CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

Jin luk · 21-03-2020 10:42AM

GM228 wrote: »

HIV was actually the last major pandemic, though it was later reclassified as an epidemic by the WHO due to the widespread distribution of effective treatment.

Its an infection threw blood completly different

Couldnt compare covid 19 with hiv

ceadaoin. · 21-03-2020 10:43AM

mloc123 wrote: »

Talking to work colleagues in Chicago yesterday... "Lockdown" as they are calling it is basically what we have had here all week.

Yeah it's not lockdown at all and it's not really being called that. Just restrictions on socializing really.

threeball · 21-03-2020 10:44AM

Jin luk wrote: »

During the 1918 pandemic young people was a big fatality,

Was that like that from the the very start of it or did this start to happen after high numbers were infected and hospitals and field hospital were overcrowded??

High numbers of young people died ironically due to their strong immune system. It fought the flu so hard it created a cytokine storm. (Basically white blood cells dying in vast numbers within the body) which actually poisons the body. Their greatest asset was actually a negative in this case.

BluePlanet · 21-03-2020 10:47AM

Spain: Back from supermarket (Mercadona).

Shelves are stocked which is a relief but social distancing is out the window.
Too many ppl being let in the store, cash being used at the til.
Cashier not using sanitizer between shoppers.
Lots of ppl just out and about.
We are fecked.

skellig_rocks · 21-03-2020 10:47AM

Bob24 wrote: »

Yeah I didn’t say anything different. My point was that Trump started blaming China (and Europe) for the US’ failure to handle the situation before that tweet.

So it isn’t necessarily China which kicked-off the blaming game (which btw in my opinion makes both sides look rather silly).

Yeah I agree, but you need two people to have an argument and China is also playing their part in "shifting the blame" and "divert their domestic problems to US".

Bob24 · 21-03-2020 10:48AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Yeah it's not lockdown at all and it's not really being called that. Just restrictions on socializing really.

Indeed. But I think both us in Ireland and some areas in the US will soon be subject to more restrictions.

I might be wrong but with how they’ve handled it to date I think the US is probably full of local clusters ready to erupt all across the country, and which will lead to a lot more restrictions.

Jin luk · 21-03-2020 10:49AM

threeball wrote: »

High numbers of young people died ironically due to their strong immune system. It fought the flu so hard it created a cytokine storm. (Basically white blood cells dying in vast numbers within the body) which actually poisons the body. Their greatest asset was actually a negative in this case.

So is this cytokine storm not happening with covid? And if it not could it mutate to do so?

threeball · 21-03-2020 10:50AM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Dont worry it'll be over soon. God just got the call

The-Pope-says-asked-God-stop-coronavirus-epidemic

Why the delay. Should have got on the blower weeks ago.

_Kaiser_ · 21-03-2020 10:50AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Yeah it's not lockdown at all and it's not really being called that. Just restrictions on socializing really.

I wouldn't say its very effective in even that sense. Was out for a spin around the town yesterday and everyone seemed to be just doing their daily business with little regard for distancing. Few women wearing scarves over their faces but that's about all. Shops and streets as busy as usual.

On some practicalities.. How are people approaching things like getting a haircut, getting tyres for their cars or a service - all of which I need

- given that a lot of businesses are shutting down now

ceadaoin. · 21-03-2020 10:54AM

Bob24 wrote: »

Indeed. But I think both us in Ireland and some areas in the US will soon be subject to more restrictions.

I might be wrong but with how they’ve handled it to date I think the US is probably full of local clusters ready to erupt all across the country, and which will lead to a lot more restrictions.

Yes, definitely.

I mean where I live its pretty much at the maximum restrictions. Everything is closed except groceries, medicine, food, hardwares and fuel. It's not that bad. Life goes on. I'm not sure what further restrictions they could put in place?

threeball · 21-03-2020 10:54AM

Jin luk wrote: »

So is this cytokine storm not happening with covid? And if it not could it mutate to do so?

Not to the same level. As you see, most have mild symptoms which means the body kills it before it really takes hold so the immune system doesn't go overboard. Older or immunocompromised people it gets a hold in and builds up. Hence the long gestation period and prevalence in these groups.

Gynoid · 21-03-2020 10:54AM

https://twitter.com/andrewdoyle_com/status/1241220104953704449?s=20

It looks like Madonna is struggling with the lock down/shut in/isolation/whatever it is. Goodness me.

threeball · 21-03-2020 10:56AM

Jin luk wrote: »

So is this cytokine storm not happening with covid? And if it not could it mutate to do so?

These things can always mutate but hopefully not. A mix of being so easily transmissible and more aggressive is something we don't want to contemplate

threeball · 21-03-2020 10:56AM

Jin luk wrote: »

So is this cytokine storm not happening with covid? And if it not could it mutate to do so?

These things can always mutate but hopefully not. A mix of being so easily transmissible and more aggressive is something we don't want to contemplate

Boggles · 21-03-2020 10:58AM

Gynoid wrote: »

It looks like Madonna is struggling with the lock down/shut in/isolation/whatever it is. Goodness me.

Is that Madonna?

Thought she could sing and didn't have a face like an over inflated life raft?

Ninthlife · 21-03-2020 10:58AM

Duke of Url wrote: »

https://twitter.com/thakhani_r/status/1241287570077728769?s=21

Sometimes in a crisis you need an individual like Putin in charge.

No bullsh*t, not afraid to make hard decisions.

iwillyeah1234 · 21-03-2020 10:59AM

Gynoid wrote: »

https://twitter.com/andrewdoyle_com/status/1241220104953704449?s=20

It looks like Madonna is struggling with the lock down/shut in/isolation/whatever it is. Goodness me.

Which kind of proves they don’t actually make their own music. I’d bet Pharrell Williams or Billie Elish or Daft Punk are doing just fine in their internet connected home studios.

Andrea B. · 21-03-2020 11:00AM

Ninthlife wrote: »

Sometimes in a crisis you need an individual like Putin in charge.

No bullsh*t, not afraid to make hard decisions.

Crowd still here on Adverts scaremongering and profiteering.

Ninthlife · 21-03-2020 11:02AM

Andrea B. wrote: »

Crowd still here on Adverts scaremongering and profiteering.

Putin would have them found an example be made of them.. no more of that carry on

amadangomor · 21-03-2020 11:03AM

Ninthlife wrote: »

Sometimes in a crisis you need an individual like Putin in charge.

No bullsh*t, not afraid to make hard decisions.

He's the person who said who cares about global warming as it will make Russia warmer. So on the BS front he is front and centre.

iwillyeah1234 · 21-03-2020 11:03AM

Did some calculations this morning on the relative size of coronavirus.

If you scaled a corona up to the average size of a human , then the height of an average human would be from Ireland to ... Australia.

In short - a corona landing on a human , is ( roughly) equivalent to Armstrong on the moon. That’s how incredibly small these things are.

Bob24 · 21-03-2020 11:03AM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

I wouldn't say its very effective in even that sense. Was out for a spin around the town yesterday and everyone seemed to be just doing their daily business with little regard for distancing. Few women wearing scarves over their faces but that's about all. Shops and streets as busy as usual.

On some practicalities.. How are people approaching things like getting a haircut, getting tyres for their cars or a service - all of which I need - given that a lot of businesses are shutting down now

Agree with you. Unfortunately a majority of people in most Western countries only tend to start taking it very seriously once they are scared. Behaviours will change once our hospitals are maxed-out and we start getting report of dozens of people dying everyday.

Had a haircut last weekend to make sure I’m fine for a while if we all need to stay in our caves for a while :-) But I think both myself and the hairdresser were not 100% at ease. Good thing though is that usually the barber shop is packed with people with 3 of them having a haircut and 4 or 5 waiting in a tiny shop, but it was actually just me and one hairdresser with no wait plus we didn’t do much talking and she was wearing gloves and using plenty of disinfectant gel - so in the end it was fine. But I think they might be closing now (they have very limited business anyway).

Andrea B. · 21-03-2020 11:05AM

Ninthlife wrote: »

Putin would have them found an example be made of them.. no more of that carry on

He's still dodgy.
Easier option is for Adverts and other sites to ban it,/or set a max price for any mask or per ml of santiser..

Widdensushi · 21-03-2020 11:05AM

iwillyeah1234 wrote: »

Did some calculations this morning on the relative size of coronavirus.

If you scaled a corona up to the average size of a human , then the height of an average human would be from Ireland to ... Australia.

In short - a corona landing on a human , is ( roughly) equivalent to Armstrong on the moon. That’s how incredibly small these things are.

busy morning

Bob24 · 21-03-2020 11:07AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I mean where I live its pretty much at the maximum restrictions. Everything is closed except groceries, medicine, food, hardwares and fuel. It's not that bad. Life goes on. I'm not sure what further restrictions they could put in place?

Something like a complete ban from leaving your home except for the purpose of grocery shopping maximum twice a week and only at the closest shop from your home, or for medical reasons.

But I guess that would only be in an extreme situation. But of course between high population density areas and the countryside, things are a bit different.

Mr_Muffin · 21-03-2020 11:08AM

How serious is this virus?

amadangomor · 21-03-2020 11:08AM

Andrea B. wrote: »

He's still dodgy.
Easier option is for Adverts and other sites to ban it,/or set a max price for any mask or per ml of santiser..

Totally dodgy. He will probably blame it on gay people, not the person we would want in charge at all. People need to think about the stuff they spout.

20silkcut · 21-03-2020 11:08AM

harr wrote: »

You just have to look at the housing in Italy to see why it was probably a major factor . Narrow streets and high blocks of apartments and it seems a lot of people live in theses especially the older population.

Yes just looking at those videos of Italians singing etc at home they are literally living on top of each other even in lockdown. If one of them sneezes in the top balcony it’s straight down on to the people below.

iwillyeah1234 · 21-03-2020 11:08AM

Mr_Muffin wrote: »

How serious is this virus?

As serious as cancer.

Widdensushi · 21-03-2020 11:09AM

Gynoid wrote: »

https://twitter.com/andrewdoyle_com/status/1241220104953704449?s=20

It looks like Madonna is struggling with the lock down/shut in/isolation/whatever it is. Goodness me.

promoting fish anyway, I wonder how much it costs to get her to promote a product like that if she was actually asked to ?

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP