CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP

19-03-2020 10:30PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Was talking to my dad the other day (69 years old) and he was saying he wouldn't mind if he got the virus and died from it.

I, a bit perplexed as you can imagine, questioned his thinking. He said that from what he understands of it, people that get it are off their heads in and out of fevers and their breathing slows until they die. He reckons the respiratory system giving up, whilst you're so out of it with the 'flu', that you'd barely notice, and "with a few whiskeys in you" it'd be a grand way to go.

I did have to laugh, but it got me thinking: how do you actually die from this? It does seem to be mostly related to the breathing issue, from what I can see (it shuts down your ability to breath properly?). Are people dying in their sleep and over night with it, just by suffocating?

Hospital would be managed, and perhaps with morphine it would just be like drifting away.

But alone, all I can say is that a friend got viral pneumonia a few years back and couldn't breathe enough to talk and call an ambulance. They texted me and I called the ambulance for them.
They said it was the scariest thing they had ever encountered, the panic of not being able to breathe just made it worse.

Gods Gift · 19-03-2020 10:31PM

David McWilliams wants the bank to print free money and put it into our bank accounts

tobefrank321 · 19-03-2020 10:31PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Those demanding a lockdown are probably isolated / loners and wouldn't even be impacted by it. It's a different for the broader society who are used to socialising and not being prisoners in their own home....it would hit them hard if it went on too long.

Those demanding a lockdown are responsible patriots wanting the best for their compatriots.

Monkeynut · 19-03-2020 10:32PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

China blamed the Us military several times hence Trump calling it the Chinese virus at every opportunity.

Even in a global crisis they can't leave each other be. Looks like China is getting back to normal while the problems in the Us are only beginning.
Check mate to Winnie the Pooh

This is what i don't get. If everything is getting back to normal. How is it not snowballing again?

sheepsh4gger · 19-03-2020 10:32PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

How come almost every contributor to these shows on Covid-19 seem to have the worst possible quality internet connection?

It has to do with wireless being a joke. You need to connect your laptop with a physical cable to the router, otherwise if someone walks in front of you or turns on a microwave your connection will drop. A wire also has much higher bandwidth.

bekker · 19-03-2020 10:32PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Was talking to my dad the other day (69 years old) and he was saying he wouldn't mind if he got the virus and died from it.

I, a bit perplexed as you can imagine, questioned his thinking. He said that from what he understands of it, people that get it are off their heads in and out of fevers and their breathing slows until they die. He reckons the respiratory system giving up, whilst you're so out of it with the 'flu', that you'd barely notice, and "with a few whiskeys in you" it'd be a grand way to go.

I did have to laugh, but it got me thinking: how do you actually die from this? It does seem to be mostly related to the breathing issue, from what I can see (it shuts down your ability to breath properly?). Are people dying in their sleep and over night with it, just by suffocating?

You don't really want to know.

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19-03-2020 10:32PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

No but they have grotesque animal factory farms where diseases spread that could spread to humans, for that reason I don't think any of us can look down on the Chinese. We should perhaps think about how we keep animals worldwide, it might even mean, gasp, eating less meat.

The Chinese seem to have a particularly callous disregard for animal welfare. I seen two videos today from China on twitter that shocked me to the core. One was a dog in what looked like a large wok, the dog was being boiled alive and basted at the same time in a shallow enough liquid. The other was even worse a poor dog strung up by a wire still alive while a man was blow-torching it. It was black from head to toe and he seemed to spend a sinister amount of time blow torching its face. The dog was still alive. I was so repulsed i had to go for a walk to get my head around what i had just seen.

Europe is not anywhere near the level of depraved animal treatment you see in China. I'm not sure there is anywhere on earth that would come close to them.

They really need to be held to account for their treatment of animals and their disgusting wet markets. Just look where we are now with this virus because of their treatment of animals.

Jinglejangle69 · 19-03-2020 10:32PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

David McWilliams wants the bank to print free money and put it into our bank accounts

Sorted!!

niallo27 · 19-03-2020 10:32PM

martin101 wrote: »

No think your wrong, me and a few of my friends want a lockdown. Some of us have elderly family that we care about and don't want to see die. Nothing to do with being a loner and just want a lockdown for the sake of it. Problem with people these days is "I'm ok so fxxk the rest of yous" lovely attitude

That's not correct, there has to be a balance though. I have vulnerable family but I dont want a complete lockdown. I think what we have in place now is enough for now.

patnor1011 · 19-03-2020 10:32PM

Strazdas wrote: »

If you go too soon with this, how do you get back out of it? The govt have to be really careful here......people would not accept a six week lockdown, their mental health would really start to suffer.

Not quite. People can endure much more like for example in a war time.
I would think that mental health will suffer more seeing people you know to die from this virus and not from lack of browsing shops and sitting in a pub.

Hobgoblin11 · 19-03-2020 10:33PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Was talking to my dad the other day (69 years old) and he was saying he wouldn't mind if he got the virus and died from it.

I, a bit perplexed as you can imagine, questioned his thinking. He said that from what he understands of it, people that get it are off their heads in and out of fevers and their breathing slows until they die. He reckons the respiratory system giving up, whilst you're so out of it with the 'flu', that you'd barely notice, and "with a few whiskeys in you" it'd be a grand way to go.

I did have to laugh, but it got me thinking: how do you actually die from this? It does seem to be mostly related to the breathing issue, from what I can see (it shuts down your ability to breath properly?). Are people dying in their sleep and over night with it, just by suffocating?

Google anti-natalisim, your dad should also

ShaneU · 19-03-2020 10:33PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

you're not you when you're hungry, have a snickers

I turn into a right Diva when I'm hungry

Mental Mickey · 19-03-2020 10:33PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

David McWilliams wants the bank to print free money and put it into our bank accounts

F**kwit

Steve F · 19-03-2020 10:33PM

What's this I'm hearing about hydroxychloroquine?

owlbethere · 19-03-2020 10:33PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I think our approach has been sensible, if a bit late.

I also think there will be a ramp up in interventions. I don't know what that could be though.

Lockdown may come, but maybe an intermediate step first. They did mention advising elderly people to isolate - cocooning - perhaps that's next, before people on the street are fined.

Isolating elderly people?

What age does the government mean by elderly? This virus attacks those who I wouldn't even consider old like early 60s. So everybody 60+ hides away for a year. Also people with underlying issues are at risk. How about adults living at home with their parents? Where to they go to isolate their parents?

Thelonious Monk · 19-03-2020 10:33PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

David McWilliams wants the bank to print free money and put it into our bank accounts

I think it's called quantitative easing, I had to turn it off though as his skype was so bad. Hello Kirsty Wark on Newsnight, drool.

bb12 · 19-03-2020 10:34PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Was talking to my dad the other day (69 years old) and he was saying he wouldn't mind if he got the virus and died from it.

I, a bit perplexed as you can imagine, questioned his thinking. He said that from what he understands of it, people that get it are off their heads in and out of fevers and their breathing slows until they die. He reckons the respiratory system giving up, whilst you're so out of it with the 'flu', that you'd barely notice, and "with a few whiskeys in you" it'd be a grand way to go.

I did have to laugh, but it got me thinking: how do you actually die from this? It does seem to be mostly related to the breathing issue, from what I can see (it shuts down your ability to breath properly?). Are people dying in their sleep and over night with it, just by suffocating?

that's not a peaceful death at all...you body madly gasping for its last breath as the lungs are full of fluid and you're organs shutting down because of lack of oxygen..

stephenjmcd · 19-03-2020 10:34PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

David McWilliams wants the bank to print free money and put it into our bank accounts

Think I read somewhere that trump wants to give all the Americans 1k.

JP Liz V1 · 19-03-2020 10:34PM

dougm1970 wrote: »

that was posted monday....he was sick since last saturday night...family told he'd be tested on monday, someone would call to house.....but nothing since...family are under isolation and can't leave the house, my wife doing shopping etc for them and leaving at their gate.
he's improved in last couple of days, but he was savage sick...doctor instructed him to stay in bedroom and not go around the house.
maybe it wasnt the virus at all....but his family are convinced it was, due to symptoms and how first time he was ever this sick happened to fall on this week.
dunno if he'll be tested at all now that hes on the mend.

That is a long what for a test for someone so seriously sick yet "celebs" with mild to little symptons are tested fast

Longing · 19-03-2020 10:34PM

ShaneU wrote: »

I've had some mild symptoms come and go the last three days, cough, headaches, burning/itchy eyes, pains at the side of my head, and a strange "swarming" feeling in my head (hard to concentrate) Feel grand now just the odd cough. No fever

Thinking of ringing HSE tomorrow

Sounds like Graves Disease.

brookers · 19-03-2020 10:35PM

marilynrr wrote: »

There's a thread further down about trying to convince elderly parents to stay in when they don't want to.
Some of them just aren't afraid of the risk, and would rather keep living their life rather than risk being isolated and lonely and possibly dying anyway due to another age related issue.

That is correct, apparently one of these 90 year olds said they were going to die anyways so who gives a flying hoot, feck the fact that a bad recession is coming and and an icu bed is going to be as rare as a hen's tooth.

Jinglejangle69 · 19-03-2020 10:35PM

Michael Martin fills me with no confidence.

tobefrank321 · 19-03-2020 10:35PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

How come almost every contributor to these shows on Covid-19 seem to have the worst possible quality internet connection?

Probably in isolation down the country somewhere!

igCorcaigh · 19-03-2020 10:35PM

Blueshoe wrote: »

That's just rude. Look at Spain, Italy, Germany. They should have shutdown earlier. Now hundreds are dying everyday.
Don't worry you can still Skype

On this, do people think we can mollycoddle the elderly a bit too much, in terms of their mental ability to be alone for a while.

I mean, a lot of them have to deal with loneliness anyway, and have been through much harder times than any one of us could imagine.

I think most are a hardy bunch, just worried that some might not be so aware of what's happening now.

Not sure where I'm going with that thought...

Gods Gift · 19-03-2020 10:35PM

Steve F wrote: »

What's this I'm hearing about hydroxychloroquine?

Love their old stuff.

Can’t wait to see them at the electric picnic

Monkeynut · 19-03-2020 10:35PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Michael Martin fills me with no confidence.

Lets have a vote.

I Am The Law · 19-03-2020 10:36PM

Gods Gift wrote: »

But they’re so tasty.
Kerrygold butter and toomattto sauce.

What the Hollandaise?

weisses · 19-03-2020 10:36PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Over 1000 deaths in Europe today, hard to comprehend

every day 200 people die from influenza in Europe ...

Mental Mickey · 19-03-2020 10:36PM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I think it's called quantitative easing, I had to turn it off though as his skype was so bad. Hello Kirsty Wark on Newsnight, drool.

I thought you meant Kirsty Young....?

:mad:

niallo27 · 19-03-2020 10:36PM

owlbethere wrote: »

Isolating elderly people?

What age does the government mean by elderly? This virus attacks those who I wouldn't even consider old like early 60s. So everybody 60+ hides away for a year. Also people with underlying issues are at risk. How about adults living at home with their parents? Where to they go to isolate their parents?

So you think it would be easier for the whole population to do it.

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CoVid-19 Part IX - 785 cases ROI (3 deaths) 108 in NI (1 death) (20 March) Read OP