CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

owlbethere · 21-03-2020 10:01PM

KiKi III wrote: »

What if it does the opposite? If most people in ICU are 75+ it could embolden young people who are already taking risks.

There was a YouTube video posted earlier. There was an Italian doctor speaking. She has some colleagues in ICU and she said they were 45/50 years old.

YFlyer · 21-03-2020 10:01PM

I have a dry tickling throat. Feels like the effect from drinking dry cider. Had 8 cans last night, so that could be it. Had a few glasses of hot water today and that induced phlegm. Got rid of.

Energy level grand. Was up and about doing some spring cleaning. Did a light 5 Km run.

I doubt it's due to the novel coronavirus.

JP Liz V1 · 21-03-2020 10:02PM

woohoo!!! wrote: »

A recovery?

Is any list of recovered available?

sheepsh4gger · 21-03-2020 10:03PM

silverharp wrote: »

vaping is cancelled
https://twitter.com/be_machiavelli/status/1241424509187620873

Anyone who is smoking in general should stop it immediately if they value their lives. They say in 2 weeks to 2 months they heal themselves. You probably want to be as healthy as possible before you get infected.

MipMap · 21-03-2020 10:03PM

lawred2 wrote: »

These testing numbers are just annoying. Largely meaningless. For them to be meaningful, you would have to test the entire population every day. Testing should only be used to confirm infection because of presented symptoms. They are not a count of 'infected'

Perfectly put !

woohoo!!! · 21-03-2020 10:04PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is any list of recovered available?

Bar the family in Clare, I have not seen numbers for recoveries.

Hamsterchops · 21-03-2020 10:04PM

Covid cases (diagnosed)!
Saturday 22 / March 2020.
Small'ish countries....

Netherlands 3,631
Belgium 2,815
Norway 2,142
Sweden 1,764
Portugal 1,280
Israel 0,883
Ireland 0,785
Chile 0,537
Greece 0,530
Scotland 0,373
Cyprus 0,084
Malta 0,073
N.Zea 0,052

iwillyeah1234 · 21-03-2020 10:04PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Stronger immune system

Not necessarily- takes a while to build that up. A 10 year old has a much stronger immune system than a 5 year old.

Why no under fives being killed by Corona? We’re not seeing that

As a rule of thumb in pandemics , it’s always the under 5s and the over 60s that suffer equally. We’re not seeing that with Corona.

fritzelly · 21-03-2020 10:05PM

silverharp wrote: »

vaping is cancelled

https://twitter.com/be_machiavelli/status/1241424509187620873

Typical of that newspaper - sensational headline

Followed by

Some of my [colleagues] have noted people under 30 ending up in hospitals and a couple were vapors,” Glantz said, noting a link has not been confirmed.

Also the WHO found no higher numbers in smokers when checking the data from China

dummy_crusher · 21-03-2020 10:05PM

woohoo!!! wrote: »

Bar the family in Clare, I have not seen numbers for recoveries.

There was a single recovery yesterday. Recoveries went from 4 -> 5.

Not included in the briefing but apparently included in the data the HSE hand over to WHO, etc, as I was told by another user here.

Worldometer and John's Hopkins both have the updated figure of 5.

fritzelly · 21-03-2020 10:07PM

dummy_crusher wrote: »

There was a single recovery yesterday. Recoveries went from 4 -> 5.

Not included in the briefing but apparently included in the data the HSE hand over to WHO, etc, as I was told by another user here.

Worldometer and John's Hopkins both have the updated figure of 5.

First recovery was 11th March

The_Brood · 21-03-2020 10:07PM

How in the world is all this social welfare/mortgage freezing/business saving packages going to be paid for? In Ireland and abroad? You understand a few weeks, but if this really goes on for months....how are governments going to find the money to afford this? All the time nonstop we hear about how there's no money for this or that that the public needs, and how they can't possibly tax rich people/corporations any more...ok....so how in the world will they fund all this for months and months?

Things are making 0 economic sense right now and people aren't asking politicians the important questions.

signostic · 21-03-2020 10:08PM

Fast test in the USA developed

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/21/politics/fda-coronavirus-test/index.html

CinemaGuy45 · 21-03-2020 10:08PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

Not necessarily- takes a while to build that up. A 10 year has a much stronger immune system than a 5 year old.

Why no under fives being killed by Corona? We’re not seeing that

As a rule of thumb in pandemics , it’s always the under 5s and the over 60s that suffer equally. We’re not seeing that with Corona.

In serious cases Corona causes phenomenon the immune response can make this worse.

I know I made and offhand comment about the gangs of teens wondering around a few pages ago but I am genuinely glad to see children seem to be escaping the worst of this.

People in their 30s and 40s can get a serious case and die however most deaths have been older people.

ACitizenErased · 21-03-2020 10:10PM

I thought Ireland was the first country to develop 15 minute tests? Where did all that nonsense go?

dummy_crusher · 21-03-2020 10:10PM

fritzelly wrote: »

First recovery was 11th March

First 4 recoveries were announced on 14th March. One was in the data yesterday but not included in the briefing.

Edit: Actually, it was the 15th March

Away With The Fairies · 21-03-2020 10:10PM

The_Brood wrote: »

How in the world is all this social welfare/mortgage freezing/business saving packages going to be paid for? In Ireland and abroad? You understand a few weeks, but if this really goes on for months....how are governments going to find the money to afford this? All the time nonstop we hear about how there's no money for this or that that the public needs, and how they can't possibly tax rich people/corporations any more...ok....so how in the world will they fund all this for months and months?

Things are making 0 economic sense right now and people aren't asking politicians the important questions.

They found money to save the banks.

sheepsh4gger · 21-03-2020 10:10PM

The_Brood wrote: »

How in the world is all this social welfare/mortgage freezing/business saving packages going to be paid for? In Ireland and abroad? You understand a few weeks, but if this really goes on for months....how are governments going to find the money to afford this? All the time nonstop we hear about how there's no money for this or that that the public needs, and how they can't possibly tax rich people/corporations any more...ok....so how in the world will they fund all this for months and months?

Things are making 0 economic sense right now and people aren't asking politicians the important questions.

Millions of people died of starvation during the great depression. If you look at the stock market the curve is pretty much like 1929. It hasn't found its bottom yet.

DevilsHaircut · 21-03-2020 10:11PM

Some recoveries https://twitter.com/IrishTimes/status/1241385840711839744

niallo27 · 21-03-2020 10:11PM

YFlyer wrote: »

I have a dry tickling throat. Feels like the effect from drinking dry cider. Had 8 cans last night, so that could be it. Had a few glasses of hot water today and that induced phlegm. Got rid of.

Energy level grand. Was up and about doing some spring cleaning. Did a light 5 Km run.

I doubt it's due to the novel coronavirus.

Have another 8 cans and report back.

NIMAN · 21-03-2020 10:13PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

They found money to save the banks.

Yes, they are called loans.

The ECB is involved in quantative easing, again.

We are all getting the money loaned to us.

CinemaGuy45 · 21-03-2020 10:13PM

YFlyer wrote: »

I have a dry tickling throat. Feels like the effect from drinking dry cider. Had 8 cans last night, so that could be it. Had a few glasses of hot water today and that induced phlegm. Got rid of.

Energy level grand. Was up and about doing some spring cleaning. Did a light 5 Km run.

I doubt it's due to the novel coronavirus.

It could be skin failure or fin rot I would get it checked out.;)

SuperTortoise · 21-03-2020 10:13PM

The_Brood wrote: »

How in the world is all this social welfare/mortgage freezing/business saving packages going to be paid for? In Ireland and abroad? You understand a few weeks, but if this really goes on for months....how are governments going to find the money to afford this? All the time nonstop we hear about how there's no money for this or that that the public needs, and how they can't possibly tax rich people/corporations any more...ok....so how in the world will they fund all this for months and months?

Things are making 0 economic sense right now and people aren't asking politicians the important questions.

You don't want to know the answer to that, in fact nobody wants to know that answer which is why nobody is asking the question.

irishproduce · 21-03-2020 10:13PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

There are about 4'000 deaths in Italy so far.

At a death rate of 6% if all of Italy got the thing that would be 3.6 Million deaths.

Even the most pesamistic among us here does not expect the 6% death rate to hold true for the wider population nor do we expect all 60 Million Italians to get this thing.

At a death rate of 2% for Italy this thing COULD cause close to a Million deaths.

Italy has 60 million people and even I cannot see a Million deaths happening.

The most vulnerable seem to be dying so as this thing spreads I think we can expect to see the death rate drop.

Should we panic? NO
Should we worry? YES

We need to take this thing serious.

People getting very carried away.
China's dead rates have tapered off now and if China has another couple of thousand dead by the end of the year I'd be surprised.
If nothing was done and the disease was allowed move freely, then maybe some big numbers would die but the fact China's is almost controlled and capped now tells you that Italy will taper off very soon as well.

EB_2013 · 21-03-2020 10:14PM

The_Brood wrote: »

How in the world is all this social welfare/mortgage freezing/business saving packages going to be paid for? In Ireland and abroad? You understand a few weeks, but if this really goes on for months....how are governments going to find the money to afford this? All the time nonstop we hear about how there's no money for this or that that the public needs, and how they can't possibly tax rich people/corporations any more...ok....so how in the world will they fund all this for months and months?

Things are making 0 economic sense right now and people aren't asking politicians the important questions.

There was talk of a rainy day fund when Brexit was happening so they might be dipping into that.

iwillyeah1234 · 21-03-2020 10:15PM

The_Brood wrote: »

How in the world is all this social welfare/mortgage freezing/business saving packages going to be paid for? In Ireland and abroad? You understand a few weeks, but if this really goes on for months....how are governments going to find the money to afford this? All the time nonstop we hear about how there's no money for this or that that the public needs, and how they can't possibly tax rich people/corporations any more...ok....so how in the world will they fund all this for months and months?

Things are making 0 economic sense right now and people aren't asking politicians the important questions.

It’s staring you in the face - they can print money. Out of thin air.

If I had a million euros in the bank in savings , I’d be buying real assets right now. Gold bullion. Antique furniture. Classic cars. Art. 25% of that million at least. Then another 25% in bonds. Treasury notes. Leaves Half a million. Keep 250k cash , 250k on a nice house in France.

That’s what I’d do right now.

fritzelly · 21-03-2020 10:15PM

dummy_crusher wrote: »

First 4 recoveries were announced on 14th March. One was in the data yesterday but not included in the briefing.

Edit: Actually, it was the 15th March

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/first-coronavirus-patient-discharged-from-cuh-after-making-full-recovery-987419.html

darjeeling · 21-03-2020 10:16PM

Iceland has been testing the general population as well as symptomatic cases.

They've done 9,768 tests out of a population of ~360k. That's 1 person in 37, more per capita than any other country.

The test total includes 5,571 tests on the general population starting a week ago, giving 48 positives.
If that holds for the whole country, it would mean about 3,000 positives.

The targeted testing found 425 positives from 4,197 tests, which would mean that targeted testing has missed over 80%.

https://www.government.is/news/article/2020/03/15/Large-scale-testing-of-general-population-in-Iceland-underway/

statesaver · 21-03-2020 10:16PM

https://twitter.com/UoSMedia/status/1240939211211112448

SuperTortoise · 21-03-2020 10:16PM

irishproduce wrote: »

People getting very carried away.
China's dead rates have tapered off now and if China has another couple of thousand dead by the end of the year I'd be surprised.
If nothing was done and the disease was allowed.move freely, then maybe some.bif numbers would die but the fact China's is almost controlled and called now tells you that Italy will taper off very soon as well.

The numbers in most of the rest of the world won't fall nearly as quickly as China's, their lockdown was absolute, ours is open to interpretation.

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP