CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

i57dwun4yb1pt8 · 20-03-2020 12:57PM

Boomer is used to refer to the CEOS and Politicians that f*cked the planet by policy and greed , mainly from the 50 60s and 70's

i see no problem with that analogy

New Home · 20-03-2020 12:57PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I believe that that is the right approach. A complete lockdown, and the resulting failure of tens of thousands of small business, driving thousands of families into poverty and fear, will probably result in more deaths through the impact of depression, chronic stress / anxiety and suicide, than the virus itself. People at risk should stay the f*** inside for as long as it takes, and I’ve made that very very clear to my parents, so that a full lockdown for the rest of us is not necessary.

That's the whole point, though. It IS necessary.

spookwoman · 20-03-2020 12:57PM

Father went to chemist today for a few thing and they have someone at the door asking what do people want. Father is wearing mask and is trying to tell this person what he need and they just can't understand him, then pharmacist starts asking him about temp etc and he's saying no temp i just was some items. Chemists then says if you are not sick why are you wearing mask.. Because I'm not sick at the moment and don't want to get sick!

Seriously have to wonder about some people

Antares35 · 20-03-2020 12:57PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

1903 new cases in Spain today, 171 new deaths , and it's only noon.

Lockdown not working

That's when they report their stats each day. Most of those people were probably infected before lockdown was properly enforced. Who are you to say "lockdown not working". You know there is a lag between implementing controls and seeing the results of them?

sjb25 · 20-03-2020 12:58PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

We will escape the worst of the disease because we are an island

A i r c r a f t / f e r r y s

tobefrank321 · 20-03-2020 12:58PM

otnomart wrote: »

It is difficult to understand how Germany is treating those cases that "they are catching early via wide spread testing", if they do not publish the split between: cases treated at home in quarantine, and cases treated in hospital.
For Italy, we know this.
Yesterday:

33190 positives

15757 in hospital

14935 with lesser symptoms treated at home and in quarantine

2498 in intensive care

So, from the Italy data, we know how the virus can impact a population in terms of hospital requirements.
And any other Country can take this data and take their own decisions.

For Germany, we have no clue.

So almost 1 in 2 cases in Italy are hospitalised.

Either they are only testing severe or hospital cases, or its hitting Italians worse than elsewhere. Its likely the former. So the real prevalence in Italy must be massive, at least in the hundreds of thousands.

20-03-2020 12:59PM

New Home wrote: »

That's the whole point, though. It IS necessary.

Respectfully, I completely disagree with you, for the reasons stated in my post.

cherryghost · 20-03-2020 01:00PM

Lockdown/social distance does and will work. It just needs time to filter through, about 10 days before the signs are there that cases start coming down.

i57dwun4yb1pt8 · 20-03-2020 01:00PM

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spookwoman · 20-03-2020 01:01PM

Doctor Shipman wrote: »

Its been said about a million times on this thread. The mask will not prevent you from getting sick.

he's wearing a ffp3 respirator mask but even then it was a bloody stupid question.

Hobgoblin11 · 20-03-2020 01:01PM

sjb25 wrote: »

A i r c r a f t / f e r r y s

The footfall is controllable

Land borders have a way higher footfall

Hector Savage · 20-03-2020 01:01PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I agree. They live near a world class hospital. Also the supermarkets near them are big and spacious, around here they're so crowded and everyone on top of each other. Also with the restrictions in Spain I'm glad they're staying, who knows what will happen here as we don't seem to be doing much compared to others.

I have to say people are really coming together and cooperating here, shops near me have a policy between 8-10am it's over 65s only allowed to shop

really good idea

joeguevara · 20-03-2020 01:02PM

RobertKK wrote: »

The doctor on CNN last night said Covid 19 was 2 to 3 times as contagious as influenza.

I don’t know much about how contagious it is but what I do know is that media in US whether pro democrat or republican put politics before real facts.

I only trust impartial sources. Never from journalists and straight from medics themselves who have no agenda.

pjohnson · 20-03-2020 01:02PM

Doctor Shipman wrote: »

Its been said about a million times on this thread. The mask will not prevent you from getting sick.

I doubt anyone is going to take medical advice from "Doctor Shipman" tbf

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 01:02PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

So almost 1 in 2 cases in Italy are hospitalised.

Either they are only testing severe or hospital cases, or its hitting Italians worse than elsewhere. Its likely the former. So the real prevalence in Italy must be massive, at least in the hundreds of thousands.

Several hundred tourists from dozens of countries leaving Italy were infected after leaving Italy, there must be at least a few hundred thousand cases in Italy

jackboy · 20-03-2020 01:02PM

Doctor Shipman wrote: »

Its been said about a million times on this thread. The mask will not prevent you from getting sick.

It does give significant protection.

SDKev · 20-03-2020 01:02PM

Doctor Shipman wrote: »

Its been said about a million times on this thread. The mask will not prevent you from getting sick.

FFP3 masks should prevent you from inhaling it

Hector Savage · 20-03-2020 01:02PM

cherryghost wrote: »

Lockdown/social distance does and will work. It just needs time to filter through, about 10 days before the signs are there that cases start coming down.

Italy has been on lockdown for 11 days now

Bannasidhe · 20-03-2020 01:03PM

BluePlanet wrote: »

The problem with nonchalant social distancing and "casual lockdown", is that it's going to lengthen the time these measures need to be in effect.

If everybody was truly locked down, and really it should be coordinated around the EU, we could probably get on top of this within 14 days.

People should be entirely house bound.
Army, Police and Health Care workers should deliver daily rations and meds.
Pet dogs should be taken to a converted stadium for kenneling.

Italy is too casual and so is Spain.
We are witnessing the results in real time.

You can feck off with that part in bold.

And do you seriously think E.U. countries have the resources to deliver rations and meds to every household?
Where will these 'rations' be made?
How will dietary requirements be deal with?
Who will work out the logistics of this?
How many people do you think it will require to deliver 'rations' every single day to every singe household in every single EU country?

I don't think you have really thought this plan of your through.

20-03-2020 01:04PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

So almost 1 in 2 cases in Italy are hospitalised.

Either they are only testing severe or hospital cases, or its hitting Italians worse than elsewhere. Its likely the former. So the real prevalence in Italy must be massive, at least in the hundreds of thousands.

I think that smoking is a huge factor. Almost everyone of that demographic in Italy is, or has been for a large part of their life, a heavy smoker. So would not at all be surprised that even when we know the real denominator, the death rate in Italy is much higher than more northern European countries

Thelonious Monk · 20-03-2020 01:04PM

Ok, I'm taking a break from news and threads, me poor head, give yourselves a break too it's exhausting

otnomart · 20-03-2020 01:04PM

jamesf85 wrote: »

From everything I've read this virus seems to mainly affect those with underlying conditions. I think 3 people with no underlying issues have died this week in Italy. That's 1 out of over 1,000.

Any age can get it, and there are several cases of young people.
from Belgium: Lung scans of COVID-19 patients in their 30s show "scary picture" https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2020/03...scary-picture/

For Italy, we know the percentage of cases that require lesser or no care (due to few or no symptoms), of those that will require hospital case and of those who will require intensive care.
Yesterday:

33190 positives
15757 in hospital
14935 with lesser symptoms treated at home and in quarantine
2498 in intensive care

wakka12 · 20-03-2020 01:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think that smoking is a huge factor. Almost everyone of that demographic in Italy is, or has been for a large part of their life, a heavy smoker. So would not at all be surprised that even when we know the real denominator, the death rate in Italy is much higher than more northern European countries

How does it explain Iran, also with a high death rate, and one of the lowest rates of smoking in the world

murpho999 · 20-03-2020 01:05PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I agree. They live near a world class hospital. Also the supermarkets near them are big and spacious, around here they're so crowded and everyone on top of each other. Also with the restrictions in Spain I'm glad they're staying, who knows what will happen here as we don't seem to be doing much compared to others.

I'm sorry this is not true.

I've been in Tesco, Lidl & Supervalu in Bray this week, all spacious and not crowded.

Where do people get this stuff from?

Gooey Looey · 20-03-2020 01:05PM

I need to have a stern word with my Dad today, he's nearly 70 and is still working as a lorry driver, won't quit. He claims he's not at risk, he cleans the lorry before he starts and doesn't have any contact with anyone (although I don't believe he's not stopping for coffee or even a piss). The problem is he is at huge risk being an asthmatic, but also lives with my mam who has been a heavy smoker and also my brother who is another asthmatic.

Antares35 · 20-03-2020 01:05PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

tbh I think they are better off here with Spain health system than Ireland.
Also if they self isolate and take careful trips to shops they should be fine

My parents are self isolating in Spain. You literally cannot leave the house where they are except for food and medicine. There are patrols on the streets and constant reminders via loudspeaker of the rules. At least they are properly enforcing the controls. All non essential places are shut as far as I know.

They definitely feel safer there. They have their own garden space to exercise and get fresh air and they have more faith in the Spanish healthcare system than the Irish one.

I'm going mad worrying about them as they are both early 70's and Dad is at risk with diabetes, but they made the decision to stick it out there. Last thing Dad wanted was to be confined on a packed flight with a couple of stag/ hen parties from the north of Spain for 3 hours coming home. He said they would be like sitting ducks.

Priced a private flight - circa 12k - they will be staying put!

Except now I keep getting calls from private jet companies telling me my plane is ready. Go away!!!!!!!!! :P

Antares35 · 20-03-2020 01:06PM

Gooey Looey wrote: »

I need to have a stern word with my Dad today, he's nearly 70 and is still working as a lorry driver, won't quit. He claims he's not at risk, he cleans the lorry before he starts and doesn't have any contact with anyone (although I don't believe he's not stopping for coffee or even a piss). The problem is he is at huge risk being an asthmatic, but also lives with my mam who has been a heavy smoker and also my brother who is another asthmatic.

What is it about parents? :P

Naggdefy · 20-03-2020 01:07PM

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Ok Boomer

:pac:

That's the response i knew i'd get

It's that American 'humour' again, usually accompanied by canned laughter. Someone who has seen every episode of the Simpsons and raises their voice at the end of a sentence

BluePlanet · 20-03-2020 01:07PM

Bannasidhe wrote: »

You can feck off with that part in bold.

And do you seriously think E.U. countries have the resources to deliver rations and meds to every household?
Where will these 'rations' be made?
How will dietary requirements be deal with?
Who will work out the logistics of this?
How many people do you think it will require to deliver 'rations' every single day to every singe household in every single EU country?

I don't think you have really thought this plan of your through.

It has to be managed throughout the EU, not everyplace at the same time.
Similar to China.

They managed to do it in Wuhan.

and yes, those fecking dogs should be humanely kenneled so as to prevent their owners from breaking quarantine.

murpho999 · 20-03-2020 01:07PM

Gooey Looey wrote: »

I need to have a stern word with my Dad today, he's nearly 70 and is still working as a lorry driver, won't quit. He claims he's not at risk, he cleans the lorry before he starts and doesn't have any contact with anyone (although I don't believe he's not stopping for coffee or even a piss). The problem is he is at huge risk being an asthmatic, but also lives with my mam who has been a heavy smoker and also my brother who is another asthmatic.

So what risk is he taking in his truck that nobody else has been in?

If he observes social distancing and good hand hygiene then he'll be fine.

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP