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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #5912
    maxpowers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭maxpowers


    Downlinz wrote: »
    It can continue for as long as is necessary

    Not sustainable. It will cripple people financially and mentally. People wont put up with it for this long. We will have to face the music eventually unfortunately.


  • #5913
    4068ac1elhodqr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Vaxine would normally be much longer,
    But I can see one been rushed through this is an extreme situation.
    The FDA signalled a warning about anyone seeking to rush it through too fast (human trials are often small scale). You may want to skip the v.1 release, to see it there is any adverse effects.

    Surely it would be the fastest vax in history if it was created, and ready for mass roll out in 16mths circa from scratch.


  • #5914
    Humberto Salazar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    ITman88 wrote: »
    Lockdown/ restricted movements can not continue for 6 months.

    Exactly, at some point we're going to have to emerge from the shelters. Get this country moving, it's not sustainable what's going on now.


  • #5915
    mick987
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭mick987


    ITman88 wrote: »
    Lockdown/ restricted movements can not continue for 6 months.
    I never said they would be lockdowns for 6 months. I said it will be six months before we get back to some sort of normality. During that time they will have to inforce lockdowns as when and how long don't know.


  • #5916
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    That's obviously what i meant.

    Look if you don't care about the health of your parents that's fine just consider that for some people some things are more important than money.

    It's not like the banks are going to foreclose for a month or two of payments. There are obviously going to be concessions made by the banks. As in other countries.

    What about those that rent? Or people without kids. They have no worries?

    Why are speculating on my thoughts on the health of my parents??????? It’s unbelievably arrogant.
    They are at home and Iv being in contact by telephone to see what the need from the shops, they are at risk so I drop the shopping in and will continue this for as long as needs be.

    I hope it’s a simplistic as you say about banks making concessions. If it is then we worry only about the virus.

    Others don’t share your simplified view, specifically some of the 140k who have lost jobs in the space of a week.


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  • #5917
    Brianmwalker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 119 ✭✭Brianmwalker


    Downlinz wrote: »
    It can continue for as long as is necessary

    No it can't


  • #5918
    micks_address
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,198 ✭✭✭micks_address


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Vaxine would normally be much longer,
    But I can see one been rushed through this is an extreme situation.

    Human trials started yesterday in Seattle

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/03/17/health/coronavirus-vaccine-first-dose-participant/index.html

    Very early days but there's every resource being thrown at it..also reports from Australia that current hiv drugs are having very high success with treating the virus.

    I'm not saying anything is going to happen overnight but every day is a day closer to a vaccine or better treatment drugs.


  • #5919
    The Belly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 572 ✭✭✭The Belly


    The US have announced helicopter money for the public

    https://www.investing.com/news/economy/breaking-mnuchin-says-government-wants-to-send-stimulus-checks-2113102


  • #5920
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Brianmwalker wrote: »
    No it can't

    It hasn't started yet. Pubs closed. Big deal. Hundreds of thousands will be mingling with each other as we are all back to work


  • #5921
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    BurnUp78 wrote: »
    How is potentially losing your job and spending the summer in isolation with a restricted social life and not knowing when you'll be able to return to school/college not scary? It's a scary scenario at any age.

    Scary but at least we have Netflix. It’s not like we are being sent to the eastern front. Context


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  • #5922
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    TheCitizen wrote: »
    How do you know?

    Been answered already. The economic/ societal effects will outweigh and benefit


  • #5923
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Trump "I always knew this was a Pandemic, I always felt this was a Pandemic looking at other countries"

    ****ing hell


  • #5924
    sadie1502
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭sadie1502


    How many people are actually in hospital in Ireland due to covid 19 at present? Is it the 5 or 6 people in critical care only?


  • #5925
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Humberto Salazar wrote: »
    Exactly, at some point we're going to have to emerge from the shelters. Get this country moving, it's not sustainable what's going on now.


    well you better develop some patience. This slowdown/lockdown is only about about 5 days old!
    Will be a long time before "we emerge from the shelters", we've only just gone in!! In fact I'm still working and hoping I'm allowed stop soon.


  • #5926
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Griffin Tasteless Floor wrote: »
    There's no vaccine for SARS (or any other Coronavirus).

    This is because it died out and research was suspended, not because it was not possible.


  • #5927
    Humberto Salazar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    Humberto Salazar wrote: »
    Exactly, at some point we're going to have to emerge from the shelters. Get this country moving, it's not sustainable what's going on now.

    The vulnerable and elderly must be looked after the longest, they need protection for as long as it takes. The rest of us have to work, get a wage. The curve must flatten first and once it starts too, were going to have to chance it.


  • #5928
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    French Open moved to September, just a week after US Open.

    Just cancel it!!


  • #5929
    Downlinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    maxpowers wrote: »
    Not sustainable. It will cripple people financially and mentally. People wont put up with it for this long. We will have to face the music eventually unfortunately.

    The alternative of letting the virus take its course isn't sustainable to business either. A large chunk of every organisations employees will be off sick for up to a month, some of them will die. Many folks won't want to return to work and society for fear of death at a time when the bodies are piling up and the hospitals can't cope.
    It's farcical to think business can operate in that kind of world.


  • #5930
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    The Belly wrote: »
    The US have announced helicopter money for the public

    https://www.investing.com/news/economy/breaking-mnuchin-says-government-wants-to-send-stimulus-checks-2113102

    Just wait for the next US deficit figures.


  • #5931
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    Downlinz wrote: »
    It can continue for as long as is necessary

    No it cant


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  • #5932
    Mwengwe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 454 ✭✭Mwengwe


    ITman88 wrote: »
    Lockdown/ restricted movements can not continue for 6 months.

    Is that an admission that we're going to have to go back to normal in the knowledge that we're probably going to freely infect people who will die? No easy answers here.


  • #5933
    Spook_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Message from the NTA to Taxi Drivers

    Following a request from Assistant Commissioner Pat Leahy, we would like to remind you about the importance of social distancing from fellow drivers. Today, Gardai driving around Dublin City centre witnessed groups of drivers huddled together. The Gardai requested that they keep their distance from each other to protect their health and that of their families, together with their passengers. Please practice social distancing and hand hygiene.


    FFS they'll be closing down social media like Boards next to stop any dissent


  • #5934
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    Downlinz wrote: »
    The alternative of letting the virus take its course isn't sustainable to business either. A large chunk of every organisations employees will be off sick for up to a month, some of them will die. Many folks won't want to return to work and society for fear of death at a time when the bodies are piling up and the hospitals can't cope.
    It's farcical to think business can operate in that kind of world.

    It worked in Singapore


  • #5935
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    peddlelies wrote: »
    China the country should be criticised, they skin dogs and other animals alive for their fur and toss Muslims and other religious people into "re-education" camps. There's no freedom of speech, the internet and other media is heavily censored and doctored for propaganda purposes. There's no religious or political freedom. They've executed more people than the rest of the world combined over the past couple of decades, many of which were innocent people. The whole reason those markets came about and they started eating everything like rats is because people were starving due to the communist regime.

    It's one of the worst countries on planet earth.

    I take it you haven’t been anywhere apart from Spain. Don’t dis it TIL you try it!


  • #5936
    Humberto Salazar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    Downlinz wrote: »
    The alternative of letting the virus take its course isn't sustainable to business either. A large chunk of every organisations employees will be off sick for up to a month, some of them will die. Many folks won't want to return to work and society for fear of death at a time when the bodies are piling up and the hospitals can't cope.
    It's farcical to think business can operate in that kind of world.

    I'm suggesting once the curve flattens out, the health service will be well able to handle the additional cases once we do go back to work. Yes that may take more than a month, it may take three, but that's the max. After that we've got to let it run its course where it will.


  • #5937
    GM228
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    niallo27 wrote: »
    This is because it died out and research was suspended, not because it was not possible.

    Apparently a vaccine was close when funding was pulled:-

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/05/scientists-were-close-to-a-sars-coronavirus-vaccine-years-ago.html


  • #5938
    Downlinz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    ITman88 wrote: »
    It worked in Singapore

    The same Singapore currently considering a lockdown?

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/coronavirus-singapore-will-not-rule-out-lockdown-but-not-on-the-cards-for-now-says


  • #5939
    MipMap
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MipMap


    BurnUp78 wrote: »
    How is potentially losing your job and spending the summer in isolation with a restricted social life and not knowing when you'll be able to return to school/college not scary? It's a scary scenario at any age.


    Well, There's also the Italian Option.


  • #5940
    Humberto Salazar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    Mwengwe wrote: »
    Is that an admission that we're going to have to go back to normal in the knowledge that we're probably going to freely infect people who will die? No easy answers here.

    Swine flu swept through here, it didn't stop the economy, although many got it, got sick. We'll have to bite the bullet, there's no right answer or correct way.


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  • #5941
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    Humberto Salazar wrote: »
    The vulnerable and elderly must be looked after the longest, they need protection for as long as it takes. The rest of us have to work, get a wage. The curve must flatten first and once it starts too, were going to have to chance it.

    Exactly this. Will answer some of the previous questions


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