CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

Lord Trollington · 22-03-2020 02:02AM

How does people see all of this playing out.

The virus isnt going away anywhere. Best estimates is that we're 12-18months away from a vaccine .

In Ireland we're really only 15-20 days into this.
How long can his go on?
We can lockdown and curtail the initial spread but we cant stay locked away for ever.
Are we looking at month and months of interruptions.

wakka12 · 22-03-2020 02:02AM

threeball wrote: »

If that's true there's something seriously wrong there. It's not replicated anywhere else. Not even a suggestion

Well the other hardest hit nations China and Iran , of course a lot of rumours of cover up. Iranian health officials have publicly stated that thousands of deaths and hundreds of thousands of cases in iran have not been added to the official numbers

irishproduce · 22-03-2020 02:03AM

Naggdefy wrote: »

Why was this post yellow carded?

Thanks

SharpshooterTom · 22-03-2020 02:03AM

fritzelly wrote: »

They weren't even testing people til this last week - the criteria even now is still quite strict to get a test. Think one day, was it this week or last, they only did something like 70 tests in one day for the whole country.
It is gonna blow up in the next week - already blowing up in NY

Its bad, but its bad in a lot of countries. Relatively speaking the USA isn't doing any worse for its population size compared to a lot of countries in Europe. That includes the mortality rate.

Lord Trollington · 22-03-2020 02:03AM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

The USA has a population 5-6 times of many countries in Europe. By definition it should have 5-6 times the number of infected cases. If you look at number of cases per million the USA is on 79, whereas Spain is 545, Italy 886, Germany 267 etc.

Trump will be blamed for this no matter what, and absolutely he deserves some criticism, but the US aren't doing any worse than some countries in Europe, I'd argue they're doing better than the UK with 75 million now under lockdown, closing schools much earlier. Their mortality rate is also quite good for its population so far. He didn't engage in nonsense herding like Boris did. If Trump deserves blame so do a lot other world leaders therefore.

And anyone who thinks if a democrat were in charge and would've avoided the stock market collapsing, a recession and huge job losses are no more than a partisan hack. That doesn't mean Trump is the right man for the crisis right now, far from it, I'm not confident in him either.

But those who are calling it the #trumpvirus and the "Trump pandemic" cynically cheering this on so they can get their beloved democrats are quite shameful. Bill Maher wanted a mass recession so perhaps he's got his wish.

You need to stop sniffing glue pal

FVP3 · 22-03-2020 02:03AM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

The USA has a population 5-6 times of many countries in Europe. By definition it should have 5-6 times the number of infected cases. If you look at number of cases per million the USA is on 79, whereas Spain is 545, Italy 886, Germany 267 etc.

Trump will be blamed for this no matter what, and absolutely he deserves some criticism, but the US aren't doing any worse than some countries in Europe, I'd argue they're doing better than the UK with 75 million now under lockdown, closing schools much earlier. Their mortality rate is also quite good for its population so far. He didn't engage in nonsense herding like Boris did.

If Trump deserves blame so do a lot other world leaders therefore.

And anyone who thinks if a democrat were in charge and would've avoided the stock market collapsing, a recession and huge job losses are no more than a partisan hack. That doesn't mean Trump is the right man for the crisis right now, far from it, I'm confident in him either.

But those who are calling it the #trumpvirus and the "Trump pandemic" cynically cheering this on so they can get their beloved democrats are quite shameful. Bill Maher wanted a mass recession so perhaps he's got his wish.

It's strange how Irish people get so involved in the American system, they become democrats or Republicans. In saying the US is having problems we are just talking about the numbers. Dont care who is running the place.

Lots of countries in Europe have higher per capita rates of infection than the US, but the US rate of increase is quite high. And they may not be testing as well as, say, the Germans.

Speak Now · 22-03-2020 02:04AM

If thousands have had it and recovered then our mortality rate is unbelievably low.

nocoverart · 22-03-2020 02:04AM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Mother Earth has obviously decided to do something about the way the human population has been mistreating her. A major realignment of the global population is on the way.

And she done it through the worst procrastinator first.

Quantum Erasure · 22-03-2020 02:04AM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Mother Earth has obviously decided to do something about the way the human population has been mistreating her. A major realignment of the global population is on the way.

JP Liz V1 · 22-03-2020 02:04AM

Barbados PM said Rihanna has offered to pay for ventilators, who can help us Bono, Neeson, McManus, Geldof, Goodman etc.,

bb12 · 22-03-2020 02:05AM

nc6000 wrote: »

What do you have in the spray bottle and how do you know it's effective against Covid-19?

Serious question.

sodium hypochlorite. the same stuff you can disinfect baby bottles with. basically diluted chlorine. it's been proven to kill coronoviruses if left sitting on surfaces for about 15 mins

V8 Interceptor · 22-03-2020 02:05AM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

The USA has a population 5-6 times of many countries in Europe. By definition it should have 5-6 times the number of infected cases. If you look at number of cases per million the USA is on 79, whereas Spain is 545, Italy 886, Germany 267 etc.

Trump will be blamed for this no matter what.

Someone's best reason they could give to me for having our borders wide open was because it would be too difficult to close them.

The USA is huge. Trump stopped all flights from Europe and other places and sealed seven and a half thousand miles of border with Canada & Mexico.

Yet apparently its "too difficult" for us to keep our piddly little island from being a petri dish for half the World.

Woodsie1 · 22-03-2020 02:06AM

Massive fcuk up not shutting down travel from badly affected areas...Its not like they didnt know...ah yeh cancel the rugby but still let 1000's of fans travel for pints and craic.

Xertz · 22-03-2020 02:06AM

SlowBlowin wrote: »

I wonder what the astronauts and cosmonauts in the ISS space station are thinking ?

"Space isn't so bad?"

Wolf359f · 22-03-2020 02:06AM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Barbados PM said Rihanna has offered to pay for ventilators, who can help us Bono, Neeson, McManus, Geldof, Goodman etc.,

Easy to pay for them, getting them when you need them is a different matter.

Woodsie1 · 22-03-2020 02:07AM

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Lord Trollington wrote: »

You need to stop sniffing glue pal

V8 Interceptor · 22-03-2020 02:07AM

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Massive fcuk up not shutting down travel from badly affected areas...Its not like they didnt know...ah yeh cancel the rugby but still let 1000's of fans travel for pints and craic.

How the hell are people on this Forum still defending them for that monumental cock up?

Woodsie1 · 22-03-2020 02:08AM

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

How the hell are people on this Forum still defending them for that monumental cock up?

Cos Trump

SharpshooterTom · 22-03-2020 02:08AM

Populations:

USA - 328 million
Germany - 83 million
France - 67 million
UK - 67 million
Italy - 61 million
Spain - 47 million

All things considered equal the US should top the list by some distance come July. It will be on the US to see if they can successfully flatten the curve. There are some skillful people working in that white house, Dr.Fauci and Deborah Birx. Theres also a 2 billion stimulus coming in next week.

Xertz · 22-03-2020 02:09AM

Wolf359f wrote: »

Easy to pay for them, getting them when you need them is a different matter.

There's finite production capacity and money isn't going to change that. Ramping up the production might, but they're also highly specialist pieces of kit.

Apparently we do produce a significant % of the global supply of ventilators in Galway though.

skimpydoo · 22-03-2020 02:09AM

Does anyone know if the RTE employee with Covid-19, is a reporter, a presenter or someone working behind the scenes?

alan partridge aha · 22-03-2020 02:09AM

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

How the hell are people on this Forum still defending them for that monumental cock up?

Absolute fcukwits, and allowing travel to Cheltenham

Speak Now · 22-03-2020 02:10AM

Xertz wrote: »

"Space isn't so bad?"

Astronauts invented social distancing

statesaver · 22-03-2020 02:10AM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Its bad, but its bad in a lot of countries. Relatively speaking the USA isn't doing any worse for its population size compared to a lot of countries in Europe. That includes the mortality rate.

Stopped watching Bill Maher after he said something like, 'what we need to get rid of Trump is a recession'. And the clowns in the audience clapped.
A fcuking multi millionaire wishing for a recession which would not effect him one bit.
That made me so mad.

tom1ie · 22-03-2020 02:10AM

bb12 wrote: »

everything becomes routine after you've done it a couple of times. how long does it take to put on a pair of gloves? rather do that than play russian roulette with my health.

there's a new normal coming for everyone during and after this.

Immunity/vaccine is much more preferable than trying to avoid this thing

Strazdas · 22-03-2020 02:10AM

Lord Trollington wrote: »

How does people see all of this playing out.

The virus isnt going away anywhere. Best estimates is that we're 12-18months away from a vaccine .

In Ireland we're really only 15-20 days into this.
How long can his go on?
We can lockdown and curtail the initial spread but we cant stay locked away for ever.
Are we looking at month and months of interruptions.

Some interesting articles about this in the last few days. We could save waves of events rather than anything continuous - we could see social distancing restrictions lifted in say June but might need to be reintroduced a few months later.

I've seen one mathematician suggest tonight that the virus might go into a slow downward curve everywhere in Europe in about 12 weeks time.

coolshannagh28 · 22-03-2020 02:11AM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Barbados PM said Rihanna has offered to pay for ventilators, who can help us Bono, Neeson, McManus, Geldof, Goodman etc.,

Philanthropy is not an Irish trait.

Westernyelp · 22-03-2020 02:11AM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Its bad, but its bad in a lot of countries. Relatively speaking the USA isn't doing any worse for its population size compared to a lot of countries in Europe. That includes the mortality rate.

You do realise that the US are only at the beginning of this process?

tikkahunter · 22-03-2020 02:11AM

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

How the hell are people on this Forum still defending them for that monumental cock up?

How many direct cases have turned up from that by the way ?

fritzelly · 22-03-2020 02:11AM

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Its bad, but its bad in a lot of countries. Relatively speaking the USA isn't doing any worse for its population size compared to a lot of countries in Europe. That includes the mortality rate.

Why are so many states going on lockdown, even when they were doing tests earlier on the tests were flawed to the point of pointless.
Watch them the next week - I expect they will be screwed
New York gone from a few hundred cases to over 10,000 in a week
USA as a whole in a week has gone from a few hundred to 24,000

Trump criticising Cuomo - why is that that I wonder...?

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP