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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • #6152
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    It looks like we our on the Italian track. We've implemented a half arse lock down and we will get similar results.
    Lock down is inevitable. Unfortunately by the time we realise this health system overwhelmed.
    Italy deploying army now to enforce lockdown at the behest of the health ministry.
    I'm not some lunatic I just feel we have a duty of care towards the elderly in society. They paid their dues.
    To be clear I'm not some sadist who wants austerity. The government can print as much money as they want. Instead of giving it to banks so they can give to us +5% they can give to those most affected. FFS even trump is doing, Hong Kong did it.
    We are all in the **** together. We owe it to the health service workers who will have to face the consequence of these decisions despite overwhelming evidence.


  • #6153
    mick987
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭mick987


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Its not really

    Every other treatment has been cancelled....i know of 2 people who were due to start cancer treatment,who have been put back until end of june and their fcuking terrified
    Yes I have my operation put back for at least 6 months, not life or death so no problem with that.


  • #6154
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Bigboldworld wrote: »
    Is there any reason why they haven’t released the age of the third person to die?

    Protecting their identity. They will give stats when the numbers increase.


  • #6155
    john_doe.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭john_doe.


    fritzelly wrote: »
    So yer wan on Twitter was full of BS

    So someone with no underlying health condition has died. Unclear of age group.


  • #6156
    Corkgirl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Corkgirl20


    growleaves wrote: »
    Er wonder why hasn't he already confronted this group of youths? Since that's what he's advocating.

    Very strange.

    I’m actually totally wrong , he doesn’t live in my estate. The reason I thought he did was a good few years ago he drove the same car as my dad and I got into his car by my house thinking it was my dads ( it wasn’t locked). Simon walked towards the car the same time as my dad both laughing and I’ve never got over the shame, anyway Simon lives on a farm.

    In saying that he would have to drive passed these teens to get out of his house.


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  • #6157
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    How much of it is people on trolleys being moved into wards vacated by the cancellation of routine operations.

    I’d reckon that routine procedures are being cancelled to free up staff for covid.. No staff, no bed for non emergencies.

    Emergencies will always be looked after though.


  • #6158
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    CVC19 victim?

    I don`t think so.


  • #6159
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Why the **** is a test being waster on yer man on late late show?


  • #6160
    Shelly66
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭Shelly66


    Late late just started good info on it tonight about covid


  • #6161
    Nermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Nermal


    banie01 wrote: »
    If the mortality rate at the end of all this does pan out to be 0.8% but our health service collapsed as our resources were overwhelmed despite everything we have been thrown at it?

    Does that lessen the impact of the virus?
    Does it mean we should reduce the action taken?

    It means our actions should have been totally different. Only high-risk groups should be self-isolating.


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  • #6162
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Corkgirl20 wrote: »
    I’m actually totally wrong , he doesn’t live in my estate. The reason I thought he did was a good few years ago he drove the same car as my dad and I got into his car by my house thinking it was my dads ( it wasn’t locked). Simon walked towards the car the same time as my dad both laughing and I’ve never got over the shame, anyway Simon lives on a farm.




    That story made me smile.


  • #6163
    Blaze420
    Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Why the **** is a test being waster on yer man on late late show?

    I’d say it’s to show the public what’s involved, it’s only 1 test ffs so calm down


  • #6164
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Why the **** is a test being waster on yer man on late late show?

    And if it comes back positive...


  • #6165
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Does any know of, or have a link to, reports of any country doing randomised testing on statistically valid random population sampling?

    There is an appalling absence of hard data on which to base decisions at present given the progress of this outbreak.


  • #6166
    moonlighting_1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭moonlighting_1


    627 deaths in one day in Italy, highest toll since outbreak

    https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/italy-coronavirus-deaths-surge-by-627-in-a-day-lifting-total-death-toll-to-4032


  • #6167
    Tony EH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,708 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Why the **** is a test being waster on yer man on late late show?

    At least it wasn't one for everybody in the audience. :pac:


  • #6168
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    12 in ICU is a doubling from yesterday right?

    How many of these does it take to put the system under pressure?

    Anyone know?

    Could we couple with a couple of hundred?


  • #6169
    redarmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭redarmy


    A deal is imminent to convert Citywest Hotel in west Dublin into a life saving health campus. Built by the late businessman Jim Mansfield, the hotel is strategically located and has 756 rooms.


  • #6170
    autumnbelle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭autumnbelle


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    12 in ICU is a doubling from yesterday right?

    How many of these does it take to put the system under pressure?

    Anyone know?

    Could we couple with a couple of hundred?
    244


  • #6171
    banie01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,817 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Nermal wrote: »
    It means our actions should have been totally different. Only high-risk groups should be self-isolating.

    How do you propose that manage that segregation?
    And there is plenty of evidence becoming available that the original cry of elderly and co-morbidities is a little premature.

    Lots of info coming from Italy, Spain, France and the US showing a far lower average age of hospitalised patients.
    The older and already ill are more vulnerable , but noone is invulnerable to this virus and as time passes it's becoming clearer that all age groups above 25 carry a risk, and that risk grows with age and co-morbidities.


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  • #6172
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Blaze420 wrote: »
    I’d say it’s to show the public what’s involved, it’s only 1 test ffs so calm down

    That test could be used on my asthmatic Neighbour who’s been waiting since Wednesday. Her doctor said she probably has it.


  • #6173
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Nah this is just not true. A ninth passenger on the cruise died today, that is about 1.2% mortality rate and is by far the closest sample we have to any true mortality rate. When have nine passengers ever died on a cruise because of say a flu outbreak..? Never..nobody is over reacting to this, it is getting the reaction it that is needed

    It depends how you get your figures. There was nearly 4700 people on the cruise with only nearly 700 testing positive. Now its impossible only 700 got it as it was rampant in the ship with all warnings ignored. How did so many not get the virus.


  • #6174
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    maxpowers wrote: »
    What about the thousands of people who have had the virus without even knowing it and the people who currently have it who will not get tested for it. The mortality rates are all based off confirmed cases only which is inaccurate.

    I'm talking about the boat where everyone is accounted for and South Korea which tested a huge segment of it's population including many asymptomatic people, both are around 1%. The virus very likely has a mortality rate of 1% based on those two samples


  • #6175
    Class MayDresser
    Closed Accounts Posts: 395 ✭✭Class MayDresser


    fritzelly wrote: »
    And if it comes back positive...

    One for everyone in the audience!


  • #6176
    twirlagig
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,374 ✭✭✭twirlagig


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Why the **** is a test being waster on yer man on late late show?

    It’s a show with a huge audience. We’re all glued to Boards here for weeks now... there’s people out there that still probably think this is ‘just a flu’...
    The more awareness for how crazy this is going, the better...

    Sorry, Strawbs, not attacking you... just as anxious as everyone else


  • #6177
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    niallo27 wrote: »
    It depends how you get your figures. There was nearly 4700 people on the cruise with only nearly 700 testing positive. Now its impossible only 700 got it as it was rampant in the ship with all warnings ignored. How did so many not get the virus.

    Maybe many only stayed for a night or two. Not everyone was on it for weeks . Anyway, what is your point? Everyone on the ship was tested


  • #6178
    Kaisr Sose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Some good news.

    https://twitter.com/AhmadRajpoot555/status/1241093896530268162?s=20

    To me, this the best post of all these combined Covid threads. Great news. Great photo.
    Signora, take a bow, you are some fighter!
    To the medical team, Bravo! You won this battle. You will flatten the curve and win this war.
    Forza l'Italia
    Viva l'italia


  • #6179
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    niallo27 wrote: »
    It depends how you get your figures. There was nearly 4700 people on the cruise with only nearly 700 testing positive. Now its impossible only 700 got it as it was rampant in the ship with all warnings ignored. How did so many not get the virus.

    Maybe many had only stayed for a night or two, people get on and leave at many different stops throughout the cruise journey. Not everyone was on it for weeks . Anyway, what is your point? Everyone on the ship was tested, they got their figures by testing everyone so I dont see how else it could depend how the figures were gotten.

    Anyway, it was about 745 tested positive, and it was 3700 on the ship.


  • #6180
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,302 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    12 in ICU is a doubling from yesterday right?

    How many of these does it take to put the system under pressure?

    Anyone know?

    Could we couple with a couple of hundred?

    Well into the hundreds would be okay.

    I'm sure I read somewhere they are looking at being able to manage 600-700 or something


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  • #6181
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    12 in ICU is a doubling from yesterday right?

    How many of these does it take to put the system under pressure?

    Anyone know?

    Could we couple with a couple of hundred?

    Its 12 from the start that have needed ICU, it was stable at 6 for the last while so it isnt steadily growing which is good.

    There isn't any confirmation if 12 are currently in ICU


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