CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

Christy42 · 17-03-2020 07:38PM

Irish_peppa wrote: »

But sure if Idris Elba has it and has no symptoms couldnt 50% of the population have this virus allready and not even know !

Yeah. The stats are interesting but also more of a sign of how much testibg a country is doing.

However 50% having it and not knowing it isn't a bad thing. As long as they are not visiting their Granny's and other at risk people they won't pass it onto them. Then they will get over it and likely have immunity bringing in hers immunity. Unfortunately we are unlikely to be that lucky

Humberto Salazar · 17-03-2020 07:39PM

walshb wrote: »

I’d be wary these celebs and their virus claims....

Anything for column inches.

Slight smell of cynicism there, but I could be wrong...

Strazdas · 17-03-2020 07:40PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1239963765241569281

How does that compare to Monday......are the numbers still climbing day on day?

RoryMac · 17-03-2020 07:40PM

owlbethere wrote: »

Would Ireland turn out better if we added in one of Boris Johnsons techniques and if Ireland was to ask the over 70s to self isolate or reduce their - outings. Our health service might be able to cope a little bit better.

I definitely think over 70s should be told to isolate immediately but they need to put proper supports in place for these people with food deliveries and even just people to call in to spend time with them helping them set up communication to family and friends so that they don't feel the isolation means they are forgotten.

Probably missed the boat on this though as the from talking to family and friends today it seems the majority of the country are either working from home or off work indefinitely now. But still these supports for the most vulnerable need to be ramped up immediately

pjohnson · 17-03-2020 07:40PM

walshb wrote: »

I’d be wary these celebs and their virus claims....

Anything for column inches.

Tbf after Trudeau's wife there was an image of Elba, Lewis Hamilton and Trudeau's wife at an event together doing the rounds this weekend. Its not like Elba's test came from nowhere he was exposed to a positive case so symptoms or not he was exposed and carrying.

We've been told from the start you can have it with no symptoms developed for a while.

citytillidie · 17-03-2020 07:41PM

LRNM wrote: »

My parents are due to holiday in Greece at the end of April.
I've been trying to tell them for weeks now that it's cancelled but they're in so much denial.

Doesn't help that bookings.com are being pure scummy and leading them on saying all is well and their bookings are still valid etc.

All booking sites will do that, they do not want to lose out on money until they have to

Hobgoblin11 · 17-03-2020 07:41PM

Jesus the positive numbers will sky rocket once the new test kits arrive on Thursday

RandomName2 · 17-03-2020 07:41PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

This.

A positive result is not a death sentence or cause for panic.

Oh absolutely. It's perfectly reasonable to assume that all 69 people may recover. This has never been about individual cases though, but about spread.

Think about cancer. Now think the complete opposite. That's covid-19.

The risk isn't so much in terms of the individual, but the wider community. The worry with the 69 cases should be the question 'who may they have spread the infection to'.

It is reasonable to assume that there may be no fatality in 69 infections, it becomes unreasonable at 200 infections. 69 cases should be easy for our health services to cope with. The issue is if we find ourselves with 20000 infections. That's perfectly possible, but it is also perfectly possible to prevent it.

greenpilot · 17-03-2020 07:41PM

For a country of under 5 million, we Irish have contributed enormously to solving the problems of countless countries around the world for hundreds of years. Our Engineers, Scientists, Mathematicians, etc are up there with the best in the world. We are very good problem solvers and necessity is the mother of all invention.
We will bring this Virus to church. I'm convinced of it. We are some of the worst self deprecating people on the planet, but when our backs are against the wall, we kick was and chew gum.
We've just run out of gum.
Our front line workers will rise to the challenge and we will be an example of how to deal with this crisis the right way, while at the same time retaining our dignity and social cohesion. Our society has a strange quirk which will get us through this, especially if you compare us as a people to those in the UK and lots of European countries.

VinLieger · 17-03-2020 07:41PM

Germanys numbers make no sense when compared with France or Spain, even if you take their low deaths as being true their recovered and serious/critical numbers can not be accurate

begbysback · 17-03-2020 07:42PM

Theres something not right about Italy, UK France & Australia have more Chinese immigrants than Italy, the blood group study numbers are far too small a sample, but even there Italy has no higher % of deemed to be at risk blood group.

It would only make sense if the outbreak was first centralised there, but why Italy. Australia for example has a much higher % of Chinese immigrants than Italy, yet is far behind in deaths. Would it not make more sense if the virus first spread to there?

Talisman · 17-03-2020 07:42PM

pjohnson wrote: »

I was wondering was that it. Odd they dont just say the province then.

The people of Cavan, Monaghan and Donegal might be fearful that they have to answer for the cases in NI.

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 17-03-2020 07:42PM

LRNM wrote: »

My parents are due to holiday in Greece at the end of April.
I've been trying to tell them for weeks now that it's cancelled but they're in so much denial.

Doesn't help that bookings.com are being pure scummy and leading them on saying all is well and their bookings are still valid etc.

Listen if you've already told them and they watch/listen to the news then they are well informed.

Some people don't want to accept the reality of this (I've found that a lot of older folk are in complete denial).

We cancelled our April trip a month ago.

If they don't cancel we'll then that's up to them to decide as adults, they won't be going on the trip either way.

Mwengwe · 17-03-2020 07:42PM

grindle wrote: »

Presume the worst to prepare for it. 275 cases. 20% of cases are severe as in needing hospitalisation. Not seeking it, but needing it. Near 60 people who need repirators in Ireland, all in one month, in a country that keeps less than 300 respirators for normal business.

20-30% reduction in lung capacity for people who get through it, lung cancer will increase over the next 2-3 decades due to dead cells mutating or being cockblocked. The new norm.

"Be grand"

I hope the people who went to Cheltenham and Templebar last week choke on their own stupidity.

Dangerously uninformed posting.

stephenjmcd · 17-03-2020 07:42PM

Dilan Stocky Tiller wrote: »

As of yesterday we had 5 recovered. One in the East and the cluster of 4 from Clare (inc the GP).

At least they didn't drag out the information tonight.

Will take time for that number to go up, cases grew at a slow rate for the first week or 2.

Hobgoblin11 · 17-03-2020 07:42PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Germanys numbers make no sense when compared with France or Spain, even if you take their low deaths as being true their recovered and serious/critical numbers can not be accurate

german people are stronger than the rest

RoryMac · 17-03-2020 07:43PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Did the they mention anything about the staff need to operate them. From what I've read it's highly specialised and so the staff could be the limiting factor even if we have the machines.

They've written to recently retired staff to ask them to come back to work to help out, I'd hope staff are being trained up too to work these machines

spookwoman · 17-03-2020 07:43PM

France
new cases 1097 deaths 27
Totals 7700 175

caveat emptor · 17-03-2020 07:43PM

Italian figures by region for today.

Ricoverati con sintomi = Hospitalised
Terapia intensiva = Intensive care
Isolamento domiciliare = Isolated at home
Totale attualmente positivi = Total currently positive
DIMESSI/ GUARITI = Cured
DECEDUTI = Dead
CASI TOTALI = Total Cases
TAMPONI = Tests

Strazdas · 17-03-2020 07:44PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

Jesus the positive numbers will sky rocket once the new test kits arrive on Thursday

Not necessarily a bad thing. Dr Holohan says they will be watching the numbers like a hawk this weekend to see what impact social distancing is having. Sunday or so should be the first indicator.

Cork Boy 53 · 17-03-2020 07:44PM

The government just needs to shutdown all non essential services now tonight. The pussyfooting around has got to stop. Another few days will be too late.

Kermit.de.frog · 17-03-2020 07:44PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Germanys numbers make no sense when compared with France or Spain, even if you take their low deaths as being true their recovered and serious/critical numbers can not be accurate

I'm fairly sure I saw somewhere Germany was only reporting deaths that are exclusively due to coronavirus. Not sure though.

VinLieger · 17-03-2020 07:45PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Italian figures by region for today.

Ricoverati con sintomi = Hospitalised
Terapia intensiva = Intensive care
Isolamento domiciliare = Isolated at home
Totale attualmente positivi = Total currently positive
DIMESSI/ GUARITI = Cured
DECEDUTI = Dead
CASI TOTALI = Total Cases
TAMPONI = Tests

Jesus Lombardy really is the Italian Wuhan, hopefully the lockdown starts to show results in the other regions soon.

17-03-2020 07:45PM

RoryMac wrote: »

They've written to recently retired staff to ask them to come back to work to help out, I'd hope staff are being trained up too to work these machines

Surely its reckless to ask retirees back to work on frontline??

Like put them out back on contact tracing etc??

Antares35 · 17-03-2020 07:45PM

completedit wrote: »

Honestly, what do people get from the above “5000 cases in Madrid”, we know the situation, we know it’s highly contagious but we also know a small fraction of these people will end up suffering, let alone dying, I get it, we are living in epochal changing times, but I just feel this constant updates of cases emanating from Italy, now Spain, misses the point and sort of trivializes what’s happening.

What’s important is the hospitals are able to cope. Sadly people will die even if they can cope.

I actually think some people thrive on stuff like that. Its likes someone posts something remotely hopeful and they are shot down with a reminder that we will all die and the world is f*cked. Its a kind of doom junkyism, likely a first cousin of voyeurism, the same ones who stop and rubber neck at fatal car crashes.

callaway92 · 17-03-2020 07:45PM

walshb wrote: »

I’d be wary these celebs and their virus claims....

Anything for column inches.

What a weird thing to say.

You’re skeptical he’s lying???

You come out with some great comments Walsh... my god

completedit · 17-03-2020 07:45PM

How come the purported “top class” Northern Italian medical suffered so poorly. How come we didn’t eat horror stories from Spanish ICU’s like we have in Italy?

Lord TSC · 17-03-2020 07:46PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I'm fairly sure I saw somewhere Germany was only reporting deaths that are exclusively due to coronavirus. Not sure though.

Coupled with their intensive testing procedures.

RoryMac · 17-03-2020 07:46PM

begbysback wrote: »

Theres something not right about Italy, UK France & Australia have more Chinese immigrants than Italy, the blood group study numbers are far too small a sample, but even there Italy has no higher % of deemed to be at risk blood group.

It would only make sense if the outbreak was first centralised there, but why Italy. Australia for example has a much higher % of Chinese immigrants than Italy, yet is far behind in deaths. Would it not make more sense if the virus first spread to there?

Fashion industry I'd guess, lots of Italian clothes companies traveling to China to their manufacturing plants to work on new ranges of clothes especially in northern Italy

Xertz · 17-03-2020 07:46PM

VinLieger wrote: »

Germanys numbers make no sense when compared with France or Spain, even if you take their low deaths as being true their recovered and serious/critical numbers can not be accurate

Methodologies may be differing across different countries both in terms of testing and what's being reported.

I would be a little careful about making direct comparisons right now.

They're all doing their own thing.

All you can really look at is trends. They're showing what's working and what isn't.

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP