CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

Hobgoblin11 · 21-03-2020 12:09PM

if china gets reinfected we are all screwed

c.p.w.g.w · 21-03-2020 12:10PM

Snowbiee21 wrote: »

Idiots in jervis st queuing outside jd for a pair of shoes during a global pandemic . No social distancing what’s so ever

I tend to find the type of person who shops in JD are the types of get all their news from Facebook and Mary in their Local Spar/Centra etc

retro:electro · 21-03-2020 12:11PM

Reading the “have you been tested” thread doesn’t fill me with hope. Loads of people showing symptoms waiting to be tested, some waiting for nearly two weeks. We are way behind the curve in terms of numbers.

Longing · 21-03-2020 12:11PM

Indonisia 450 cases and out of that 38 have died. Horrific.

amadangomor · 21-03-2020 12:11PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

Exactly. If you wear a face mask and the barber wears a face mask , and neither of you are coughing and spluttering , you should be both ok.

Sorry but this post is a load of BS. Wake up to the situation we are now facing.

GM228 · 21-03-2020 12:11PM

smelly sock wrote: »

Or BandQ staff and customers.

I believe they have no covid 19 measures in place in Liffey Valley. I mean zero. Tills operating as normal and narrow aisles packed.

Well done lads.

Plenty of places still like that, but slowly starting to change.

owlbethere · 21-03-2020 12:12PM

Discodog wrote: »

Has anyone seen any explanation for why symptoms & outcomes are so varied ? It really feels like there are several strains.

The same thing happens during the initial phase of a hiv infection. Some people newly infected with HIV will develop cold and flu like symptoms within a certain number of days and others don't experience any symptoms.

SoapMcTavish · 21-03-2020 12:12PM

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Thialand is interesting. They had 45 cases about 4 weeks ago . Now its 411 . I wonder how their health system is holding up. Using italy as an example they should be over ran with it by now.

The monkeys took over there ......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22JgHBb-0dg

smelly sock · 21-03-2020 12:12PM

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

I tend to find the type of person who shops in JD are the types of get all their news from Facebook and Mary in their Local Spar/Centra etc

I buy runners in jd. And i have no FB account and dont know any marys.

I find the kind of person who makes generalisations like that are usualy the village busy body themselves giving out the news in the local shop.

c.p.w.g.w · 21-03-2020 12:13PM

GM228 wrote: »

Plenty of places still like that, but slowly starting to change.

Your'd wonder if someone gets seriously ill who is working in those places. Will we start seeing legal action, unsafe workplace environment etc

Hobgoblin11 · 21-03-2020 12:14PM

owlbethere wrote: »

The same thing happens during the initial phase of a hiv infection. Some people newly infected with HIV will develop cold and flu like symptoms within a certain number of days and others don't experience any symptoms.

stating the obvious, but this is so much worse than the HIV pandemic, it cant be transmitted without touch :eek: and Bob Geldof cant even arrange a concert ti save us!

Rob A. Bank · 21-03-2020 12:15PM

mick987 wrote: »

I think all European government are try to do "herd immunity" in some way or another

It's a sad day for western democracies when it seems that Authoritarian regimes can take better care of the health of their people than they can.

Taiwan and South Korea are the only ones who seem to be winning the fight against the virus.

c montgomery · 21-03-2020 12:15PM

smelly sock wrote: »

I buy runners in jd. And i have no FB account and dont know any marys.

I find the kind of person who makes generalisations like that are usualy the village busy body themselves giving out the news in the local shop.

Appropriate username for someone buying footwear in JD ðŸ˜‚

TheChizler · 21-03-2020 12:16PM

This is it wrote: »

https://www2.hse.ie/coronavirus/?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9tbzBRDVARIsAMBplx8NGNvvMnXRpbgHdl8d10QhzD_dk7ayEefCR5P8_Pg-2G2gSqiLx2UaAqRlEALw_wcB

Here you go, do a bit of research.

Yes social distancing is very good general advice, and I'm aware of all that and practice everything outlined there. I have contact dermatitis from washing my hands and I've never had a skin condition before. The only person I've been in contact with in the last week is my partner. Yes I know that technically the safer thing to do is to not get a haircut and will probably avoid one as long as I can.

But should you choose to get a haircut, everyone practices good hygiene, barber wears gloves and a mask, no one coughs or sneezes (I'll admit there's a small chance they might but surely everyone knows to cough properly by now?) but you think there's a risk of transmission worthy of avoiding it altogether, what is the means of transmission you're worried about?

c.p.w.g.w · 21-03-2020 12:16PM

smelly sock wrote: »

I buy runners in jd. And i have no FB account and dont know any marys.

I find the kind of person who makes generalisations like that are usualy the village busy body themselves giving out the news in the local shop.

Facebook is a proxy for all social media in my post, and Mary is a place-name for the local gossip that most local shops tend to have...Mary is a typical Irish name like paddy or mick

Corkgirl20 · 21-03-2020 12:17PM

Seems to be a sudden decline today in country who were having large increases the last few days, such as Switzerland with an increase of 1 , Germany an increase of 251.

I mean it’s great news and I hope it continues but I’m just trying to understand it. I guess we can’t look at each day separately maybe the week as a whole is a better picture of how things are going.

galwaybabe · 21-03-2020 12:17PM

First Post in the Covid threads.

I have a couple of queries that I hope someone can answer.

My daughter has been living in the UK for the last few years and has decided to come home to wait this crisis out over here. She is getting a ferry on Monday.

My queries are as follows :-

1. She would ideally like to get tested as soon as possible when she gets back. Is this possible if she does not have any symptoms? If so, how does she arrange this if she is not registered with a doctor here in Ireland?

2. Should she isolate from me in our home? Bear in mind she has no symptoms.

Thanks in advance
GB

iwillyeah1234 · 21-03-2020 12:19PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

It's a sad day for western democracies when it seems that Authoritarian regimes can take better care of the health of their people than they can.

Taiwan and South Korea are the only ones who seem to be winning the fight against the virus.

Not sure about Taiwan , but the South Koreans are definitely authoritarian when it comes to contact tracing - all of your phone records , bank and card transactions , transport - every electronic trail of your life in order to follow up with potential contacts , so that they can test them. Legal powers introduced after SARS.

Hobgoblin11 · 21-03-2020 12:20PM

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

Seems to be a sudden decline today in country who were having large increases the last few days, such as Switzerland with an increase of 1 , Germany an increase of 251.

I mean it’s great news and I hope it continues but I’m just trying to understand it. I guess we can’t look at each day separately maybe the week as a whole is a better picture of how things are going.

Germany and Switzerland are not very touchy feely like the Latin countries

BluePlanet · 21-03-2020 12:21PM

TheChizler wrote: »

There's a difference between working in a confined space around confirmed cases that are showing symptoms, coughing, spitting up, touching their fluids, cleaning after them, taking bloods, and a local barber.

What is the transfer mechanism?

People infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which causes the disease, may test positive for the virus both before and after they have symptoms. But a new study of nine people who contracted the virus in Germany suggests that people are mainly contagious before they have symptoms and in the first week of the disease.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-most-contagious-before-during-first-week-symptoms

pH · 21-03-2020 12:21PM

Maxpfizer wrote: »

I think there's a real problem with people receiving mixed messages here.
From the government, the media and each other.

If someone with the ability to work from home goes down to Tesco and stocks up a months worth of food then that person can completely isolate themselves for a month. Or they can do it for 2 weeks or 10 days if that seems more reasonable. Either way, stock up for X days and you can have complete social distancing for X days.

So if that person is buying into the idea that it's too dangerous to be around people, or even to be outside at all, then stockpiling is seen as an absolute necessity. Go to Tesco once then stay indoors for 2 weeks, a month, whatever.

Can you really blame them?

Mention on here that you are meeting a friend in the park and you'll get grief from people saying it isn't necessary and you should stay in etc.

At the same time it's fine to go to a busy supermarket every 2 or 3 days because you're also a terrible person if you stock up on 2 weeks worth of food to stay away from others for a two week stretch.

Don't go outside at all!
Also don't buy a months worth of food so that you don't need to go outside!

The only way to stay safe is to stay inside and away from other people!
Also be sure to get yourself down to the supermarket every 4 or 5 days because hoarders are scum.

The media winds people up into a frenzy making every trip outdoors seem like a massive, potentially terminal, risk and then turns right around and rips into people showing up at the supermarket at 6am thinking they will stock up and not need to leave home for a few weeks.

Exactly. Anyone who uses a supermarket regularly will have seen people buying full trolleys to feed a family for a week (maybe even less than a week). Now they're being told to minimise trips out, so how much does 2 or 3 weeks of food look like.

I agree that governments should be giving much clearer advice, clearly people seem incapable of making sensible decisions for themselves.

for example:

Aim to visit a supermarket once per week (don't buy your food every day).
There is no need to buy more than a week's worth of food.
Shop quickly and maintain social distancing, do not bring children if it can be avoided.
Obey all buying limits and instructions given to you by shop staff.

smelly sock · 21-03-2020 12:21PM

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Facebook is a proxy for all social media in my post, and Mary is a place-name for the local gossip that most local shops tend to have...Mary is a typical Irish name like paddy or mick

Ok paddy thanks.

iwillyeah1234 · 21-03-2020 12:23PM

galwaybabe wrote: »

First Post in the Covid threads.

I have a couple of queries that I hope someone can answer.

My daughter has been living in the UK for the last few years and has decided to come home to wait this crisis out over here. She is getting a ferry on Monday.

My queries are as follows :-

1. She would ideally like to get tested as soon as possible when she gets back. Is this possible if she does not have any symptoms? If so, how does she arrange this if she is not registered with a doctor here in Ireland?

2. Should she isolate from me in our home? Bear in mind she has no symptoms.

Thanks in advance
GB

The crisis could go on for months. She’s taking a risk , and she might not be able to get back to Britain.

MadYaker · 21-03-2020 12:23PM

galwaybabe wrote: »

First Post in the Covid threads.

I have a couple of queries that I hope someone can answer.

My daughter has been living in the UK for the last few years and has decided to come home to wait this crisis out over here. She is getting a ferry on Monday.

My queries are as follows :-

1. She would ideally like to get tested as soon as possible when she gets back. Is this possible if she does not have any symptoms? If so, how does she arrange this if she is not registered with a doctor here in Ireland?

2. Should she isolate from me in our home? Bear in mind she has no symptoms.

Thanks in advance
GB

All the info you need is here https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/coronavirus.html

Cork Boy 53 · 21-03-2020 12:23PM

Kaisr Sose wrote: »

There is no way they can go ahead here. Its monumentally stupid that the IOC has not called time on this already.

Best case scenario is that they will be postponed until the autumn maybe a similar timespan to the RWC last year. At worst they will be cancelled altogether and there will not be an Olympic Games again until 2024.

TheChizler · 21-03-2020 12:24PM

amadangomor wrote: »

We are told to socially isolate for a reason.

Barber is not trained to use PPE properly, maybe he is using the same mask all day, mask could be not on properly. Maybe he rubs his nose after washing his hands. Money can be a way of transmission. If someone coughs on the seat and the next customer is sitting there.

Millions of ways it can be transmitted in a barbers.

Thanks hadn't thought of money. Even them touching their nose I personally wouldn't be to worried about as long as they don't touch your eyes or mouth tbh. What there wouldn't be likely solved by a good wash when you get home?

I'm not trying to be difficult here or encourage people to ignore social distancing by the way. I'm genuinely curious about how people can contract the virus.

rob316 · 21-03-2020 12:24PM

Don't buy 2 weeks worth of shopping as its going to be processed ****e. Shop twice a week, buy fresh, learn to cook decent meals many have the time now. Eating well, will boost your immune system and general health if you catch this.

Level 5 Vegan · 21-03-2020 12:25PM

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

Seems to be a sudden decline today in country who were having large increases the last few days, such as Switzerland with an increase of 1 , Germany an increase of 251.

I mean it’s great news and I hope it continues but I’m just trying to understand it. I guess we can’t look at each day separately maybe the week as a whole is a better picture of how things are going.

They update multiple times per day.

MadYaker · 21-03-2020 12:26PM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

The crisis could go on for months. She’s taking a risk , and she might not be able to get back to Britain.

I've been wondering about this. Obvoiusly not many flights now but surely you'd always be able to go up to Belfast and get a boat across? Irish Ferries appear to still be running also?

Hobgoblin11 · 21-03-2020 12:27PM

Kenny Rogers clearly said enough is enough

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51986611

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP