CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

Jim Gazebo · 22-03-2020 10:26AM

Valhallapt wrote: »

Independent reporting 14 cases in a old people home, I’d be fearful we could see a big spike in next few days

No point in being fearful, we've been told it's going to happen. Have to accept it for now and try stay positive and keep ourselves and family safe.

Jin luk · 22-03-2020 10:27AM

Sending people from monaghan to ballyhaise to get tested which is 45minutes away from our town testing only started for people local here in monaghan from 2 days ago still a high number waiting though.

I have the worst feeling ever our county will have severe high numbers

coastwatch · 22-03-2020 10:28AM

RiseAbove4 wrote: »

I’ve just read that 30% of all Irish cases have been hospitalised and it’s filled me with dread

So the maths on it is;

- 60% of us will get it (At least. I think it’ll be closer to 90%)

- And almost one third of those cases will end up in hospital?

Our hospital system will never cope with this!

Most of the initial cases were hospitalised for isolation reasons, not for clinical need.

DOCARCH · 22-03-2020 10:28AM

RiseAbove4 wrote: »

I’ve just read that 30% of all Irish cases have been hospitalised and it’s filled me with dread.

Many of them are only being hospitalised at the moment while there is capacity. Medical staff need to get the experience/observe. In time, with more and more cases, that 30% figure will drop.

Lucy8080 · 22-03-2020 10:29AM

Herd immunity/protect the economy strategy ....might be coming back to haunt Dominic Cummings. The Sunday Times is reporting him as having said "..........and if that means some pensioners die,too bad."

22-03-2020 10:29AM

patnor1011 wrote: »

EU solidarity is oxymoron - it actually looks like "everyone for themselves" in time of crisis. Germans confiscated every material which may be used to fight this crisis and other countries are doing the same.
Very shameful story which we will hardly find in any eu media happened in Czech Republic where they confiscated help which was sent from China and was supposed to go to Italy. Czech government boasted that they stopped criminals from exporting their own material abroad but one investigative journalist and nonprofit agency exposed this lie when they released pictures of boxes with description in chinese and italian.

EU countries hoarding supplies and banning export (of masks, medical equipment) to ensure they have "enough for themselves" is really no different than individual panic buying. It's just on a different scale.

The people who were running down to the shops and filling their trollies wanted to make sure they had enough for themselves. They prioritized those inside their family unit over those outside.

Countries like Germany are prioritizing those inside their borders over those outside.

is_that_so · 22-03-2020 10:31AM

RiseAbove4 wrote: »

I’ve just read that 30% of all Irish cases have been hospitalised and it’s filled me with dread

So the maths on it is;

- 60% of us will get it (At least. I think it’ll be closer to 90%)

- And almost one third of those cases will end up in hospital?

Our hospital system will never cope with this!

You seem to assume there is no planning going on. Plenty of reports on it daily.
Not where their model is going at all and it's the ICU numbers to be concerned about , which are currently at 13. A whole lot of people getting it over a period of months is what we want to achieve as it's far more manageable.

cj maxx · 22-03-2020 10:35AM

Not in Kansas wrote: »

In addition to dietry advice I think the messaging for smokers should be hammered home also. Give up now and within a day your blood pressure is lower and within one month your lungs are beginning to heal thus giving you a better chance against this thing.

I stopped smoking but have slipped a bit. I'm surprised it's not mentioned more in covid19 news

kevcos · 22-03-2020 10:35AM

irishgeo wrote: »

The Mediterranean diet was best diet in the world according newspapers and magazines a while back.

Well I suppose that the Mediterranean diet is healthy and can increase longevity; however increased longevity puts you within the grasp of Covid 19.
Cant bloody win!

silverharp · 22-03-2020 10:36AM

grim

https://twitter.com/CCalcistica/status/1241624772385046528

is_that_so · 22-03-2020 10:36AM

Jin luk wrote: »

Sending people from monaghan to ballyhaise to get tested which is 45minutes away from our town testing only started for people local here in monaghan from 2 days ago still a high number waiting though.

I have the worst feeling ever our county will have severe high numbers

Even if there are, the vast majority of cases are mild so it's contact tracing and isolate at home for 14 days.

careless sherpa · 22-03-2020 10:38AM

Lucy8080 wrote: »

Herd immunity/protect the economy strategy ....might be coming back to haunt Dominic Cummings. The Sunday Times is reporting him as having said "..........and if that means some pensioners die,too bad."

If he said that and things get nasty his shiny head could be on a spike

is_that_so · 22-03-2020 10:38AM

cjmc wrote: »

I stopped smoking but have slipped a bit. I'm surprised it's not mentioned more in covid19 news

Piece here mentions the possible effect of smoking and also considers why males have been worst hit.

https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-21/why-is-the-coronavirus-more-deadly-for-men-than-for-women

DevilsHaircut · 22-03-2020 10:39AM

'Germany’s coronavirus anomaly: high infection rates but few deaths'

https://twitter.com/tom_nuttall/status/1240902505053261825

stephenjmcd · 22-03-2020 10:41AM

Valhallapt wrote: »

Independent reporting 14 cases in a old people home, I’d be fearful we could see a big spike in next few days

This wouldn't be unexpected so I wouldn't read too much into it really. A spike was always predicted

22-03-2020 10:42AM

Morning everyone. Just checking in.

I’ve found myself reading less and less of this thread. The same with the news. This is going to be with us and all that is talked about for a very long time.

For your own well being, please take a good chunk of your day to concentrate on other things. Try to have 7-8 hours of sleep too.

Wishing each and every one of us the best xxx

stephenjmcd · 22-03-2020 10:43AM

RiseAbove4 wrote: »

I’ve just read that 30% of all Irish cases have been hospitalised and it’s filled me with dread

So the maths on it is;

- 60% of us will get it (At least. I think it’ll be closer to 90%)

- And almost one third of those cases will end up in hospital?

Our hospital system will never cope with this!

Stop scaremongering, everyone who had it at the start was hospitalised, they were basically test cases for hospitals to gain more experience.

That 30% figure is not accurate nor is that 90% will get it.

Irish_peppa · 22-03-2020 10:43AM

RiseAbove4 wrote: »

I’ve just read that 30% of all Irish cases have been hospitalised and it’s filled me with dread

So the maths on it is;

- 60% of us will get it (At least. I think it’ll be closer to 90%)

- And almost one third of those cases will end up in hospital?

Our hospital system will never cope with this!

Wheres this 60% number coming from? I saw that before So ultimately over half of Dublin will have this at some stage:eek:

Elessar · 22-03-2020 10:43AM

The irishtimes has an interview with one of the first people who got Covid-19 here from a skiing trip to Italy. He had absolutely no symptoms at all. In fact nobody in the group of 6 had symptoms yet they all tested positive. They only got tested because a nurse with them insisted on testing herself and found she had it.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/wicklow-man-recovered-from-coronavirus-showed-no-symptoms-after-ski-trip-1.4209060

It means a lot of people could have it and not even realise. You might have already had it and gotten over it.

is_that_so · 22-03-2020 10:44AM

Irish_peppa wrote: »

Wheres this 60% number coming from? I saw that before So ultimately over half of Dublin will have this at some stage:eek:

It's probably from that initial UK number when they were rounding up the herd!

DevilsHaircut · 22-03-2020 10:47AM

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1237068656514928640

Away With The Fairies · 22-03-2020 10:49AM

DOCARCH wrote: »

It's actually at 9% atm.

But, you would have to assume that there are far more untested/unconfirmed cases to get to that %.

Isn't that 9% from people who died in the hospitals? So it could actually be more.

rob316 · 22-03-2020 10:50AM

Elessar wrote: »

The irishtimes has an interview with one of the first people who got Covid-19 here from a skiing trip to Italy. He had absolutely no symptoms at all. In fact nobody in the group of 6 had symptoms yet they all tested positive. They only got tested because a nurse with them insisted on testing herself and found she had it.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/wicklow-man-recovered-from-coronavirus-showed-no-symptoms-after-ski-trip-1.4209060

It means a lot of people could have it and not even realise. You might have already had it and gotten over it.

Yep some testing in italy found 9 out 10 showing no symptoms yet were positive. More testing and random testing is needed. However for now the goal is making sure our health service can cope.

umop-apisdn · 22-03-2020 10:51AM

Midfield Major wrote: »

Don’t wet the bed !

That 30% number is skewed as all early cases were hospitalised to isolate.

Unless you are an epidemiologist your thoughts re 90% are meaningless.

Also, there’s a massive backlog on testing so priority is being given to hospitalised patients, with a 12-24hr turnaround rate for those tests.
All the mild cases where people are self-isolating at home have barely even started being processed yet. I’ve heard of people waiting over 7 days just to be called for the test.

Away With The Fairies · 22-03-2020 10:52AM

Elessar wrote: »

The irishtimes has an interview with one of the first people who got Covid-19 here from a skiing trip to Italy. He had absolutely no symptoms at all. In fact nobody in the group of 6 had symptoms yet they all tested positive. They only got tested because a nurse with them insisted on testing herself and found she had it.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/wicklow-man-recovered-from-coronavirus-showed-no-symptoms-after-ski-trip-1.4209060

It means a lot of people could have it and not even realise. You might have already had it and gotten over it.

That is quite scary. I suppose it's still early days to realise if there's any long term damage even from those with no symptoms.

stephenjmcd · 22-03-2020 10:52AM

Elessar wrote: »

The irishtimes has an interview with one of the first people who got Covid-19 here from a skiing trip to Italy. He had absolutely no symptoms at all. In fact nobody in the group of 6 had symptoms yet they all tested positive. They only got tested because a nurse with them insisted on testing herself and found she had it.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/wicklow-man-recovered-from-coronavirus-showed-no-symptoms-after-ski-trip-1.4209060

It means a lot of people could have it and not even realise. You might have already had it and gotten over it.

Good few reports similar that people have been tested positive and absolutely no symptoms. This has probably been doing the rounds alot longer than anyone thinks and some people could be over it without even knowing

mick987 · 22-03-2020 10:52AM

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

Harris said they're ineffective. So yeah, I think I'll invest.

I think they are saying masks do not stop you from getting CoVid 19 but stops you from passing in on, so if everybody wore one we would stop the spread.

Nermal · 22-03-2020 10:52AM

RiseAbove4 wrote: »

So the maths on it is;

- 60% of us will get it (At least. I think it’ll be closer to 90%)

- And almost one third of those cases will end up in hospital?

Our hospital system will never cope with this!

No.

It varies by age group. Consider under 50s - 5% of those currently testing positive go to hospital. 6% of them end up in the ICU.

But hang on - only people with symptoms are getting tested! When you test widely, half the people who have it don’t have symptoms at all. Furthermore, the test is only positive if you currently have it. A significant fraction of the population may already unknowingly have had it!

The bottom line: among under 50s, closer to 1% of those who contract it end up in hospital. 0.06% of those who contract it end up in ICU.

stephenjmcd · 22-03-2020 10:56AM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

That is quite scary. I suppose it's still early days to realise if there's any long term damage even from those with no symptoms.

I wouldn't say its quite scary, goes to show theres potentially different strains or some people can fight it off which shows that we have some sort of anti body against it.

It'll be good for medical researchers but it's a comfort if anything else that even if some people have it they wont have the doomsday scenario they see on tv.

Assetbacked · 22-03-2020 10:56AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Good few reports similar that people have been tested positive and absolutely no symptoms. This has probably been doing the rounds alot longer than anyone thinks and some people could be over it without even knowing

Yeah, it is likely that many people have already gotten it and recovered from even the mild symptoms and will never go near a testing kit. Even with the official recorded cases, many have recovered so it is scare mongering to just list total cases, total hospitalisation and total deaths. It's not all negative anymore given the worldwide focus on containing and educating about it, hopefully we'll start to see people calming down and getting back to a revised version of normality very soon, with the focus switching to all of us ensuring the vulnerable categories of people are protected.

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP