over just three days cannot be taken as a trend yet, but not seeing how an extreme Italy situation is inevitable.
    If you look at say South Korea they are still under lockdown AFAIK i.e. schools closed etc.
    So this is at least a 6 week situation.
    I expect Leo to announce an extension next week.


  • #9485
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,950 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Just one thing, people need to be careful with pictures depending on the angle it can look like people are right beside each other when there a meter or so apart , you can't tell depth from pictures
    Not saying that is the case In that one but pictures can be deceiving


  • #9486
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Discodog wrote: »
    So they should do that & avoid open spaces being closed to the majority of responsible people.

    They're doing it now.

    They've blocked all roads into glendalough this morning and shut everything down


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  • #9487
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Number of people in Ireland needed ICU more than doubled last night for COVID-19(13-29) . 40,000 waiting to be tested. Only 173 vacant ICU beds atm.

    I’m guessing the increase is the people from the care home which has struck a nerve with me:mad:


  • #9488
    Lundstram
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    They're doing it now.

    They've blocked all roads into glendalough this morning and shut everything down
    And hopefully fines for those vendors.


  • #9489
    Glebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,153 ✭✭✭Glebee


    1.3 billion people in India went into a 14 hour curfew to try and stem the rising infection rate... 1.3 billion people, the mind boggles at those numbers. what chance is there to iradiate this virus worldwide with out a vacine.


  • #9490
    citysights
    Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    Phoebas wrote: »
    That is NOT inevitable.

    Exactly can the doom merchants PLEASE STOP. We are not Italy, we can socially distance, stay upbeat, support and help each other in any way we can. No it’s not pleasant but some people are giving up already. Grow a backbone, not you Phoebas, this is for the person who thinks the Italy situation is inevitable here it’s not. All is not lost, if we give up we’re done for stay strong everyone.


  • #9491
    voluntary
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭voluntary


    If someone cough or sneezes, the viruses fly 5 meters away. The formal 'stay 2 meters away' is not a guarantee, just a low risk assuming nobody sneezes in your directions. Where you have a lot of different people the chance is someone will sneeze.


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  • #9492
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Was chatting to a couple of Brazilians yesterday and it's the stress of not being able to touch that's getting to them! Living life out on the street in cafes, bars and restaurants is what has caused a lot of the issues as well as a casual dismissal of government announcements.

    Honestly think there's a lot to this, Latin cultures expect a lot of close physical proximity and will disregard when told it's not allowed anymore.


  • #9493
    BluePlanet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,444 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    trapp wrote: »
    Do you enjoy scaremongering?

    Permanent lung damage?

    That's complete and utter tripe and you know it.

    Not every person and it's not known if the damage is permanent.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-recovery-damage-lung-function-gasping-air-hong-kong-doctors-2020-3?IR=T


  • #9494
    Raconteuse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    is_that_so wrote: »
    The argument in our favour is that we acted early and so far that pressure on the health system is not evident.
    Oh according to some, the government did nothing. That's starting to recede I think now though - maybe some are learning that there are more important things than searching obsessively for things to blame the government for (or make them up).

    The ones left though are the "It's just a strategy to repress us" fruitcakes.


  • #9495
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,604 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Even stricter measures for Lombardy

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51991972

    Meanwhile no lockdown in Russia:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51972974

    "it's a deliberate show of business as usual: the president out and about, meeting crowds and shaking hands, not "social-distancing".

    But it is a show.

    Everyone who comes into close contact with President Putin is now being tested in advance for coronavirus."


  • #9496
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,614 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Is it inevitable though?

    I know the fall in numbers diagnosed over just three days cannot be taken as a trend yet, but not seeing how an extreme Italy situation is inevitable.
    Over the last week we're trending at plus 28% per day, that would put us over 1,000 today


  • #9497
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    citysights wrote: »
    Exactly can the doom merchants PLEASE STOP. We are not Italy, we can socially distance, stay upbeat, support and help each other in any way we can. No it’s not pleasant but some people are giving up already. Grow a backbone, not you Phoebas, this is for the person who thinks the Italy situation is inevitable here it’s not. All is not lost, if we give up we’re done for stay strong everyone.

    It is coming. Well wishes and hope mean nothing.


  • #9498
    storker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,712 ✭✭✭storker


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Very touchy feely cultures, mad levels of smoking (just ideas that have been suggested).

    I've been wondering how much different cultures' definitions of personal space might have an impact on the rate at which the virus spreads.

    https://thereader.mitpress.mit.edu/understanding-personal-space-proxemics/


  • #9499
    micks_address
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,197 ✭✭✭micks_address


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Number of people in Ireland needed ICU more than doubled last night for COVID-19(13-29) . 40,000 waiting to be tested. Only 173 vacant ICU beds atm.

    How long is the average stay in ICU with the virus?


  • #9500
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    Is it inevitable though?

    I know the fall in numbers diagnosed over just three days cannot be taken as a trend yet, but not seeing how an extreme Italy situation is inevitable.

    Dublin is concerning though. Half the cases are here. Higher population density would play a part but I think people are being too careless as well. My parents in the rural west can take their daily constitutional. Unfortunately I think Dublin residents need to accept that they can’t have the same freedoms at the moment. I think there needs to be stricter controls in high population density areas for the good of the whole country.


  • #9501
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Corkgirl20 wrote: »
    Anybody know if there’s word on school returns dates yet. I know we were told Monday March 30th. But surely that will be extended a week meaning that it will run into the 2 week off the kids will have anyway for Easter.
    I fear if schools open parents will think sure they’re on top of other kids in school everyday anyway may as well go ahead with that birthday party/play date etc.

    I know in my classroom I wouldn’t have enough desks or space to separate children and in the yard it’s impossible to keep them off of each other.
    Also a lot of my kids come to school with a sniffle, I’d probably have to send every kid with a sniffle home because the symptoms of the virus for kids can be mild.

    September at the earliest. This is only starting. We have a long long way to go yet.


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  • #9502
    Raconteuse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    It is coming. Well wishes and hope mean nothing.
    Wow you've changed your tune.


  • #9503
    coolshannagh28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭coolshannagh28


    Phoebas wrote: »
    That is NOT inevitable.

    Each country which has faced the progress of this virus has had rapidly escalating numbers with the exception of those which took extreme measures like China , our rural nature may slow it down slightly.


  • #9504
    rebeve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭rebeve


    Event201 A global pandemic exercise was launched in late 2019 , and then we have Covid 19 .Anyone else find that strange .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoLw-Q8X174


  • #9505
    Gynoid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,524 ✭✭✭Gynoid


    TheChizler wrote: »
    No, through contact of contaminated surfaces with your mouth/mucus membranes or breathing in infectious aerosol droplets from a cough or sneeze, which normally fall out of the air a few seconds after the cough or sneeze. If there's noone around you you won't get it from breathing it in.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/18/coronavirus-lives-for-hours-in-air-particles-and-days-on-surfaces-new-us-study-shows.html

    Study shows virus detectable in aerosols for up to 3 hours.


  • #9506
    otnomart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    otnomart wrote: »
    Sadly, there is a lot of the following going on in many people's heads right now.


    "It won't happen to us because:
    -we are have a younger population

    -we have a heathier population
    -we have a lower population density
    -we flee the nest and don't live with our elders

    -we respect the rules "


    the list goes on and on

    MipMap wrote: »
    Actually these are all valid arguments


    I disagree, I do not believe they are valid arguments; in my opinion they are just wishful thinking.

    MipMap wrote: »
    they are absolutely no excuse whatsoever for anyone taking the decision to risk someone else's life.


    We need to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.


    Agreed.
    Prepare for the worst include investing in the healthcare system so that there will be enough beds (both hospital and ICU beds) for all the patients who will need them.


  • #9507
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Bambi wrote: »
    Honestly think there's a lot to this, Latin cultures expect a lot of close physical proximity and will disregard when told it's not allowed anymore.

    How do you explain France then?

    We need to stop kidding ourselves


  • #9508
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    rebeve wrote: »
    Event201 A global pandemic exercise was launched in late 2019 , and then we have Covid 19 .Anyone else find that strange .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoLw-Q8X174

    No.


  • #9509
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    voluntary wrote: »
    If someone cough or sneezes in, the viruses fly 5 meters away. The formal 'stay 2 meters away' is not a guarantee, just a low risk assuming nobody sneezes in your directions


    Like all the advise. It's a balance between what is possible and probability.
    A 5 meter distance is better but totally impractical.


    The advise re masks is the same - they don't protect you much but they do have some effect. The Chinese, Belgians, Italians and Spanish together with every health worker you come across don't wear them for nothing.


  • #9510
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    wadacrack wrote:
    Number of people in Ireland needed ICU more than doubled last night for COVID-19(13-29) . 40,000 waiting to be tested. Only 173 vacant ICU beds atm.
    They're not all vacant. Many are occupied with non Covid19 cases.


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  • #9511
    Raconteuse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Dublin is concerning though. Half the cases are here. Higher population density would play a part but I think people are being too careless as well. My parents in the rural west can take their daily constitutional. Unfortunately I think Dublin residents need to accept that they can’t have the same freedoms at the moment. I think there needs to be stricter controls in high population density areas for the good of the whole country.
    Definitely agree re Dublin.


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