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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 Hudur


    They can't feed everyone they have no choice but to leave these type of place open
    Over 7 million people in china live in caves , they are super poor


    You seriously think eating snakes, bats and other wild animals is cheaper than chicken / pork? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    plodder wrote: »
    I saw the video going around of the Wuhan wild animal market. If China has shut that sh!t down and makes sure nothing like it ever happens again then they shouldn't be blamed for this. But, if they don't ...

    China lies, its the nature of their state, 2003 article below , they lied during SARS. The globe needs to decouple after this

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/china-s-sars-crisis-rooted-in-climate-of-state-dishonesty-1.356828
    Meng and Zhang hid the real numbers about SARS patients because the party believed it would stay in power by hitting high economic growth targets and nothing must interfere with that. They were unlucky to get caught and that was only because there happened to be one honest doctor, Jiang Yanyong of the People's Liberation Army Hospital 301, who dared to speak out.

    It is more than likely that this will only encourage other regional leaders in cities like Shanghai to do better in lying and cheating. That is how things have always worked out in the past; think of the 1958-1962 Great Leap Forward famine where officials thought showing loyalty by falsifying harvest figures was more important than saving lives.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭plodder


    They can't feed everyone they have no choice but to leave these type of place open
    Over 7 million people in china live in caves , they are super poor
    If true (and I'm not convinced) then it is China's fault.

    One thing people living off bush meat in the wild, so to speak, but a market like that in the city. No way. Anyone with a strong enough stomach should take a look at it. It's the most grotesque thing I've seen in a while.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭tikkahunter


    m17 wrote: »
    Supervalu have new screens up at checkout
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    Even without this pandemic, I think they are a good idea and wish more shops would have them . Nothing Worse then a teller coughing or spluttering in your face while serving you , or vice versa .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,718 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I work in a shop.
    Since last weekend people are certainly queueing better. I can view a few premises from where I am.
    People aren't really dozing about. It's brisk.
    Theres a few teenagers about but these are the ones who normally who'd be troublesome.
    More people are wearing gloves the odd one is wearing mask but they seem very sloppy with them.( I know them and they wouldn't be the sharpest).
    Most still paying with cash but they simply don't have a card.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,147 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    I know it’s fir a reason but I do find it a bit intimidating when you go into a shop and all the staff are wearing surgical masks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,718 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    One thing
    Can a mother or father bring her kids out for a walk in a town once they stay away from people?


    Also can an elderly person go out for a walk?

    Some say yes and some say no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    They can't feed everyone they have no choice but to leave these type of place open
    Over 7 million people in china live in caves , they are super poor

    Are you being serious. So your assertion is that people need to eat assorted wildlife that is difficult to obtain? When they could eat farmed food which would be a far more efficient way of mass feeding people.

    They have these markets because people go there for the unusual foodstuffs that they like eating ffs not because they are starving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    If most of the cases are in Dublin then it needs locking down like Wuhan. No one should be leaving Dublin, closed the roads and at least contain the epicentre in Ireland.


    And nobody coming into it either. Suits me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,712 ✭✭✭Hrududu


    What’s wrong with google and finding it for yourself or do ye need constant spoon feeding.
    The amount of sh!te people have been posting on this thread alone would take frickin years for everybody reading to google and verify. If you've got a link then why not provide it when making your post?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭skellig_rocks


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    Do you think China is still recording sizeable numbers but not reporting?

    You might have better insight than most of us.


    I don't want to be accused of spreading CT in this thread, as I don't have any official proofs. However you have to judge China on what they do rather than what they say.



    For example, do you believe China would lock down the whole country for near 2 months for around 80K cases and 3K deaths? For a country of 1.4 billion people?


    Why Russia and North Korea were first to close their borders with China? They are supposedly main allies of China?


    Why China accused US closing their border to Chinese in January, but not Russia or NK?


    In term of no. of deaths. I *think* Chinese death certificates only list single cause of death (e.g. if I got coronavirus with underlying conditions such as cancer, it may only appear to die from cancer, as the main cause of death). And in early days I think a lot of deaths are reported as "die from pneumonia". I think it is similar to Germany.


    I don't think there will be a national census in China soon if the death rate are massively under reported (to hind the stat).


    Anyway Chinese are very good at Maths, and statistics are not hard to be manipulated, especially in countries lacking transparencies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    FDA allows healthcare personnel to use industrial respirators during COVID-19 outbreak
    Respiratory protective devices are designed to achieve a very close facial fit and very efficient filtration of airborne particles, allowing them to filter more airborne particles than face masks, the FDA said in its statement. The FDA concluded that respirators approved by NIOSH, but not currently meeting the FDA’s requirements, may be effective in preventing healthcare personnel from airborne exposure to COVID-19.

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    Source?

    https://www.mlo-online.com/disease/infectious-disease/article/21128593/fda-allows-healthcare-personnel-to-use-industrial-respirators-during-covid19-outbreak


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    You haven't been paying attention have you. We need lockdown now, deal with the economy recovery later.

    I have been paying complete attention, thanks. So when later? 2021? Dealing with an economic recovery will not help small business people now and next week and next month. The more we can help the tens off thousands of them stay on their feet the better. Like I said, everyone susceptible to this virus, through age or illness, should stay in absolute quarantine in their homes. The rest should be social distancing based, with sensible closure mass of gathering venues and policing of crowds gathering in parks. I think the government is doing a pretty damn good job, and looking to limit the duration of any lockdown


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,230 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    And Dundalk racing going ahead today, a few hundred people from all over the country mixing and risking carrying the virus home.

    In fairness, having grown men riding around on the back of an animal so that other men can guess which one is the fastest for money, is an essential public service at the moment

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Petrol pump thing seems like nonsense.

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1241011046833360898


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Thurles is on tomorrow, Downpatrick and Naas sunday.

    Irish horse racing is behind closed doors


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    What’s wrong with google and finding it for yourself or do ye need constant spoon feeding.

    If you've read it somewhere, isn't it very simple to copy the link and paste it in your comment?

    You've then backed up your statement and saved anyone else the effort of verifying what you said.

    If you dislike being asked for a source so much, why not save yourself the irritation in the first place?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    MD1990 wrote: »

    My concern is some of the little ****es would turn around and either cough, spit or thump you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    MD1990 wrote: »

    So we should go out and start smacking these goofy teenage dickheads in to the mouth for not observing social distancing - with absolute ****ing pleasure. Where do we sign up?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,040 ✭✭✭optogirl


    MD1990 wrote: »

    A the park this morning my 8 year old started lecturing teenagers who had hopped the fence into the playground :o. Was proud of him although I do want him to avoid situations where he could get his head kicked in ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,757 ✭✭✭masterK


    Irish horse racing is behind closed doors

    Probably a very shrewd commercial move by HRI, there is literally nothing else to be bet on at the moment. ITV are even broadcasting Thurles tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    is_that_so wrote: »

    I got one of these fuel pump emails this morning from a colleague and immediately was skeptical of it, I mean I'm not a scientist, but surely a diesel or petrol fumed pump handle wouldn't be virus bacteria nirvana?

    I would have thought it might even be antibacterial?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    plodder wrote: »
    I saw the video going around of the Wuhan wild animal market. If China has shut that sh!t down and makes sure nothing like it ever happens again then they shouldn't be blamed for this. But, if they don't ...

    I watched a video last night about the Chinese and their treatment of dogs. There's a Chinese dog festival and it's absolutely brutal. The murdering of dogs is pure vicious.


    Does anybody know what Irelands and Europes farming and slaughtering practices are like? Are animals like cows, pigs, sheep killed slowly for their meat and fur or is it done in more of a humane manner?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    masterK wrote: »
    Probably a very shrewd commercial move by HRI, there is literally nothing else to be bet on at the moment. ITV are even broadcasting Thurles tomorrow.

    Yeah 100%, they're saying to protects jobs in the industry which is does but it'll be the only kind of sports someone can watch or like you say bet on at the moment


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,177 ✭✭✭✭klose


    I see a lot of small businesses in town are promoting or only giving the option of cashless transactions, wonder will all this set the ball rolling on a couple of cashless only businesses?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,438 ✭✭✭circadian


    Everyone out and about today, every where looks busy. All the industrial retails premises are open, life goes on. Gangs of teenagers out and about, summer holidays have come early.
    We're doing a little, but hardly enough. The '' dumb'' part of society will force a lockdown, as it's the only way those dumbasses will distance themselves from others.


    This is it. The toerag next door, who lives with his grandparents, was marauding around with his gang of mates. I called him up on it and his smart arse response was "the government aren't making us stay apart, they're just asking us to".

    I reminded him that this kind of thinking is what leads governments to change from asking people to do something to making them do it.

    ****ing idiots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,855 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Irish horse racing is behind closed doors

    Still several hundred people in one space, it should be stopped until it's over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,230 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Irish horse racing is behind closed doors

    What, like this?
    MV5BOGYyNDY0YTEtNzkzZC00NzBhLTk5NGItZjdmMGUyOGY2NzA0XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMjUyNDk2ODc@._V1_.jpg

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,718 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I was in Aldi Yesterday.
    I was in the queue and there was few people behind me.
    They opened a other checkout and in was next line and I walked up to it. I
    A woman who wasn't in the queue pushed past me and raised her hand to me and said stop keep back. (I only had about four items).


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