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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    Blaze420 wrote: »
    Yeah but would you mind telling me when bacon has in its entire history caused a worldwide pandemic??

    The Spanish flu is thought to have come from farmed pigs that infected humans


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,571 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    Two reasons. One, Italy has a disproportionate number of elderly people who are most at risk. More at-risk people equals more deaths. Two, Italy's health system makes ours look world class and Italy is broke.

    You for real northern Italy has one of the best health care systems in the world ya ejit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,531 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Two reasons. One, Italy has a disproportionate number of elderly people who are most at risk. More at-risk people equals more deaths. Two, Italy's health system makes ours look world class and Italy is broke.

    Italys health system is better than ours. Twice as many ICU beds per capita than here or the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    youtube! wrote: »
    I can tell you 100% that she is not doing the news at 9.o clock 100%.

    Ok, well I'll go by yer wan saying it on the 6 o'clock news rather than some unsubstantiated rumour thanks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Two reasons. One, Italy has a disproportionate number of elderly people who are most at risk. More at-risk people equals more deaths. Two, Italy's health system makes ours look world class and Italy is broke.

    :confused: Northern Italy has one of the best health services in the World


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,665 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Blaze420 wrote: »
    Yeah but would you mind telling me when bacon has in its entire history caused a worldwide pandemic??

    2009?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,806 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Just as well there's no such thing as bird flu or mad cow disease. Oh...

    Do you know how that started?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Ce he sin


    Logan Roy wrote: »
    That's not the case at all, the numbers don't add up. If 700+ were dying from cases that started two weeks ago it would make the fatality rate much much higher than 4-5%. Italy had 4.5k cases two weeks ago.


    That depends very much on how and when they do their testing and if the subjects are already showing symptoms.
    Anyway, my comment still applies. There are far more new cases daily now and that has its consequences later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,394 ✭✭✭dan786




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭terenc


    “We are in trouble”, just after coming back from a walk with my dog , takeaways full of people shoulder to shoulder, one publican has a notice up selling Take away Mothers day lunch. It just takes one or more of these people who are handling and preparing food to be carrying this virus to create a tsunami of infection. Our health workers don’t need this, time now Minister to close all these food outlets.
    I


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  • Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Two reasons. One, Italy has a disproportionate number of elderly people who are most at risk. More at-risk people equals more deaths. Two, Italy's health system makes ours look world class and Italy is broke.

    No. Italy has one of top three health systems in the world


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭lbj666


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    2009?

    That was a pig not bacon😋


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    frillyleaf wrote: »
    The Spanish flu is thought to have come from farmed pigs that infected humans

    Yes for those in close contact with the animals and their excretions - not from eating bacon which is what I asked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,820 ✭✭✭smelly sock


    Ffs. Italy another 700 odd dead. Nightmare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭youtube!


    Ok, well I'll go by yer wan saying it on the 6 o'clock news rather than some unsubstantiated rumour thanks!


    She didn't say that though did she? Anyway just wait and see if she reads the news at 9.00


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 236 ✭✭BurnUp78


    Ce he sin wrote: »
    We also eat pig meat, a thing that much of the world finds disgusting.

    Indoor pig farms ain't a pretty sight either. We have better hygiene practises but the morality of factory farming isn't far off eating bats


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭Cw85


    Has anyone got a live link to the briefing updating today's figures?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,868 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Live Q&A press conference from Chinese big wigs on newsnow......W're coming up i the world


    or they just think they're speaking to an English channel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,806 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    This special on News Now is painful to listen to (near impossible to understand) - should have got a translator


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    I'm sceptical we can flatten the curve anytime soon while flights to and from the UK remain.
    You'd have to assume at least some people coming in are covid 19 infected and will go on to spread it.

    Lockdowns like Wuhan only work when you have a closed off zone or region with people neither going in or out. We don't have that here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    I think people should stop trying to predict a country's growth based on Italy's.

    Agreed, but we can definitely learn from them. Treat it as a worst case scenario for growth perhaps? I'm sure the people in charge here are watching closely and crunching the numbers.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    :confused: Northern Italy has one of the best health services in the World

    Not any more unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,356 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Italy’s death toll today is tragic...

    Almost 800 people..

    What time is our update?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 13,665 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Cw85 wrote: »
    Has anyone got a live link to the briefing updating today's figures?

    No briefing, just a press release


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,803 ✭✭✭lucalux


    Big fan of speaking up, and asking people to respect social distancing guidelines, but just two anecdotes from yesterday to share.

    (Sorry it's really long, but I wanted to be clear on context!)

    Went to Lidl where they had security guard at tills, marks on floor 2m apart. Had to politely ask a guy (late 30's/early 40's, builder by the looks of it, work gear on) to move back as he was about 10inches behind me.

    Just said y'know, social distancing, 2m, pointed to marks on the floor, yadayadayada.

    He took a half step back, i repeated what i said and he exaggeratedly moved way back. Happy days, but he was also sneering at me, and laughing with other guys beside him in the aisle, so I just felt like he was not bothered at all.

    Fair enough, what more can you do?

    In Aldi, no marks, no security, no sign of social distancing measures at tills etc.

    Woman (late 30's, Irish, just come from the gym I'd guess) basically asked me did I want to fight when I politely asked her would she mind staying back, after she kept moving up behind me in the queue!

    I was loading my shopping on the belt, she was max 2ft away, most of the times, she came up 1ft/30cm behind me, each time I moved forward.

    Dog's abuse. I got sneered at, called a lunatic, was told I was rude (!) and got told to 'trot the fúck on', and asked "who do you even think you are?!"

    I said I'm just trying to maintain the rules of social distancing, I've been polite to you. It's not much to ask.

    She then asked me "Do you really want to get into a fight here?"

    Right I said to myself, ignore her I can't say more to this one, or I'll end up sharing some home truths with her, rudely (what can I say, I'm stressed and worried!)

    I'm high risk. I had asked her politely, explained why, and I deliberately said it quietly, so as not to embarrass her, in case she just had a lapse in attention, as can happen.

    What bothered me was of the 30-40 people at tills, who watched this unfold, loudly, not one person said anything. I wouldn't expect it usually, but she launched at me, and I was trying so hard to be kind and reasonable, y'know?! Just one person to say 'hey stay back, we're all in the same boat' kind of thing?

    Till guy was sound, seemed to be extra nice to me after it, but I was SHAKING with anger, and tears that I managed to hold in thank feck, so glad when I got out of the shop.

    So basically, late 30's 'gym bunnies' (she did seem a bit like an insta-hun) and youngish men, not teenagers, are to be included in my opinion, in the groups of people not taking this shít seriously. There's a cohort of people in the middle of the two extremes mentioned on here most often, that need to cop on I think.

    So…

    TL:DR maybe, if people see stuff like this happening when people ask for 2m space, more people might back up the ones getting stick for asking?!

    Would be glad to see it, but I won't, cos that's the last shop I'm doing for the foreseeable, I'll hang on till April 3rd when I can next get a Tesco delivery :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    Cw85 wrote: »
    Has anyone got a live link to the briefing updating today's figures?

    This was posted here earlier but posting again since things are moving so fast here...

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1241414139425296386


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Blaze420 wrote: »
    Yeah but would you mind telling me when bacon has in its entire history caused a worldwide pandemic??

    There are theories that the Spanish flu originated from a pig farm in the US. Look it up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,328 ✭✭✭✭klose


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    Live Q&A press conference from Chinese big wigs on newsnow......W're coming up i the world


    or they just think they're speaking to an English channel

    Sound quality was really poor so turned it off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,487 ✭✭✭1800_Ladladlad


    Live on Sky news about half an hour ago there was an interview live from in a hospital in the north and the main doctor was saying that there are a lot of people between the age bracket of the 30s and 40s now making their way into the hospitals in need of medical assistance or critical care. Iv been trying to find the clip but it might of not been uploaded yet. It was shocking to hear. It was sobering. Because I don't have the link to the footage, you can take that with a pinch of salt as they say .


    I also haven't liked today in regards to people not social distancing. Bastards

    "Your universe has no meaning to them.
    They will not try to understand. They will be tired, they will be cold, they will make a fire with your beautiful oak door..."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    No. Italy has one of top three health systems in the world
    It also has nearly 3000 serious or critical cases and has put out a call for 300 more doctors. No matter how good it is it has been overwhelmed.


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