CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

Xertz · 20-03-2020 06:58PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Do most Italian flights go and come through Dublin only?

Direct flights would only be a % of the traffic - You'd have plenty coming in via other cities too.

Hobgoblin11 · 20-03-2020 06:58PM

PokeHerKing wrote: »

The average person just doesn't seem to grasp exactly what China did to get on top of this. I live near a park and the constant stream of people in and out of it all week that I can see from my living room window is outrageous.

Literally no one was on the streets of Wuhan/Hubei for months. The only activity on the streets were trucks disinfecting them.

I'm not sure we have the capability or desire to get rid of this in the manner China did.

luckily we won't get it as bad as wuhan or else we would be screwed

Xertz · 20-03-2020 06:59PM

Achasanai wrote: »

We seem to be tracking ahead of Italy in terms of cases (adjusting for time and population) but UK tracking nearly identically with Italy in terms of deaths.

At present the case rate is probably still hard to compare as the criteria for tests is different in different jurisdictions.

igCorcaigh · 20-03-2020 06:59PM

Has UK closed universities yet?

paleoperson · 20-03-2020 06:59PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Is it fake?

It was in DM who talked to her or the person who claimed the video. I tried looking into it last night. I have seen some people in the DM comments stating they knew the person and that it's not fake. I don't think it's fake but you never know. I saw someone claiming the girl has "lung cancer", but that isn't really credible for a 39 year old woman so you can't know who to trust. She would have quite the nerve to pull this if it is fake.

tikkahunter · 20-03-2020 06:59PM

Ninthlife wrote: »

Re: social distancing

Today in work it was stated that failure to comply with social distancing can be deemed a disciplinary issue

That is great , seriously wish all employers would go down that route .

iguana · 20-03-2020 07:00PM

Xertz wrote: »

In terms of population, Cork has 542,868, Dublin has 1,348,000

Dublin: 27% of the population. 51% of the cases.
Cork: 11% of the population. 15% of the cases.
Wicklow: 3% of the population. 3% of the cases.
Limerick: 4% of the population. 3% of the cases.

Dublin's confirmed cases are significantly higher per head of population than anywhere else in the country. Limerick's are surprisingly low given the fears when we discovered an infected doctor was working in the A&E a week before his diagnosis but apparently he wasn't infectious at that point or was practicing excellent hygiene.

Nesta99 · 20-03-2020 07:01PM

Its damn shocking how blasé some people are being on all this. Pubs that are supposedly closed letting people in when they knock on the door. Groups congregating still. We are only as strong as the weakest link in all this. Tbh I dont care if these people catch covid-19 and many are in the high risk category but they are then potentially carrying the virus home or in to other community settings eg when out for groceries. It's disheartening when preparing for things to kick off as a frontline healthcare professional to see these efforts undermined.

The lack of understanding of infection control is a concern also. Shop workers being made to wear gloves is more likely to cause the spread of infection as there is a tendency to not swap out gloves or use antimicrobial gels as often. Counting or recieving cash then yes wear gloves but those gloves often dont get removed when then dealing with foodstuffs. You see this happening in general at deli counters but at the moment its especially troubling.

There will be a whole lot of regret that will turn to recrimination if the body count climbs. People will blame government for not doing enough when the real issue will be that some people are ignoring advice. If a worst case scenario doesnt come to pass then its a bonus but nobody should be thinking that this is all an over reaction.

I do think that government warnings need to be stark and blunt rather than the nice 'lets not panic people' bland warnings currently. People dont heed health warnings on smoking, diabetes risk, heart disease etc so a change in this sort of tactic is needed. One thing that many psychologists say is that people need to feel a sense of duty to their own family, their own reputation if they dont heed warnings. With this in mind something like 'be a good mother/father/son/daughter and protect your family by heeding advice. The implication being that not to heed advice makes you a poor parent/son/daughter etc. People would not like that implication and social psychology studies back this up. I would even go as far as showing people struggling to breath in an ICU (if they waived their right to confidentiality). The stark reality of what people could be facing or more what their loved ones could be facing may be what it takes to get everyone to play their part properly and not be the arrogant weak point.

Harry Palmr · 20-03-2020 07:01PM

Rockbeast2 wrote: »

So the UK have tonight begun to "nationalise" wages.
There is talk of nationalising industries.
There are rent and mortgage freezes.
There are queues for food shops.
Empty shelves.
Curfews and lockdowns incoming.

Jeremy Corbyn must think all his Christmases have come at once!

* A little humour in dark days.

McDonnell and Corbyn are spitting feathers!

20-03-2020 07:01PM

paleoperson wrote: »

It was in DM who talked to her or the person who did the video. I tried looking into it last night. I have seen some people in the DM comments stating they knew the person and that it's not fake. I don't think it's fake but you never know. I saw someone claiming the girl has "lung cancer", but that isn't very credible for a 39 year old woman so you can't know who to trust. She would have quite the nerve to pull this if it is fake.

not fake

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/20/dont-take-any-chances-warning-of-woman-with-covid-19-shared-online

joeguevara · 20-03-2020 07:01PM

Xertz wrote: »

In terms of population, Cork has 542,868, Dublin has 1,348,000

Galway 258,058, Kildare, 222,504

You've a number 100,000 and 200,000 and a lot that are less than 100,000.

So, obviously you're going to see more cases in Dublin and Cork than anywhere else in Ireland simply because they're the two places with the largest population concentration.

I find Ireland's fixated on using county-by-county comparisons when they're actually not really comparable comparable populations or densities at all.

I heard someone this morning saying "oh sure there's no cases in Leitrim compared to Cork" There are 32,044 in Leitrim and 542,868 in Cork i.e. Cork is nearly 17 times bigger.

It would be useful to stop spread around if we're getting regional areas that are genuinely having lower case loads, but I just found or GAA shirt comparisons sometimes do us no favours.

In simple terms the fact that more doctors are in urban areas and more tests were available will also mean that less dense areas will have lower figures. Transport to laboratories that were already full will mean they will be on the back of the list. I would also suspect that anyone who was displaying serious symptoms would have been transferred to the largest hospital. Are cases determined by location of treatment or home address of patient. So many variables.

MOR316 · 20-03-2020 07:01PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

luckily we won't get it as bad as wuhan or else we would be screwed

Always easy to be negative and hysterical. It's the Irish way.
("OMG I was outside and other people were outside walking! STAY INDOORS YOU FOOLS! LOCKDOWN NOW OR WE ALL DIE!!")

But, I really think we're handling this very well. It's one time it comes in handy to be an island this small

is_that_so · 20-03-2020 07:02PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Has UK closed universities yet?

Think they largely closed themselves.

20-03-2020 07:02PM

Nesta99 wrote: »

Its damn shocking how blasé some people are being on all this. Pubs that are supposedly closed letting people in when they knock on the door. Groups congregating still. We are only as strong as the weakest link in all this. Tbh I dont care if these people catch covid-19 and many are in the high risk category but they are then potentially carrying the virus home or in to other community settings eg when out for groceries. It's disheartening when preparing for things to kick off as a frontline healthcare professional to see these efforts undermined.

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source?

otnomart · 20-03-2020 07:02PM

paleoperson wrote: »

Headline on today's Irish Examiner says "Italy's healthcare system nears breaking point".... how exactly is it "near" breaking point? Saying it's near breaking point is for the common flu gone especially bad or something, what could possibly be worse than how it is?

627 new deaths today, they're sending patients to other countries, total lack of equipment, triage situation (allowing some people to die) - what exactly would breaking point be if they aren't at it now? I think it's fair to say they went past breaking point long ago, they're now trying to do the best they can with a broken system.

Breaking point is when all ICU beds are taken, and it has not been reached.

Italy has a system that can transfer ICU patients to another city or even region (by military plane if necessary).

ICU beds are still being created; for example, today the field hospital setup by American NGO Samaritan's Purse has just opened up.

Cork Boy 53 · 20-03-2020 07:02PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

luckily we won't get it as bad as wuhan or else we would be screwed

What makes you think that? This is only starting.

20-03-2020 07:03PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Would be interesting to know what the recovered numbers are. Because the case totals now wont be the active ones

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/ireland/

20-03-2020 07:03PM

Has anyone any reliable data on how much testing we're doing vs other countries?

amadangomor · 20-03-2020 07:04PM

Can anyone who know of pubs open call the guards please. I know it's not illegal but guaranteed the publican will close if the guards have a strong word.

Hobgoblin11 · 20-03-2020 07:04PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

What makes you think that? This is only starting .

cos we will learn from past countries failures I hope

Xertz · 20-03-2020 07:04PM

iguana wrote: »

Dublin: 27% of the population. 51% of the cases.
Cork: 11% of the population. 15% of the cases.
Wicklow: 3% of the population. 3% of the cases.
Limerick: 4% of the population. 3% of the cases.

Dublin's confirmed cases are significantly higher per head of population than anywhere else in the country. Limerick's are surprisingly low given the fears when we discovered an infected doctor was working in the A&E a week before his diagnosis but apparently he wasn't infectious at that point or was practicing excellent hygiene.

Also wondering are we getting the details of cases that actually occurred in Dublin or Cork or are we looking at cases that are in major hospitals in Dublin or Cork ?

pjohnson · 20-03-2020 07:04PM

We appear to be beating Italy in rate and likely to beat Varadkar's 15,000 prediction if this keeps up.

coolshannagh28 · 20-03-2020 07:04PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

McDonnell and Corbyn are spitting feathers!

McDonnell was speechless on the BBC news earlier.

Itssoeasy · 20-03-2020 07:04PM

So the number of new today was lower than yesterday but if(heavy lifting here) the number of new cases doesn't double of triple over the weekend is there scope however small to be hopeful ? The people in my life aren't that annoyed over the social distancing it's the fact they are hoping for a glimmer of hope that we won't get like Italy or Spain and we may be able to reopen stuff on a phased basis in a couple of months. That may be wishful thinking but my family can't be that much different to anyone else's.

skellig_rocks · 20-03-2020 07:05PM

munsterlegend wrote: »

We are not China and hopefully never will be.

We don’t need to be like China to control the virus. See Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, Macau, Singapore, Vietnam and even South Korea. Seriously learn from their experiences and adhere to the guidelines from the HSE. Everyone just do their bit, and don’t worry about some assholes next door who didn’t follow the guideline

Mantis Toboggan · 20-03-2020 07:05PM

Why do we need more Gardai? What are they doing to tackle coronavirus?

I mean the pubs are closed, very little in the way of public disorder. Even the scumbags appear to be self isolating. Roads are very quite leading to less road collisions and harder to do people for driving over the limit! I'm not sure what the rush was to get them out of templemore.

Sam Hain · 20-03-2020 07:06PM

trapp wrote: »

To those suggesting social distancing isn't working.

The schools are closed along with colleges and all other education centres.

Pubs are closed. There is no nightlife at the minute.

Every group, sports club, community organisation etc is no longer happening or training or meeting up.

There are no mass gatherings, matches etc.

There are no weddings, funerals, communions, confirmations etc with crowds together.

Many people are out of work or working from home.

These are huge restrictions and will surely make a difference

And again, maybe I'm wrong but perhaps the boards posters generally speaking don't appreciate this as many spend much time indoors, on computers etc anyway?

The only further restriction we have is to stop people going out doors.

As of yet this hasn't been necessary and hopefully will not be.

But to suggest there are not restrictions in place that could make a difference is foolish in the extreme, even if some people are not quite adhering as best they could.

On a final point, is there anything worse than the old biddies sitting on their computer moaning about a few teenagers having a chat with their friends. They're only kids who are already putting up with huge restrictions on their lives. How would you have felt at 16 if you were told to spend the next two months with nobody only your family. Give the whinging a break.

Thanks for the update.

threeball · 20-03-2020 07:06PM

retro:electro wrote: »

What does it mean when Tony says some are hospitalised for public health reasons rather than clinical reasons?

To stop them spreading the virus. Its easier keep them in hospital and limit the chance of them wandering.

Xertz · 20-03-2020 07:06PM

We need to get everyone on board, don the Green Jersey and start calling out some of the idiocy around people refusing to social distance.

If you're ignoring this stuff, you're not being some kind of 'badass' you're being a f**ing moron and frankly need to be told you are.

Any chance we could roll out some high impact adverts similar to the drink driving ones?

MOR316 · 20-03-2020 07:06PM

skellig_rocks wrote: »

We don’t need to be like China to control the virus. See Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, Macau, Singapore, Vietnam and even South Korea. Seriously learn from their experiences and adhere to the guidelines from the HSE. Everyone just do their bit, and don’t worry about some assholes next door who didn’t follow the guideline

Particularly Taiwan.

My friend is living over there and he said it's not bad at all. That they have handled it brilliantly

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP