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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #5852
    SeaBreezes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    Griffin Tasteless Floor wrote: »
    There will be plenty of people pointing the finger once we've finished our global economic collapse.

    China only did what they did because they knew the truth would eventually be discovered anyway, they had no other choice.

    And we are supposed to be grateful that they gave us a heads up?

    Food safety regulations exist for a reason. Those markets are disgusting and have no place in any developed country.

    Do you see any other zoonotic diseases causing havoc worldwide that have come from countries with proper food practices?

    YES. Swine flu from US. Enough of the xenophobia please.

    Everyone agrees good hygiene should be enforced. Unfortunately it still does not stop viruses mutating and jumping species.

    And I don't remember any reparations from US for Spanish flu and swine flu?
    Nor from Egypt for smallpox or UK for scarlet fever.


  • #5853
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    We won't be going back to normal in 2 weeks. Amazing the amount of people who think everything will be grand on the 29th March.

    It won’t. But that is the suggest date to return to work/normal before the economic and societal effects outweigh any benefit of extension


  • #5854
    FFVII
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    We won't be going back to normal in 2 weeks. Amazing the amount of people who think everything will be grand on the 29th March.

    Ok 4 weeks, then what?


  • #5855
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,768 ✭✭✭✭blade1


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  • #5856
    konman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 248 ✭✭konman


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    We won't be going back to normal in 2 weeks. Amazing the amount of people who think everything will be grand on the 29th March.

    I think the hint might be in the emergency payment for people losing their jobs, that's for 6 weeks!!!


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  • #5857
    Humberto Salazar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    jackboy wrote: »
    A mortgage is just a long term gamble so there won’t be much sympathy.

    Ridiculous post.


  • #5858
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Last year I had either food poisoning or a viral infection. Considering I never ate anything dodgy, I stayed home.

    I know someone who's going around saying they have a cold. What kind of idiot are they to be going out with "just a cold" during a pandemic with symptoms that start of like a cold.


  • #5859
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    konman wrote: »
    I think the hint might be in the emergency payment for people losing their jobs, that's for 6 weeks!!!

    I'd say end of April before restrictions ease


  • #5860
    Gentleman Off The Pitch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 603 ✭✭✭Gentleman Off The Pitch


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    And the farm boy from Kansas who probably started the 1918 flu, which cased between 50 to 100 million deaths ?

    Was it his fault ?

    Or the 2 children in Southern California who were first infected with the 2009 flu causing about 150,000–575,000 fatalities ?

    Or the two year old playing in a hollow tree with a bat colony started the recent (2013) Ebola epidemic infecting 28,616 people with 11,310 deaths in Africa.

    Measles, smallpox, influenza, HIV, diphtheria, the common cold and tuberculosis all originated from animals infecting humans.

    A pathogen jumping from an animal to a human can happen anywhere and has been happening for as long as man has been on earth.

    Were there are any lessons for China to be learned following SARS but were not?

    How can the claim that we should be thankful to China be reconciled with the claim that if they hadn't tried to hide the outbreak of SARS-2 when it was discovered by one of their own doctors for three weeks, 95% of the cases and fatalities could have been avoided?


  • #5861
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    FFVII wrote: »
    In 2 weeks time we go back to normal spreading again?

    Then what?

    Lay man term's
    Things will run like this for at least 6 weeks
    Try control the rate of infection till we can keep infection to a minimum
    Then slowly relax the restrictions and try and return things back to normal.
    We will never get rid of the virus but hopefully control it to some degree until we have a vaxine.


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  • #5862
    Jim Gazebo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭Jim Gazebo


    FFVII wrote: »
    Ok 4 weeks, then what?

    I think this stresses me out the most of all. When is the end game, as a young person who may or may not get it, when can life go back to normal? If at all? Out of work, home schooling college with no idea if we'll do exams. It's very scary. Life is on hold.


  • #5863
    FFVII
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    konman wrote: »
    I think the hint might be in the emergency payment for people losing their jobs, that's for 6 weeks!!!

    Ok, 6 weeks, then what?


  • #5864
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,085 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    ITman88 wrote: »
    It matter little where they were. The families are utterly devastated beyond belief
    statesaver wrote: »
    What does it matter now ?

    Large gatherings house parties are being advised against, social distancing etc.,

    I think curfewing needs to come in now, get stricter
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #5865
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    Or maybe they have kids so don't want them to loose their grandparents.

    Parents at work will unlikely to be fatal to grandparents


  • #5866
    deisedevil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    ITman88 wrote: »
    We assemble ventilators, we manufacture sweet f€&k all in Ireland

    If we only assemble them then we're at nothing so. Without parts to put together we'll be getting very little from Medtronic.


  • #5867
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,234 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    What about biosafety 4 labs and BioWarfare programs?

    The conspiracy theory thread is here
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=576 (and it's a doozy)

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #5868
    Bit cynical
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭Bit cynical


    FFVII wrote: »
    In 2 weeks time we go back to normal spreading again?

    Then what?
    No the measures will be extended and deepened.


  • #5869
    kyote00
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭kyote00


    UK (England) Health Select committee - meeting today in the smallest room ->

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  • #5870
    Discodog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,011 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    He believes it will be a re-occurring virus now it's established, though the view in China and Sth Korea is otherwise - Vallance said he hopes they are right and he is wrong but doesn't think so due to the properties of Covid 19 as compared to Sars which burned itself out.

    Also the British Medical Journal says do not use ibuprofen type anti-inflammatories https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m1086 the HSE has not updated it's view that there is no reason to stop taking same (unless directed to do so by a doctor)

    Though just to muddy things a bit more -


    Vallance view was that it would be best to treat with paracetamol until more is known.

    Even more confusing the consultant doing our AMA is still saying that it's an unfounded internet rumour & that Ibuprofen is fine.


  • #5871
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,401 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    https://twitter.com/HelenBranswell/status/1239951518327025666?s=19


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  • #5872
    Ironicname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Rob A. Bank wrote:
    A pathogen jumping from an animal to a human can happen anywhere and has been happening for as long as man has been on earth.

    Typical. Blaming men.


  • #5873
    Chardee MacDennis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,228 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    US federal government is to make direct payments to US citizens in a helicopter payment.

    Where are you seeing this?


  • #5874
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Large gatherings house parties are being advised against, social distancing etc.,

    I think curfewing needs to come in now, get stricter

    Not a snowball chance of curfew being effective or maintained in rural Ireland.
    Dublin perhaps but it would require massive resources.
    Who’s to say the fatalities last night weren’t helping neighbours, I don’t think we need speculation on road fatalities


  • #5875
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Medtronic in Galway are most likely exporting Ventilators to USA and leaving us shorts.

    There was an EU directive during the week were medical equipment/supplies could not be exported out of the EU unless all the countries agree. Please fact check this, I don't have time to find it now.


  • #5876
    deisedevil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    Jim Gazebo wrote: »
    I think this stresses me out the most of all. When is the end game, as a young person who may or may not get it, when can life go back to normal? If at all? Out of work, home schooling college with no idea if we'll do exams. It's very scary. Life is on hold.

    That's not a scary at all. Having a loved one in hospital in a critical state would be critical. You'll be grand. You've a long life ahead of you hopefully.


  • #5877
    ITman88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 876 ✭✭✭ITman88


    Discodog wrote: »
    Even more confusing the consultant doing our AMA is still saying that it's an unfounded internet rumour & that Ibuprofen is fine.

    Mmmh, which is unusual!


  • #5878
    FFVII
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭FFVII


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Lay man term's
    Things will run like this for at least 6 weeks
    Try control the rate of infection till we can keep infection to a minimum
    Then slowly relax the restrictions and try and return things back to normal.
    We will never get rid of the virus but hopefully control it to some degree until we have a vaxine.
    Vaccine is June/July going by SARS/6 months.


  • #5879
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    greenpilot wrote: »
    Exactly. I was let go on Friday. So this "Stay Home" flaky ****e on Facebook really gets my blood boiling. Staying at home with €200 per week dole and 4 kids plus mortgage is a non runner. I'm prepared to do anything now at this stage, even helping Public Services in some way to get over this crisis rather than stay at home.

    The HSE is asking people to register for roles that they may have experience in. Be it medical training or as support staff. Hope it helps best of luck, I realise the words may sound hollow but unlike 2008 you are not alone.


  • #5880
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Discodog wrote: »
    Even more confusing the consultant doing our AMA is still saying that it's an unfounded internet rumour & that Ibuprofen is fine.

    Colm Henry our chief medical officer said in the press conference this afternoon that ibuprofen is ok


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  • #5881
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    What about biosafety 4 labs and BioWarfare programs?
    US has already accused China based on new bio research facility opened in Wuhan in Dec./Jan. linking it to proximity to food market.

    China has already accused US based on Army bio facility ordered closed in Sept. linking it to deaths allegedly related to vaping.

    Based on usual attribution to sources in State/Foreign Ministry.

    Wait this thing settle down again and expect to see this tit-for-tat ramped up again, it'll be manna from heaven for social media.


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