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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,786 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Apparently 50% of global production comes from Galway, so we certainly shouldn't have a shortage!

    There are a **** load of companies here making medical products and devices.. might have to keep them working and keep stock here, in the country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    If you don't trust the Chinese figures... look at Taiwan, Singapore and South Korea... all doing well in the battle against the virus.

    BTW, As the WHO Expert China Team said we should all be grateful to the Chinese.

    By extending the Chinese Lunar New Year holiday (essentially until just recently) and stopping all travel from their hot spots... the Chinese bought a month of time for the rest of the world... at a large cost to their own economy and in lives lost.


    We all would have had far less time to prepare if all those Chinese people had fanned out all over the world in late January, at the end of their New Year holiday.

    It could have been Italy on steroids for us all at the beginning of February.
    WTF did I just read? Those disgusting barbarians in Wuhan caused this with their ignorance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Strumms wrote: »
    There are a **** load of companies here making medical products and devices.. might have to keep them working and keep stock here, in the country.

    How will we pay them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    froog wrote: »
    okay serious stuff time;

    maccy D's drivethrough - is it pretty safe?

    What if one of the staff has it?
    Cough or sneezes on your food or even the packaging.

    Best using contactless too if you're taking the risk.

    I'm sure it's fine, but if I were in a high risk group I'd be avoiding any take aways or open food.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Lundstram wrote: »
    WTF did I just read? Those disgusting barbarians in Wuhan caused this with their ignorance.

    Glasshouses. How were they ignorant?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    US federal government is to make direct payments to US citizens in a helicopter payment.

    Are these the same NeoLiberal governments who were saying 'there is no money tree' when asked to relieve the austerity we all suffered recently ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    Lundstram wrote: »
    WTF did I just read? Those disgusting barbarians in Wuhan caused this with their ignorance.
    get a grip


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,817 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    US federal government is to make direct payments to US citizens in a helicopter payment.

    Here comes hyper inflationary pressure.
    This round of stock market and bond support from Governments is surely the wrong way to go.

    This lockdown and its effect surely illustrate that a bottom up approach is more likely to cushion this downturn.

    Immediate job losses, the US moved to protect banking and oil.
    If the economy is paramount, consumers and not producers are the engine of it.

    That many Governments now view their citizenry as just that, consumers!
    Surely indicates that maybe a citizen bailout is what's needed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    SARS was contained. We are trying to contain this. This has infected many more people in many more countries and has the potential to kill millions.

    Hence the governments of the world trying to contain it and hide resources being put to work finding a vaccine.
    Vaccines are effective by artificially simulating the body's natural immune responses.

    Body's natural immune response ...
    'SARS2 COVID-19 ... stimulates relatively low levels of antibodies in recovered cases which will reduce to ineffective levels by 3 years'

    Implies repeated vaccination every two years.

    Don't understand 'hide' but a better bet based on current information lies in discovering therapies based on inhibiting COVID-19 reproduction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    Lundstram wrote: »
    WTF did I just read? Those disgusting barbarians in Wuhan caused this with their ignorance.

    We wouldn't have had anything to prepare for if there wasn't such gross unhygienic food practices to begin with.

    In all reality I don't think China will be forgiven by the world.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,887 ✭✭✭signostic


    froog wrote: »
    okay serious stuff time;

    maccy D's drivethrough - is it pretty safe?

    Could drive through restaraunts be closed down and used as testing centres ? Would it work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    BloodBath wrote: »
    Source for this study and the conclusions? The amount of bad science surrounding this topic is astounding.

    Even more so the amount of people taking some completely unreviewed paper with clear bad scientific principles, (saying it reduced the fertility level of patients, patients they had not tested the fertility of prior to infection), as fact then claiming other people are supposing things is more than a little hypocritical.
    Already posted previously.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    kyote00 wrote: »

    https://www.theengineer.co.uk/uk-government-manufacturers-ventilators-nhs/

    Top companies coming on board to make more.
    Reported on sky news today that the UK has 9000 with 3k more coming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,299 ✭✭✭✭BloodBath


    bekker wrote: »
    Vaccines are effective by artificially simulating the body's natural immune responses.

    Body's natural immune response ...
    'SARS2 COVID-19 ... stimulates relatively low levels of antibodies in recovered cases which will reduce to ineffective levels by 3 years'

    Implies repeated vaccination every two years.

    Don't understand 'hide' but a better bet based on current information lies in discovering therapies based on inhibiting COVID-19 reproduction.

    Source for this quote.
    bekker wrote: »
    Already posted previously.

    Post it again then. This thread moves too fast.

    I can already guess it's some random unreviewed unconfirmed study which is now being quoted as fact with no caveats though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    leavingirl wrote: »
    Post of the day. It is almost 100% certain you will die from eating the food from McDonalds before any virus gets you. ðŸ˜
    If this is the things people are labouring over, I don't know how they're going to make any sort of realistic adjustment when the infection rate is around 50% of the population and they can't even leave their houses. Although I'm pretty confident that people who can't forego McDonalds for a few weeks probably are at greater risk. No science behind it, pure conjecture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭coastwatch


    The Trump administration just announced the US government is going to make direct payments (about $1k) in the next two weeks to all workers affected by the shutdown. David McWilliams recommended the same "helicopter money" approach for Ireland last weekend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    We wouldn't have had anything to prepare for if there wasn't such gross unhygienic food practices to begin with.

    In all reality I don't think China will be forgiven by the world.

    You point that finger girl!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    https://www.theengineer.co.uk/uk-government-manufacturers-ventilators-nhs/

    Top companies coming on board to make more.
    Reported on sky news today that the UK has 9000 with 3k more coming.

    Is there any manufacturing sites in this country? I can't find any. I don't know where we are going to get the amount we need.


    Edit: https://connachttribune.ie/galway-based-medical-devices-giants-join-forces/

    Just seen there's a ton of them being made in Galway. Can we claim these for ourselves or how will that work?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    All jokes aside tho it shows how fragile the human race is, imagine this was a ultra deadly virus, we d be wiped out. There are some amount of lessons to be learned from this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Cupatae wrote: »
    All jokes aside tho it shows how fragile the human race is, imagine this was a ultra deadly virus, we d be wiped out. There are some amount of lessons to be learned from this.

    We have experience we far more deadly ones.
    People don't live long enough for it to spread as much.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Jin luk wrote:
    The sharing of information between countries has been a positive though.

    I know but the USA Vs China thing at the moment has me a little edgy but in the grand scheme of things, I just wish I had my life from January back (even though I thought it was **** at the time).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    Cupatae wrote: »
    All jokes aside tho it shows how fragile the human race is, imagine this was a ultra deadly virus, we d be wiped out. There are some amount of lessons to be learned from this.

    There have been warnings for a long time that we’re not listened to


  • Posts: 3,656 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Heat_Wave wrote: »
    Can’t believe GPs closed today. I appreciate that it’s a Bank Holiday but given the unusual circumstances, I would have expected them to remain open. And before the “GPs are entitled to days off too” brigade comes in, perhaps the State could have offered them an incentive to stay open.

    GPs are human too, maybe they have husbands, wives, kids. Maybe they're absolutely wrecked , some of them could be sick. Maybe they're entitled to one day off before the onslaught starts all over again tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 664 ✭✭✭starbaby2003


    I’m so thankful I don’t live here. On the brink of a healthcare collapse, what’ll we do?? Buy more guns .... you couldn’t make this up it would be considered too far fetched.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    We wouldn't have had anything to prepare for if there wasn't such gross unhygienic food practices to begin with.

    In all reality I don't think China will be forgiven by the world.
    Hopefully there will be massive implications for them once this dies down. The utter contempt they show for public health should be punished and eradicated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    deisedevil wrote: »
    Is there any manufacturing sites in this country? I can't find any. I don't know where we are going to get the amount we need.

    Ireland supplies 50% of the global market for ventilators.

    https://www.idaireland.com/doing-business-here/industry-sectors/medical-technology


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    coastwatch wrote: »
    The Trump administration just announced the US government is going to make direct payments (about $1k) in the next two weeks to all workers affected by the shutdown. David McWilliams recommended the same "helicopter money" approach for Ireland last weekend.

    We are basically doing that with the welfare system and it offers long term, on-going support for people. It's actually far more comprehensive and secure. A one-off payment of a grand might get you over a hump, but we're basically going to be giving people considerably more than that monthly, particularly when you add in payments for dependents, health system coverage, housing supports and so on.

    Job seekers is also open for self-employed for the first time since the last budget and the whole process has been simplified and streamlined to a 1 page form or an online form if you've the public services card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 141 ✭✭mick987


    Ellsbells1 wrote: »
    How bad will this thing be if you are unlucky enough to get it? And how long will it take to recover?
    How bad? You die
    You recover? About 14 days on average


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,887 ✭✭✭signostic


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Ireland supplies 50% of the global market for ventilators.

    Parts from maybe a problem at this moment? That would be solved if China clears the virus and gets back to work.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Xertz wrote: »
    We are basically doing that with the welfare system and it offers long term, on-going support for people. It's actually far more comprehensive and secure.

    Job seekers is also open for self-employed for the first time since the last budget and the whole process has been simplified and streamlined to a 1 page form or an online form if you've the public services card.

    But that is evil socialism, it can't be tolerated in the land of the free!


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