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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Facemasks on anyone who is not actually sick or involved in treating a sick person is nothing but an attention seeking total affectation and these people should be jeered on the street.

    What if the person has a condition and has been recommended to wear one by a doctor? Do you think they should be jeered on the street? Should you check with them first before hand?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    Antares35 wrote: »
    I don't think any of us can be accused of living in a fantasy land anymore. :( We all have things to worry about, myself included. My elderly parents, one of whom has an underlying condition are in one of the worst affected countries, and I am on the cusp of bringing their first grandchild into a world suffering the fallout of a pandemic.

    Fantasy land is one place I am not in. Doesn't mean I want to be a misery merchant either. I'll take whatever glimmer of positivity I can to get through the day.

    Am not loving this at all, i just want to drill it home to everyone this isnt going away anytime soon we cant let our gaurd down weve made a good start to flatten the curve but we can do more and not get complacent.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Shn99 wrote: »
    Holohan says he doesnt expect further measures to be announced, will the lockdown end on the 29th then?

    How many times does it need to be stated that we are not in lockdown?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Stheno wrote: »
    Its 5

    Theres 6 in one cluster recovered so its more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 445 ✭✭iwillyeah1234


    Headline on today's Irish Examiner page "Italy's healthcare system nears breaking point".... how exactly is it "near" breaking point? Saying it's near breaking point is for the common flu gone especially bad or something, what could possibly be worse than how it is?

    627 new deaths today, they're sending patients to other countries, total lack of equipment, triage situation (allowing some people to die) - what exactly would breaking point be if they aren't at it now? I think it's fair to say they went past breaking point long ago, they're now trying to do the best they can with a broken system.

    jesus. 627 ?

    wasn't it 425 the other day, and even i thought that was getting hairy.

    There's no sign of that Italian curve levelling off yet is there? Scarey..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,287 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    CSSE09 wrote: »
    They don't expect the peak to be near, he said we'll still be going up the curve just at a slower rate, one of the reporters asked if it went up by 15% per day would that be good and he said they'd be happy to see it be 15%.

    No country in Europe seems to have peaked yet (certainly not Italy).

    The aim is to get behind the curve and slow the spread right down


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,944 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    I get that but theres also value in keeping peoples spirits up too. If every single even slight positive gets a 'oh well its not really' that will crush people even further.


    Look around the now, people still not adhering to the social distancing. Thinking it's all just a game.

    We need to get fairly serious about this and not in two weeks when we have an even higher number and it's too late to act.


    Seek to raise spirits through other means, you will only be disapointed otherwise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Yakult wrote: »
    He is *probably* right.

    Don't think for a second numbers will drop off starting today and people can leave their guard down again.
    He keeps repeating the mantra of social distancing and that it's a societal effort so hopefully not too much danger of that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭mick987


    Gods Gift wrote: »
    Be interesting to see if Wetherspoons close their pubs.
    They have no choice. if they don't they will be forced too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Xertz wrote: »
    Which would achieve what? They could devalue the lira and have no ability to feed the population? You can at least print Euro within the scale of the Eurozone without drastically impacting inflation as the currency is a reference value and is huge and there's a massive internal market with most goods/services readily available in that € currency.

    Once you get down to smaller currencies you're into risk of hyperinflation and lass of spending power, and because supply chains are global and complex, that means you'd end up with loss of ability to supply basic goods and services.
    May be a good time to reevaluate floating EURO rate for national economies, with fixed rate for inter EU and international trade.

    Maintains EURO international stability while allowing individual economies tweak national measures, reduces arguments in favour of exiting EU.

    e.g. Germany buys EURO at 1/1 to DM, Italy 1/1.4 Lira, Germany sells in EURO, Italy pays in EURO. EURO/non-EU currencies floats as normal.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,035 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    We need lockdown now instead of lockins #flattenthecurve not fatten


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Jin luk wrote: »
    Am not loving this at all, i just want to drill it home to everyone this isnt going away anytime soon we cant let our gaurd down weve made a good start to flatten the curve but we can do more and not get complacent.

    I get the need to drill home the importance of control measures (especially because so many people are being complete plebs about the whole thing) but it just seems that every time there is a bit of good news, someone shoots it down.

    But yes it is annoying to see so many morons thinking "ah shure it'll be grand" when there are people dying :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭Balmed Out


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    I dont agree with your logic here.

    There is a lag between test and results which is more than 24hrs, so running oit of kits yesterday would not impact so quickly, if at all.

    Given that lots of people are not out and about these days, Paddys Day was no different to any other day this week

    Finally, it wont decline for a while. I do wish they would publish recovered stats as well as new cases now we have more than 14days since first confirmed case.

    It was Wednesday that kits were running short, resupplied yesterday.
    Doubt paddy's day had an affect. I think dropping the bar on who to test by removing the 'had travelled to certain regions or met someone who had' clause. There was probably quite a few who were obvious cases and tested at the start of weeks bumping up yesterday's numbers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,999 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Antares35 wrote: »
    I don't think any of us can be accused of living in a fantasy land anymore. :( We all have things to worry about, myself included. My elderly parents, one of whom has an underlying condition are in one of the worst affected countries, and I am on the cusp of bringing their first grandchild into a world suffering the fallout of a pandemic.

    Fantasy land is one place I am not in. Doesn't mean I want to be a misery merchant either. I'll take whatever glimmer of positivity I can to get through the day.

    Not being smart, but you won’t find that here. I only come onto this thread once a day for a half hour or so to get some facts that are going around.
    Positivity has long left boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,035 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    harr wrote: »
    All those results from the new test centres and new batch of kits hasn’t kicked it yet as far as I am aware.

    Oh :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Not being smart, but you won’t find that here. I only come onto this thread once a day for a half hour or so to get some facts that are going around.
    Positivity has long left boards.

    I may need to start doing the same! I can't keep up with the feckin thing anyway :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I remember being shocked that 130 in Italy had died in one day just last week. This is just a surreal situation


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,878 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    France: +1,617 cases/+78 deaths.

    A reduction on yesterdays figures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Yakult wrote: »
    Look around the now, people still not adhering to the social distancing. Thinking it's all just a game.

    We need to get fairly serious about this and not in two weeks when we have an even higher number and it's too late to act.


    Seek to raise spirits through other means, you will only be disapointed otherwise.
    Most people doing most of the things most of the time is what he said. 100% compliance is impossible and even in a full lockdown very difficult. The message needs to be repeated 100 times a day.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Hopefully when all this is over, we’ll keep practicing social distancing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,996 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    jesus. 627 ?

    wasn't it 425 the other day, and even i thought that was getting hairy.

    There's no sign of that Italian curve levelling off yet is there? Scarey..

    New cases may start dropping in the next 4 or 5 days once we pass the 14 day mark since the lockdown. Unfortunately the deaths will continue to rise for some time after that. However fewer new cases may ease the stress on the health system a bit which may in itself lessen the rate of death. But it will probably still keep rising for a few days yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,501 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Was just in Aldi, never again. People have no idea about social spacing. At the checkout people were on top of each other. You are less than three feet from the teller when you are bagging your groceries. At least in Dunnes and Tesco they have lines on the ground where you stand and wait your turn to get checked out. You can stand a fair distance from the teller as you bag your shopping too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Re the whole 'flatten the curve'.
    The daily figures don't mean squat unless you test test test like crazy and take actions upon them.

    The whole point is to reduce capacity to the health system.
    We may not be testing enough and be fooled into thinking we're flattening the curve, but our hospitals will be under huge pressure shortly.

    Without huge testing, we've no idea how bad this is and therefore can't determine best preventive measures (further restrictions and isolation of confirmed cases).

    Anyone who is looking for solice at our daily case count without looking at the big picture is in for a shock in the next couple of weeks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Was just in Aldi, never again. People have no idea about social spacing. At the checkout people were on top of each other. You are less than three feet from the teller when you are bagging your groceries. At least in Dunnes and Tesco they have lines on the ground where you stand and wait your turn to get checked out. You can stand a fair distance from the teller as you bag your shopping too.

    People need to actually tell others to stand back. We're FAR FAR FAR too polite as a society to enforce this stuff.

    It's all about being too shy to say 'boo' to our own shadow.

    Failure to stand back needs to become a social taboo for the moment and people need to feel they can actually tell people to stay out of their space.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Is social distancing the new norm until a vaccine is widely in effect?

    Sounds to me like it will be around for years !!

    In all liklihood yes and not a bad thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Headline on today's Irish Examiner says "Italy's healthcare system nears breaking point".... how exactly is it "near" breaking point? Saying it's near breaking point is for the common flu gone especially bad or something, what could possibly be worse than how it is?

    627 new deaths today, they're sending patients to other countries, total lack of equipment, triage situation (allowing some people to die) - what exactly would breaking point be if they aren't at it now? I think it's fair to say they went past breaking point long ago, they're now trying to do the best they can with a broken system.

    In my opinion Lombardy's health service is ****ing broken but health services in less effected regions are managing to keep buggering on (barely). The rest of the country is pretty close to failure imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    Can anyone tell me again how long covid can live on card, paper packaging? What are people wiping their shopping with? Any tips as to what other people are doing: using? This is important I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,317 ✭✭✭Sam Hain


    That Doctor freaking Eddie fella on the RTE news. Hes too creepy and unnerving an individual to be addressing the nation.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭Podge201


    I see teenagers walking in groups today, parents worse too to be not curtailing their children in this emergency


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