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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    statto25 wrote: »
    Is that not the day the ice age ended?

    Marathon became snickers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Swab didn't go up far enough on Tubridy

    Went further than Claire Bryne


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Reati wrote: »
    Least we'll be spared the glorious twelfth.
    In fairness OO cancelled all assemblies on 17th answering BoJo's call.

    Don't quite believe their time horizon encompassed the 12th.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    dublin99 wrote: »
    It's pretty simple, sanitise hands before putting on mask, sanitise before and after taking off mask (without touching outside and dispose of properly). School children in Asia (where masks are mandatory) can do it, so can you!

    Please don't jeer or make rude comments at people wearing masks. They may look young and healthy to you, but may well suffer from chronic illness like MS (and taking meds that cause them to be immuno-compromised) or are recovering from cancer/chemo or is a carer for an ill person or just suffer anxiety and feel safer if they use a mask! It's a free world.


    Sorry, I agree with you 100%. Check my previous posts. That's my attempt at being sarcastic. I was horrified when someone suggested jeering people who choose to wear one. I tried to reason with them but wasn't working.
    What if the person has a condition and has been recommended to wear one by a doctor? Do you think they should be jeered on the street? Should you check with them first before hand?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭GetWithIt


    Blaze420 wrote: »
    The only thing that will stop it is the virus starting to cut down guys in the 18-26 range, once that happens these thick ***** might start paying attention to it. Alternatively we can follow Coveneys advice and deal punishment beatings to any of them found in groups of 3 or more.
    You’ve thinking about it all wrong. All you need to do is convince the females of that generation to isolate. Once the guys see that it’s a sausage fest out there, they’ll be back in onto the PlayStation


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Some of the people who attended the Croke Park Centre discarded their masks out the window on the streets around Croke Park when finished.

    ****ing animals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,145 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    wakka12 wrote: »
    It sounds like youre disputing..theyre not 'my figures' its just what it is lol.

    I do understand your figures, I'm just adding to your point that I think a lot more than 700 or so were infected on the ship but just didnt test positive. I'm hopeful the actual mortality is a lot lower than 1.2%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,152 ✭✭✭BKtje


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Many joe soap have autoimmune disorders, heath problems and up in the upper age bracket and therefore at higher risk of complications if they get the virus. So if they wear proper masks etc are the not doing everyone a favour by protecting themselves by keeping themselves out of hospitals for as long as possible.
    The vast majority of people are healthy and it is they who my post is aimed at. There are lots of people here in Switzerland wearing face masks where the general message is the same as elsewhere. You do not need to wear a mask unless you are at risk in which case you should stay isolated as much as possible. If you do need to go outside protect yourself as needed. It is not at these at risk people who the no need for a face mask is aimed at. It's at the generally healthy populace who are using face masks and may one day force a front line worker or a person at risk to go without.
    People have to go out to the shops for essentials they cannot guarantee someone hasn't shed the virus onto some surface, you even said it there is a low risk but there is still a risk.
    Surface contamination is not protected by a mask any better than a towel covering your face and regular washing of your hands. It is impossible to eliminate risk in our world, even before this pandemic.
    If people are in that high risk category let them wear masks even if they are the low grade ones. Enough people worried as it and and even if a piece of paper gives them a bit of comfort let it.
    Who am I to tell people what to do. I'm no one in the grand scheme of things. People were wondering why face masks weren't recommended when medical professionals use them and I attempted to explain. What people decide to do now is up to them. I just hope that in Ireland, Switzerland and any other country that there won't be a severe shortage of face masks. I think it's unlikely but I'm not an expert on their manufacture nor logistical supply.

    What does worry me is people are overconfident when wearing a mask or using them incorrectly. Most are a single use item and would then need to be binned. I don't know how many people that wear them actually do that? They must have an enormous supply of them.

    A quick google on the subject gives this or here. Front line staff are ALREADY reusing them and thus risking themselves and their patients. Those links are for the US but I guess it's a similar situation in many countries.

    What would help more for front line staff would be practice social distancing, stay indoors while waiting for results, cover when coughing and stop bulk buying.
    What would really help front line staff is to do all that and not unnecessarily wear masks. It's not an either or situation. We should try to do everything that we are told until this is beaten and then we can return to doing whatever we want.

    I don't know what it is like in Ireland but Switzerland social distancing is being practiced by most though there are always plenty of idiots. That doesn't mean staying inside but just keeping a 2m gap between you and others who you don't live with. Unless of course your sick or at risk in which case into full isolation/quarantine with you.

    I don't see the big problem with bulk buying per se. It reassures people that they are prepared. Certainly less of an issue than wearing face masks without a good reason in my opinion. The shelves are being restocked and once everyone has finished stocking up well then that will be the end of it. It's an inconvenience more than anything. No one is going hungry.

    My goal with these posts are not to give out to people who wear masks but rather to hopefully make them think, "Am i really at risk", "Do I need to wear this" or should this be saved for someone who really needs it. Each person will have to decide this for themselves.

    Stay safe out there everyone and once more I'm no expert! :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Went passed the 3 Arena today load of ambulance service vehicles outside and people outside wearing masks. Im guessing that's being used as a test centre aswell as Croke Park.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    whodafunk wrote: »
    Excuse my ignorance but saw the video in Italy today - very serious situation and people of all ages hit with it. Do they have a different strain of it? Reason I ask eg: Dr Ciara Kelly did not require hospital treatment?
    Dr Ciara Kelly illness started on Saturday and by Sunday evening she had her diagnosis. She says a man came to her house “in a hazmat suit” on Sunday morning and got the results later that day. Dr Ciara said it started with a headache, and a sore throat that developed into a cough. When she began experiencing a burning feeling from the back of her throat and nose to the back of her lungs, she thought to herself, “I don’t know this, I don’t recognise it, it’s nothing like I’ve had in my life – is it Corona?” And it was.
    Other symptoms were “the sweats and chills” and a tightness in her chest. Now, she says she still has a dull ache in her house “most of the time.”
    She said it was like having “a fairly lousy dose – but manageable.”Dr Ciara was being treated at home, taking paracetamol and solpadine “when paracetamol was not enough”.
    Her go-to treatment was MiWadi orange, paracetamol and rest. And maybe a sneaky hot toddy, taken yesterday. Well it was St Patrick’s Day, after all!
    Dr Ciara says that symptoms tend to peak at day 7 – 9, but those who get it are still infectious even after they begin to feel well. After that, coronavirus patients need to continue to self-isolate for 7 – 14 days.
    When her illness passes, Dr Ciara says she is going to start seeing patients again – saying “it’s time.”

    I think she has mild asthma also


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    GetWithIt wrote: »
    You’ve thinking about it all wrong. All you need to do is convince the females of that generation to isolate. Once the guys see that it’s a sausage fest out there, they’ll be back in onto the PlayStation

    Hard to tell what’s what with this generation so that won’t work :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Shoes and Boots


    Excellent communication and reassuring really. Explained everything very well
    Telling what ? Only 120 cases per day,when yesterday was 190 ????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,753 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    If Tubs tests positives that means the man in charge of all this has to go in to isolation :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    When will we return to normal does anyone know?

    14th of May according to Marcella from Darndale, her fellas brothers dogs cousin is in the guards so he has all the inside goss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    niallo27 wrote: »
    I do understand your figures, I'm just adding to your point that I think a lot more than 700 or so were infected on the ship but just didnt test positive. I'm hopeful the actual mortality is a lot lower than 1.2%.

    Perhaps some..but I doubt so many that it would change the statistic in any major way..I think if there were that many false negatives occurring it would be a recognised phenomena by now especially we would see the relaitves and social circles of many people that tested 'negative' getting the infection themselves and so it would be quickly recognised that many people are falsely testing negative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭ziggyman17


    fritzelly wrote: »
    If Tubs tests positives that means the man in charge of all this has to go in to isolation :eek:

    Do not give up your day job.............Comedy is not for you........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,145 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    fritzelly wrote: »
    If Tubs tests positives that means the man in charge of all this has to go in to isolation :eek:

    I'm willing to accept that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 790 ✭✭✭forgodssake


    My friends 17 year old son tried to go out last night to meet his mates ...my friends reaction ..He went upstairs and packed all his sons clothes , handed the bag to him and told him if he left the house he could stay gone !. Needless to stay the young fella stayed in. We need more discipline towards our youth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    whodafunk wrote: »
    Excuse my ignorance but saw the video in Italy today - very serious situation and people of all ages hit with it. Do they have a different strain of it? Reason I ask eg: Dr Ciara Kelly did not require hospital treatment?

    Most people will only have minor to moderate symptoms. Mind you, she said she felt pretty miserable for a few days.

    I had been thinking Italy may have got a more potent variant but nothing reported and i am sure the virus genome has been cross referenced against the Chinese genome.

    It may just be that they have a higher % of elderly people than linked to being a hot spot with concentrated cases. If this is the case, if Florida, the retirement state, were to get a similar occurrence, it is going to be pretty impactful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Shoes and Boots


    My friends 17 year old son tried to go out last night to meet his mates ...my friends reaction ..He went upstairs and packed all his sons clothes , handed the bag to him and told him if he left the house he could stay gone !. Needless to stay the young fella stayed in. We need more discipline towards our youth.
    Kidz are mirror of them parents.He is what parents gave him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,028 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    whodafunk wrote: »
    Excuse my ignorance but saw the video in Italy today - very serious situation and people of all ages hit with it. Do they have a different strain of it? Reason I ask eg: Dr Ciara Kelly did not require hospital treatment?

    Most people will only have minor to moderate symptoms. Mind you, she said she felt pretty miserable for a few days.

    I had been thinking Italy may have got a more potent variant but nothing reported and i am sure the virus genome has been cross referenced against the Chinese genome.

    It may just be that they have a higher % of elderly people than linked to being a hot spot with concentrated cases. If this is the case, if Florida, the retirement state, were to get a similar occurrence, it is going to be pretty impactful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,145 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Perhaps some..but I doubt so many that it would change the statistic in any major way..I think if there were that many false negatives occurring it would be a recognised phenomena by now especially we would see the relaitves and social circles of many people that tested 'negative' getting the infection themselves and so it would be quickly recognised that many people are falsely testing negative.

    Or that some people are just naturally immune to it and can fight it easily and will never test positive for it at all. That's my hope and I dont think its thats crazy of a theory.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    BKtje wrote: »
    The vast majority of people are healthy and it is they who my post is aimed at. There are lots of people here in Switzerland wearing face masks where the general message is the same as elsewhere. You do not need to wear a mask unless you are at risk in which case you should stay isolated as much as possible. If you do need to go outside protect yourself as needed. It is not at these at risk people who the no need for a face mask is aimed at. It's at the generally healthy populace who are using face masks and may one day force a front line worker or a person at risk to go without.


    Surface contamination is not protected by a mask any better than a towel covering your face and regular washing of your hands. It is impossible to eliminate risk in our world, even before this pandemic.


    Who am I to tell people what to do. I'm no one in the grand scheme of things. People were wondering why face masks weren't recommended when medical professionals use them and I attempted to explain. What people decide to do now is up to them. I just hope that in Ireland, Switzerland and any other country that there won't be a severe shortage of face masks. I think it's unlikely but I'm not an expert on their manufacture nor logistical supply.

    What does worry me is people are overconfident when wearing a mask or using them incorrectly. Most are a single use item and would then need to be binned. I don't know how many people that wear them actually do that? They must have an enormous supply of them.

    A quick google on the subject gives this or here. Front line staff are ALREADY reusing them and thus risking themselves and their patients. Those links are for the US but I guess it's a similar situation in many countries.



    What would really help front line staff is to do all that and not unnecessarily wear masks. It's not an either or situation. We should try to do everything that we are told until this is beaten and then we can return to doing whatever we want.

    I don't know what it is like in Ireland but Switzerland social distancing is being practiced by most though there are always plenty of idiots. That doesn't mean staying inside but just keeping a 2m gap between you and others who you don't live with. Unless of course your sick or at risk in which case into full isolation/quarantine with you.

    I don't see the big problem with bulk buying per se. It reassures people that they are prepared. Certainly less of an issue than wearing face masks without a good reason in my opinion. The shelves are being restocked and once everyone has finished stocking up well then life goes on. It's an inconvenience more than anything.

    My goal with these posts are not to give out to people who wear masks but rather to hopefully make them think, "Am i really at risk", "Do I need to wear this" or should this be saved for someone who really needs it. Each person will have to decide this for themselves.

    Stay safe out there everyone and once more I'm no expert! :)

    I'm in broad agreement. It's a numbers game. Just because there is a chronic shortage of masks globally doesn't mean we should tell people they are not effective in reducing risk. That is immoral in my book.

    The US is screwed on this front. Switzerland has mandatory military conscription and everyone who has gone through that training as far as I know is trained how to use a respirator. Would be pointless training them to use them for a war situation then say they don't work during a pandemic. Wouldn't fly. It's as much about public perception / understanding.

    I think the government should be repurposing industry right not to manufacture them, if needed. Germany has banned export of PPE equipment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Telling what ? Only 120 cases per day,when yesterday was 190 ????

    He gave detail behind the modeling process, and discussed social distancing.

    If that's the only detail you took out of what he said then rewatch it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Sharon Corr, I want to hear from Jim


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Shoes and Boots


    By mr Holohan today information,there will be no corona in Ireland in about 1 week time guys ! Yesterday 190 cases,today 120,tomorrow 60,day after tomorrow 0 and after -50,-120,-200.We will back to normal in about week time,that is the Leo plan !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    By mr Holohan today information,there will be no corona in Ireland in about 1 week time guys ! Yesterday 190 cases,today 120,tomorrow 60,day after tomorrow 0 and after -50,-120,-200.We will back to normal in about week time,that is the Leo plan !

    ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,579 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    By mr Holohan today information,there will be no corona in Ireland in about 1 week time guys ! Yesterday 190 cases,today 120,tomorrow 60,day after tomorrow 0 and after -50,-120,-200.We will back to normal in about week time,that is the Leo plan !

    What utter crap are you rambling on with


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭TTLF
    save the trouble and jazz it up


    I think it was an attempt at a joke?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Or that some people are just naturally immune to it and can fight it easily and will never test positive for it at all. That's my hope and I dont think its thats crazy of a theory.
    How can one have natural immunity to a new virus, other than being born to a mother with acquired immunity?


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