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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    Wicklow man recovered from coronavirus showed no symptoms after ski trip

    https://twitter.com/IrishTimes/status/1241385840711839744


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    GM228 wrote: »
    We don't have martial law in Ireland.

    Hes coming soon, with his mate Marshel Manners


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Take-away: self-isolate if you get a sudden loss of smell or taste https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1241376338554040322
    That sounds like the Spanish Flu


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all



    We know people recover it's the less fortunate that they can pass it on to is the worry


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,030 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    When Joe Biden gets in I hope people will put in the same level of constant scrutiny.
    Joe Biden is like someone's elderly uncle that gets confused more often than not. Some of his rallies have really shown up how away with the fairies he can be.

    Trump will have to listen to the CDC. He can say whatever he wants at press conferences but the reality is he isn't a doctor nor is he expected to be. His job right now is to keep the money flowing into healthcare and listen to the advice of those qualified enough to give it. If the US fails we are all f*cked. (Financially speaking)

    Trump is behaving through this exactly as he was expected to by anyone who gave any sort of reasonable scrutiny to him over the last several years and particularly since he announced he was running for President.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    If the UK is riddled with it its only a matter of time before we are too. Aer Lingus operate something like 40 flights a day to and from London and thats just out of Dublin airport. If only 100 people on each flight that's 4000 a day going over and back.
    At a certain stage you'd have to question these flights especially since we don't quarantine those arriving . Our lockdown is a bit of PR exercise at best.

    The UK is less riddled by it than we are. At least if you trust their figures, which I don't fully, but nevertheless I don't trust Ireland either.

    I've been lurking here a while and I must say I am worried about Ireland, Germany and the US more than most other countries. The worldometer site sees no slowdown in the increase in these countries ( particularly visible in the log scale). Theres a ten fold increase every ten day or so, faster in Germany in fact.

    The Italian and Spanish curve is beginning to flatten. The increases are still happening but the rate of the increase in slowing.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Trump is behaving through this exactly as he was expected to by anyone who gave any sort of reasonable scrutiny to him over the last several years and particularly since he announced he was running for President.

    Yes he is behaving the same as he always has. That's his personality. The man is over 70 . He won't be changing. I think we all know this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,996 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    https://twitter.com/OxfordDiplomat/status/1240776914693951496?s=20

    UK really are desperate with not testing people even if they end up in hospital!

    To be fair that tweet is two days old and they are ramping up testing now to 25,000 a day eventually.

    However it has been a major complaint of mine about the UK strategy, more so than the delay in closing schools.

    Test, test, test...there are so many potential benefits with testing as many people as possible.

    Even 25,000 tests a day isn't enough, they should be doing 100,000 tests a day. People need to know if they have had it and have recovered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭Reckless Abandonment


    Why are the airports still open. Who's travelling??
    Anyone wanting to go home or come surely has done it already?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    SusanC10 wrote: »
    Butcher down home is doing free delivery to surrounding areas. Has his 2 sons in 2 vans dropping to people. My Mum is getting deliveries and I would hate for that to stop.
    You can still trade normally, just need to think differently.
    Say you can take order requests by email/what's app. In Chicago shops offer contactless service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭DevilsHaircut


    Happy4all wrote: »
    We know people recover it's the less fortunate that they can pass it on to is the worry

    Exactly - asymptomatic cases can spread the virus (the recovery is great but not the main take-away I would suggest)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    https://twitter.com/OxfordDiplomat/status/1240776914693951496?s=20

    UK really are desperate with not testing people even if they end up in hospital!

    Only 4,094 people officially diagnosed, the true number has got to be a lot, lot higher than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,922 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Why are the airports still open. Who's travelling??
    Anyone wanting to go home or come surely has done it already?

    Not quite.

    Some still en-route.

    Agree it should be repatriation or exceptional reasons only at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,996 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    FVP3 wrote: »
    The UK is less riddled by it than we are. At least if you trust their figures, which I don't fully, but nevertheless I don't trust Ireland either.

    I've been lurking here a while and I must say I am worried about Ireland, Germany and the US more than most other countries. The worldometer site sees no slowdown in the increase in these countries ( particularly visible in the log scale). Theres a ten fold increase every ten day or so, faster in Germany in fact.

    The Italian and Spanish curve is beginning to flatten. The increases are still happening but the rate of the increase in slowing.

    There are 30 or 40 people dying in the UK every day from it. This, sadly is about to go up, significantly, the UK confirmed case numbers are useless. If you get symptoms you are told to stay at home for 7-14 days...you only get tested you get severe symptoms. Now that is changing, but up to now the UK confirmed cases have been nonsense. Sure the chief medical officer himself admitted a few days ago that there were more like 60,000 cases in the UK. I'd say they have passed 100,000 now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 798 ✭✭✭Snowbiee21


    Well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,698 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Snowbiee21 wrote: »
    Well

    Testing location.....not some sort of quarantine/detention camp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,097 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    FVP3 wrote: »
    The UK is less riddled by it than we are. At least if you trust their figures, which I don't fully, but nevertheless I don't trust Ireland either.

    I've been lurking here a while and I must say I am worried about Ireland, Germany and the US more than most other countries. The worldometer site sees no slowdown in the increase in these countries ( particularly visible in the log scale). Theres a ten fold increase every ten day or so, faster in Germany in fact.

    The Italian and Spanish curve is beginning to flatten. The increases are still happening but the rate of the increase in slowing.

    You have no basis for that load of rubbish. Why not trust our figures? At least we are doing a lot more testing than the UK. It's easy to stay down the worldometer league table by not testing, and thus not confirming, positive cases.

    This type of pontificating without facts is neither clever, enlightening, helpful, nor worth heeding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    One quick question was there any specific announcement that the Dail bar was to close when the rest of them did or is it still open? Can't see any reports either way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Yes : I read somewhere yesterday that the virus hates hot food, so it should be safe to consume (and the packaging should be safe too).
    Regardless if there's a virus or not they should prepare your food in sanitary conditions. I don't go to restaurants because I know they are dirty. I don't eat anything unless it's in sealed packaging and was treated with heat. No raw meat especially (sushi or tartare steak).


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭FVP3


    GM228 wrote: »
    Usually paid for with borrowed money, which then has to be paid back, states don't just print money en masse to pay for things, you run the massive risk of hyperinflation.

    Zimbabwe tried it in 2008, guess what happened - they got hit with hyperinflation, prices rose as much as 231,000,000% in a single year. To put that into perspective, something which cost one Zimbabwean dollar before the inflation would have cost Z$231 million a year later.

    No the money isn't borrowed, its just created. I can't see any reference to Zimbabwe using helicopter money during their time of hyperinflation. In fact theories of hyperinflation being caused by excessive borrowing or printing seem wanting in empirical evidence, like a lot of economics.

    anyway all this is moot in a deflationary period. Imagine instead of deflation of 5%, you add enough money to the money supply to increase inflation by 5%. That gets you back to 0.

    People don't want to believe this, but banks create money all the time, when they issue loans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    This is the second post that has mentioned this but i cant find it.

    Do you have a source?

    Tests for TB are not the same as the procedure for Covid19. The procedures would have to first be validated before use.
    I imagine staff wouldn't be accredited to perform testing on patient samples. There's would be GDPR red tape.

    Agri labs wouldn't have the access to health link, the program that sends patient results electronically from the lab to the GP practice.

    I had an email forwarded to me yesterday by a former colleague now at Teagasc saying that DAFM were looking for experienced lab staff to work at two locations, one a govt lab and the other a govt-accredited commercial lab, with work under supervision from DAFM & NVRL.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Do you think this is comparable? Do you think that the jobs will be there if we don't do something now?

    We have to have a balance though. I dont see an issue with a few races happening. There are no spectators at these races and it could keep thousands of people in jobs and provide even more with some sort of release when they are stuck at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,922 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    pH wrote: »
    One quick question was there any specific announcement that the Dail bar was to close when the rest of them did or is it still open? Can't see any reports either way.

    Let us know if you find out.
    I have a bit of lobbying to do.
    Could tog out Monday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭frillyleaf


    BluePlanet wrote: »
    Testing should NOT be restricted to those showing symptoms.

    I'm listening to RTE One and this doctor is talking to Brendan.
    Ireland are making the SAME MISTAKES that Italy and Spain have made.

    Most virus shedding occurs before symptoms and during the 1st week of symptoms.


    https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-most-contagious-before-during-first-week-symptoms

    Yes people without symptoms are potentially more dangerous:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    I'm not making a joke outta it.
    Self - Isolate now as I'm coming to get u

    There have been 4 or 5 new users with Covid\Corona virus usernames banned on here for stupidity and crimes against humour since February.

    You think you're the first? Your song list has been doing the rounds for weeks. Give your mammy back her mobile phone like a good child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭jobeenfitz


    Strazdas wrote: »
    I was reading what Spanish supermarkets are like at the moment : customers wearing gloves, tape and markings on the floor, people 2m apart, paying by credit card ......in other words, identical to Ireland.

    The Irish social distancing measures are much stricter than the 'lockdown now' guys realise, they've somehow convinced themselves we are being lax here.

    Well there is a big difference, you can't leave apartment here in Spain unless you need shop or medical assistance. I'm a 5 min walk to beach and would love to go there.

    Im not complaining, I'm here until June and I hope to see the beach again before then. Yes there are similarities but what yee have back home is different to lockdown.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,851 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Something to cheer ye's up or just a bit of humour amongst the heaviness.

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    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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