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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #8642
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    All countries on the planet including those in the EU will be seriously affected by this crisis. I think there will have to be a complete reset of the global financial system. What that will be I don`t know.

    I can't remember who mentioned it here first, but this could be the push some states need to give Universal Basic Income a lash.


  • #8643
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    retro:electro wrote: »
    When they say a dry cough is one of the symptoms, that is a cough where nothing comes up right? Like no mucus? Sorry to be gross

    That's my understanding of it anyway.


  • #8644
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    tom1ie wrote: »
    So would you put the economy before saving life’s?

    Facehugger doesn't seem to grasp that going for a Herd immunity type approach would destroy the economy anyway when 20% of those that catch the virus need to be hospitalised and a number, 5%-7%, need ICU treatment. More health workers will get it which means less health workers to run the health system.

    Facehugger also seems to neglect the fact that a number of people with other illnesses, will be adversely affected by the virus bringing down the health system.

    Facehugger thinks this is a head cold/flu thingy that is being overplayed. Only caught by the elderly and people should just get on with it.

    What a lot of people here are advocating is take the pain now and recover economically in 5 years.

    Facehugger wants to elongate the pain and have an economic and social collapse that will take 20+ years to recover from.


  • #8645
    Sardonicat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Sorry, I misread what you said. I’m in the exact same boat as you.

    Get some sheets, fold in two and cut a hole in the head for them. Get carers to wear them then wash at 90 after each use.
    Have hand wash in bathroom for them to wash when they arrive. Have front door open so they don’t touch handles (wash it down each time regardless.
    Go on to amazon and order conti dry wipes (or equivalent). PLEASE EVERYONE ELSE DONT BUY THESE UP! Buy the smaller ones for making disposable face masks. There’s a few videos going around of how to do this with wet wipes

    I do know that the HSE and agencies are taking on as many staff as possible so that they can try and have the same carers going to the same houses. At least to limit contagion. I know over the years that I’ve been told to do the course and I’ve said “hell no” I wanted my life back. But now, if I lose my folks, I’ll be volunteering.

    If you want to have a chat or a rant then PM me. I’ll be your ear xxx

    I'll be supplying them with a clean towel to dry their hands and wipes for the taps to use before and after handwashing. I will be going public with this. I don't have the sheets to destroy and I shouldn't have to be doing that. I wllbe going public with this this. Home hpsychology deserve to be adequately protected and so their clients.


  • #8646
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    spookwoman wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1240227166148796417?s=20

    25 deaths? That's a significant fall isn't it?

    I think deaths tell us more about this virus than anything else, about the prevalence and how well control measures are working.


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  • #8647
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    25 deaths? That's a significant fall isn't it?

    I think deaths tell us more about this virus than anything else, about the prevalence and how well control measures are working.

    That won't be their final tally of the day, unfortunately


  • #8648
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    https://www.gov.ie/en/service/be74d3-covid-19-pandemic-unemployment-payment/?fbclid=IwAR3EfiL2hRnvCUKwW1hEilETLfjvdojNZsRdekg-kESCHQsCQiSHrlpIw4Y

    If youre made redundant over this then your employer will have to pay you your redundancy at some stage or if they can’t afford it you’ll get it from the Social Insurance fund.
    In the meantime apply for the emergency payment and slap in a proper jobseekers application too.


  • #8649
    Syncpolice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    Anyone know how.dole.works if.company goes week on/week off?


  • #8650
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Not a good sign and it's not even midday
    German 9919 +552 cases +26 dead
    Belgium 1486 +243 cases
    Austria 1471+139 cases


  • #8651
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Those who have fully recovered from coronavirus and with antibodies could be highly valued as carers in the next few weeks and months.


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  • #8652
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    25 deaths? That's a significant fall isn't it?

    I think deaths tell us more about this virus than anything else, about the prevalence and how well control measures are working.

    I think spain has some some type of rollover count in the morning and then they have another later


  • #8653
    fly_agaric
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,327 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    Kind of funny (or sad) that the macho 'uber-capitalist' people that just want to get on with it & let the virus run its course etc seem to be showing less regard for human life + general society than the Chinese communist party of all people.


  • #8654
    Achasanai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Achasanai


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    I really think this reflects badly on the HSE.

    They couldn't solve the trolley crisis for years and then something like CV comes along and suddenly it solves itself overnight.

    There was clearly a dysfunctional approach to solving the trolley crisis up to now, people on trolleys who shouldn't have been there and people now making miraculous recoveries.


    They're cancelling non-serious operations and, in some cases, serious operations! They're preparing for what's coming.


  • #8655
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,721 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    retro:electro wrote: »
    When they say a dry cough is one of the symptoms, that is a cough where nothing comes up right? Like no mucus? Sorry to be gross

    Yeah, if you're spraying mucus everywhere it's a productive cough.


  • #8656
    Shn99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    Coronavirus: Cheltenham Festival punters claim to be showing symptoms
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishmirror.ie/sport/horse-racing/cheltenham-festival-punters-claim-showing-21710531.amp


  • #8657
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,477 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    where are those more detailed stats? for some people like me it whats get through to us

    are the HSE still counting travel, local community or is there no point anymore with many possible sources? I'd certainly like the stats on this from the last week, they stopped giving them out on the 13th https://www.gov.ie/en/news/7e0924-latest-updates-on-covid-19-coronavirus/ to me it'd be interesting to see when it was the unknown community sources passed out travel and local sources.

    local known contacts passed out travel on the 12th


  • #8658
    neonsofa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    Syncpolice wrote: »
    Anyone know how.dole.works if.company goes week on/week off?

    Regina doherty said on radio earlier that they are discussing contingency plans for casual workers/reduced days etc.


  • #8659
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    spookwoman wrote: »
    I think spain has some some type of rollover count in the morning and then they have another later

    Yeah. And 65 deaths now reported just to illustrate this.

    If you want an accurate timetable of when countries release their numbers - ask kermitt


  • #8660
    joeguevara
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,247 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Those who have fully recovered from coronavirus and with antibodies could be highly valued as carers in the next few weeks and months.

    There are reports of reinfection so it is not as simple as that.


  • #8661
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/entertainment/celebrity/vanessa-hudgens-criticised-for-heartless-coronavirus-comments/ar-BB11lhzn?ocid=spartanntp

    when these "influencers" lead the charge on covid, is it any wonder the bars are packed with gob****es!!

    I know we laugh but her attitude is not uncommon.


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  • #8662
    Fiery mutant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    What do you sell though?
    our retail store closed down yesterday. Our store had 60euro in for the day before. There is no one aroubd and anyone is,ain't shopping for new clothes, they are buying groceries and that's it.

    Home DIY.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



  • #8663
    The HorsesMouth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 509 ✭✭✭The HorsesMouth


    joeguevara wrote: »
    There are reports of reinfection so it is not as simple as that.

    There are no reports of reinfection. Rather the infection had never cleared properly in the first place.


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/16/the-big-question-over-coronavirus-can-a-person-get-it-twice


  • #8664
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    I'm classified as a potential case by my doctor.

    Some symptoms for two weeks but today quite breathless and sore chest. Could be unrelated chest infection or could be Covid.

    Good news is that if it is Covid I am probably not shedding the virus as it has been two weeks. Been told to self isolate for another week as a precaution.


  • #8665
    dummy_crusher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    rusty cole wrote: »
    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/entertainment/celebrity/vanessa-hudgens-criticised-for-heartless-coronavirus-comments/ar-BB11lhzn?ocid=spartanntp

    when these "influencers" lead the charge on covid, is it any wonder the bars are packed with gob****es!!

    I know we laugh but her attitude is not uncommon.

    "I'm sorry, but like, it's a virus, I get it, like, I respect it, but at the same time I'm like, even if everybody gets it, like yeah, people are going to die, which is terrible but like, inevitable?" :D


  • #8666
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    RobertKK wrote: »
    A lot of people were taken in by show over substance with Leo's speech.

    The reality is the disease is out of control here and no one will take responsibility for the lack of measures that allowed it to get out of control.

    100%. Leo cut pay for the Gardai, Drs and Nurses, but he read a prepared PR speech and now he’s great.


  • #8667
    TheW1zard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,346 ✭✭✭TheW1zard


    Whats the craic with the sneaky russians?


  • #8668
    codie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭codie


    amadangomor wrote: »
    I'm classified as a potential case by my doctor.

    Some symptoms for two weeks but today quite breathless and sore chest. Could be unrelated chest infection or could be Covid.

    Good news is that if it is Covid I am probably not shedding the virus as it has been two weeks. Been told to self isolate for another week as a precaution.

    Good news is that if it is Covid I am probably not shedding the virus as it has been two weeks. Been told to self isolate for another week as a precaution.

    How's that good news?


  • #8669
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    codie wrote: »
    Good news is that if it is Covid I am probably not shedding the virus as it has been two weeks. Been told to self isolate for another week as a precaution.

    How's that good news?

    As in I can't spread it now!


  • #8670
    Kaisr Sose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Syncpolice wrote: »
    Anyone know how.dole.works if.company goes week on/week off?

    Multiple posts like this. You need to check official sources for the info on that.(google GOV) Social media may give you the info, hovever is not official, and therefore is hit and miss.


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  • #8671
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Ulysses Gaze wrote: »
    Facehugger doesn't seem to grasp that going for a Herd immunity type approach would destroy the economy anyway when 20% of those that catch the virus need to be hospitalised and a number, 5%-7%, need ICU treatment. More health workers will get it which means less health workers to run the health system.

    Facehugger also seems to neglect the fact that a number of people with other illnesses, will be adversely affected by the virus bringing down the health system.

    Facehugger thinks this is a head cold/flu thingy that is being overplayed. Only caught by the elderly and people should just get on with it.

    What a lot of people here are advocating is take the pain now and recover economically in 5 years.

    Facehugger wants to elongate the pain and have an economic and social collapse that will take 20+ years to recover from.

    I don't think the herd immunity approach can work. It just means an uncontrolled spread. It would also take at least a year for the whole population to be infected which means isolating the elderly for at least a year which is not really practical. The elderly are highly dependent on a range of supports both inside and outside the home including going to hospitals. Its hard to receive cancer treatment at home for example. Nice idea in theory but not practical in reality, something those knighted scientists in their ivory towers didn't get.


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