CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

tobefrank321 · 18-03-2020 11:19AM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

INMO Trolley Watch figures for March 18th 2020

https://www.inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch

Only 16 beds short today in Irish hospitals.

Most of them in Kerry.

I really think this reflects badly on the HSE.

They couldn't solve the trolley crisis for years and then something like CV comes along and suddenly it solves itself overnight.

There was clearly a dysfunctional approach to solving the trolley crisis up to now, people on trolleys who shouldn't have been there and people now making miraculous recoveries.

Kaisr Sose · 18-03-2020 11:20AM

spookwoman wrote: »

Tesco shelves still empty for the oap shop even got in at 7am before anyone else

The issue is that there is no need for empty shelves.

tom1ie · 18-03-2020 11:21AM

facehugger99 wrote: »

The thanks-whoring posts are nothing if not predicable.

So would you put the economy before saving life’s?

tobefrank321 · 18-03-2020 11:21AM

facehugger99 wrote: »

The thanks-whoring posts are nothing if not predicable.

When someone is making illogical points, it deserves to be called out, whether that gets thanks or not is another thing.

(Hopefully get a few thanks for this though

).

MOR316 · 18-03-2020 11:21AM

For people complaining about Leo Varadker's speech:

Perhaps you weren't the target audience? I know I wasn't. I was sat there listening, thinking to myself, "Yeah, I know all of this, what's your point? Why am I wasting my time here?"
That's me and probably countless others.

But, we must realise that certain people out there just don't get it or fully grasp it yet and it was aimed at those. People are saying, "He's after scaring loads of people"
Well yes, that is who the speech was targetted at. Those who needed to be informed about the magnitude of the situation, those who put it to the back of their minds.

Me and you might have a well informed, balanced view on it but, others don't.

Do not get me wrong, it hasn't changed my opinion of him, his policies or his political, health and enconomic decisions in the past but, fair is fair, he didn't say or do anything wrong last night

Harry Palmr · 18-03-2020 11:21AM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

What's the story with redundancy during this?

https://www.gov.ie/en/service/be74d3-covid-19-pandemic-unemployment-payment/?fbclid=IwAR3EfiL2hRnvCUKwW1hEilETLfjvdojNZsRdekg-kESCHQsCQiSHrlpIw4Y

This new social welfare payment is available to employees and self-employed people who are unemployed or who have their hours of work reduced during the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) pandemic. This includes people who have been put on part-time or casual work.

There is no restriction on people aged between 18 and 66 years applying for the payment provided they have been in employment up to now and it has ceased.

The payment has a simple one–page application form and will be paid for a period of 6 weeks at a flat rate payment of €203 per week for jobseekers. It is designed to quickly deliver a social welfare payment to the unemployed and provide income security during this 6-week period.

Individuals applying for the payment will be required to apply for the normal jobseeker’s payments within this 6-week period. Once this normal jobseeker claim is subsequently received, the department will process these claims and accommodate payments at that time. This will involve backdating increased payments for certain customers.

smelly sock · 18-03-2020 11:22AM

It will also effect suppliers etc.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 18-03-2020 11:22AM

Sardonicat wrote: »

I also think they should be sprayed with some runny ****e as well, just in case they still don't get the point .

Like Father Ted and the slurry.

Sardonicat · 18-03-2020 11:23AM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Like Father Ted and the slurry.

The very thing!

CIARAN_BOYLE · 18-03-2020 11:23AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

I really think this reflects badly on the HSE.

They couldn't solve the trolley crisis for years and then something like CV comes along and suddenly it solves itself overnight.

There was clearly a dysfunctional approach to solving the trolley crisis up to now, people on trolleys who shouldn't have been there and people now making miraculous recoveries.

How much of it is the cancellation of minor surgeries freeing up ward space?

Rob A. Bank · 18-03-2020 11:23AM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

I wish people would kindly feck off mentioning ‘lockdown’. Most of them can’t even define what it means when you ask them to. Utter gobschites.

There is nothing wrong with facing up to reality. You can't wish the virus away.

China, Taiwan, Singapore and South Korea have shown that it is possible to defeat the virus.

Irish teacher Ben Kavanagh’s journey - from quarantine in Wuhan to the Wirral.

A Chinese student in London went home and became part of the Wohan lockdown.

Cork Boy 53 · 18-03-2020 11:25AM

jamesf85 wrote: »

How many people are unemployed now?

How does this look for the world economy if it continues for 2-3 months?

Will the EU have funds to bail countries like Ireland out? If so how? If not why?

All countries on the planet including those in the EU will be seriously affected by this crisis. I think there will have to be a complete reset of the global financial system. What that will be I don`t know.

UsBus · 18-03-2020 11:27AM

jonnny68 wrote: »

Leo Varadakar really needs to take a step back and think about what he is saying on national TV, the calm before the storm is he for fcuking real as if many people aren't already panicking and anxiety through the roof that was the single worst thing he could have possibly said live on TV and i see he's getting serious stick for it too, between him and that other parasatic bas**rd Michael Martin who only the other day suggested that a government should be formed ASAP to tackle this crisis, so hungry for power even with something as serious as this will do anything to get in.

People were drinking away in packed pubs the last few days before the shutdown. Kildare village was thronged with shoppers on Monday. The people that understand what is happening here were not panicked any more by what Leo said last night. They have the awareness to follow what is being requested of them. Yes everyone is concerned, but it is high time those that need to listen get panicked. What is it that makes you think we are any different to Italy or the UK...???

Above all, they need to start showing respect for the most vunerable in society. This attitude of not giving a sh$t about anyone else needs to change. I thought Leo's speech was excellent, Simon Harris has been working himself in to the ground on this. Now the country is facing a real crisis, the current government has performed admirably.

kowloon · 18-03-2020 11:27AM

facehugger99 wrote: »

The thanks-whoring posts are nothing if not predicable.

Not getting enough fake internet points?

jam_mac_jam · 18-03-2020 11:28AM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Can anyone recommend some good podcasts on the topic - scientific ones? I know I could search myself but I’m trying to keep my anxiety levels down and don’t want to find things that will do nothing but panic me.

This podcast will kill you. They did a good episode recently on it. They do a different disease every week and take it from a scientific standpoint.

Also David mc Williams had an expert on his podcast who was very good. Joe rogan had an episode recently as well where he interviewed an expert. The expert was good but Joe Rogan is not.

retro:electro · 18-03-2020 11:28AM

When they say a dry cough is one of the symptoms, that is a cough where nothing comes up right? Like no mucus? Sorry to be gross

gabeeg · 18-03-2020 11:29AM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

All countries on the planet including those in the EU will be seriously affected by this crisis. I think there will have to be a complete reset of the global financial system. What that will be I don`t know.

I can't remember who mentioned it here first, but this could be the push some states need to give Universal Basic Income a lash.

18-03-2020 11:29AM

retro:electro wrote: »

When they say a dry cough is one of the symptoms, that is a cough where nothing comes up right? Like no mucus? Sorry to be gross

That's my understanding of it anyway.

Ulysses Gaze · 18-03-2020 11:30AM

tom1ie wrote: »

So would you put the economy before saving life’s?

Facehugger doesn't seem to grasp that going for a Herd immunity type approach would destroy the economy anyway when 20% of those that catch the virus need to be hospitalised and a number, 5%-7%, need ICU treatment. More health workers will get it which means less health workers to run the health system.

Facehugger also seems to neglect the fact that a number of people with other illnesses, will be adversely affected by the virus bringing down the health system.

Facehugger thinks this is a head cold/flu thingy that is being overplayed. Only caught by the elderly and people should just get on with it.

What a lot of people here are advocating is take the pain now and recover economically in 5 years.

Facehugger wants to elongate the pain and have an economic and social collapse that will take 20+ years to recover from.

Sardonicat · 18-03-2020 11:32AM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Sorry, I misread what you said. I’m in the exact same boat as you.

Get some sheets, fold in two and cut a hole in the head for them. Get carers to wear them then wash at 90 after each use.
Have hand wash in bathroom for them to wash when they arrive. Have front door open so they don’t touch handles (wash it down each time regardless.
Go on to amazon and order conti dry wipes (or equivalent). PLEASE EVERYONE ELSE DONT BUY THESE UP! Buy the smaller ones for making disposable face masks. There’s a few videos going around of how to do this with wet wipes

I do know that the HSE and agencies are taking on as many staff as possible so that they can try and have the same carers going to the same houses. At least to limit contagion. I know over the years that I’ve been told to do the course and I’ve said “hell no” I wanted my life back. But now, if I lose my folks, I’ll be volunteering.

If you want to have a chat or a rant then PM me. I’ll be your ear xxx

I'll be supplying them with a clean towel to dry their hands and wipes for the taps to use before and after handwashing. I will be going public with this. I don't have the sheets to destroy and I shouldn't have to be doing that. I wllbe going public with this this. Home hpsychology deserve to be adequately protected and so their clients.

tobefrank321 · 18-03-2020 11:32AM

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1240227166148796417?s=20

25 deaths? That's a significant fall isn't it?

I think deaths tell us more about this virus than anything else, about the prevalence and how well control measures are working.

gabeeg · 18-03-2020 11:33AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

25 deaths? That's a significant fall isn't it?

I think deaths tell us more about this virus than anything else, about the prevalence and how well control measures are working.

That won't be their final tally of the day, unfortunately

splinter65 · 18-03-2020 11:34AM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

https://www.gov.ie/en/service/be74d3-covid-19-pandemic-unemployment-payment/?fbclid=IwAR3EfiL2hRnvCUKwW1hEilETLfjvdojNZsRdekg-kESCHQsCQiSHrlpIw4Y

If youre made redundant over this then your employer will have to pay you your redundancy at some stage or if they can’t afford it you’ll get it from the Social Insurance fund.
In the meantime apply for the emergency payment and slap in a proper jobseekers application too.

Syncpolice · 18-03-2020 11:34AM

Anyone know how.dole.works if.company goes week on/week off?

spookwoman · 18-03-2020 11:34AM

Not a good sign and it's not even midday
German 9919 +552 cases +26 dead
Belgium 1486 +243 cases
Austria 1471+139 cases

tobefrank321 · 18-03-2020 11:34AM

Those who have fully recovered from coronavirus and with antibodies could be highly valued as carers in the next few weeks and months.

spookwoman · 18-03-2020 11:35AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

25 deaths? That's a significant fall isn't it?

I think deaths tell us more about this virus than anything else, about the prevalence and how well control measures are working.

I think spain has some some type of rollover count in the morning and then they have another later

fly_agaric · 18-03-2020 11:36AM

Kind of funny (or sad) that the macho 'uber-capitalist' people that just want to get on with it & let the virus run its course etc seem to be showing less regard for human life + general society than the Chinese communist party of all people.

Achasanai · 18-03-2020 11:36AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

I really think this reflects badly on the HSE.

They couldn't solve the trolley crisis for years and then something like CV comes along and suddenly it solves itself overnight.

There was clearly a dysfunctional approach to solving the trolley crisis up to now, people on trolleys who shouldn't have been there and people now making miraculous recoveries.

They're cancelling non-serious operations and, in some cases, serious operations! They're preparing for what's coming.

kowloon · 18-03-2020 11:36AM

retro:electro wrote: »

When they say a dry cough is one of the symptoms, that is a cough where nothing comes up right? Like no mucus? Sorry to be gross

Yeah, if you're spraying mucus everywhere it's a productive cough.

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP