CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

voluntary · 17-03-2020 04:40PM

Mwengwe wrote: »

EU's borders closed at noon today. How does that work for Irish people who might need to come home from the UK?

EU or Shengen zone? I think the former which would put UK and IRL outside?

niallo27 · 17-03-2020 04:41PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Between spring 1918 and early summer 1919, 800,000 people became infected on this island with the related death of almost 21,000 of them (statistics of the Registrar General of Ireland 1918-19).

Population at the time was about 4.3 million.

I will leave it to the maths experts here to figure out infection rate and death rate

About 20% and 2.5%

bekker · 17-03-2020 04:41PM

Please stop with the 'herd immunity' meme, the only scientific study of SARS2 COVID-19 is that it stimulates relatively low levels of antibodies in recovered cases which will reduce to ineffective levels by 3 years.

There is still has no vaccine for SARS1 (2003), which is the genetically closest coronavirus to COVID-19, suppositions based on 'flu like corona viruses have no basis they are just that, a supposition.

kyote00 · 17-03-2020 04:41PM

My point was that is pure optical exercise but you collapsed that into Brit bashing...

EDit wrote: »

Which is not what you said...he represents the healthcare workers, and is grilling PHE and the NHS brass on what they are doing to help those workers. Make sense to me.

Also, where did you get the idea that I think their approach is acceptable. I don’t think it has been, but neither has Italy’s, France’s, Germany’s, etc.

Hobgoblin11 · 17-03-2020 04:42PM

Jin luk wrote: »

We will never be the same as we were, when all this is over no1 knows how long but 1 thing is for sure our lifestyles has changed.

The world order has a totally different connotation, this is a health crisis !not a war , we will be ok in a few years , some will die but people die ! Not much will change otherwise

pH · 17-03-2020 04:42PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Between spring 1918 and early summer 1919, 800,000 people became infected on this island with the related death of almost 21,000 of them (statistics of the Registrar General of Ireland 1918-19).

Population at the time was about 4.3 million.

I will leave it to the maths experts here to figure out infection rate and death rate

Which is what is troubling..
R0 for the flu is about 1.3, for covid-19 is may be as high as 3
Ireland in 1918 was a much more socially isolated country with less travel going on.

if we had 800,000 cases of covid-19 over a few months the health service would only be able to help a small fraction of them and we could easily be looking at a death toll of 40,000 - 50,000

Jin luk · 17-03-2020 04:42PM

munsterlegend wrote: »

It’s a bit early to be making such predictions.

I mean as in everything will be disinfected from here on now bleach will be a hot product in the supermarkets alot more than before

cosanostra · 17-03-2020 04:43PM

500 current ventilators 300 new ventilators immediately plus 100 per wk going forward

Jin luk · 17-03-2020 04:43PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

The world order has a totally different connotation, this is a health crisis !not a war , we will be ok in a few years , some will die but people die ! Not much will change otherwise

Theirs a good chance the world will be more united after this

Rob A. Bank · 17-03-2020 04:44PM

Where are people getting these ridiculous figures about a possible 9 month shut down etc. ?

China started it's lockdown on the 23rd of January.

Today :- "Over 90% of large-scale industrial companies in regions outside of Hubei have resumed production, and resumption rates for places including Zhejiang, Jiangsu and Shanghai are close to 100%" (Reuteurs)

https://news.trust.org/item/20200317052430-be82p

Ironicname · 17-03-2020 04:45PM

Jin luk wrote:

Theirs a good chance the world will be more united after this

I really wish that was true.

Sadly it's not. The amount of people using this to further their political agenda is staggering.

Hopefully they see sense before it's too late.

niallo27 · 17-03-2020 04:45PM

pH wrote: »

Which is what is troubling..
R0 for the flu is about 1.3, for covid-19 is may be as high as 3
Ireland in 1918 was a much more socially isolated country with less travel going on.

if we had 800,000 cases of covid-19 over a few months the health service would only be able to help a small fraction of them and we could easily be looking at a death toll of 40,000 - 50,000

Will you shut up will you, there are people here who could actually take you seriously. This type of crap is helping nobody.

jackboy · 17-03-2020 04:46PM

Jin luk wrote: »

Theirs a good chance the world will be more united after this

There is no chance of that.

cosanostra · 17-03-2020 04:46PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Where are people getting these ridiculous figures about a possible 9 month shut down etc. ?

China started it's lockdown on the 23rd of January.

Today :- "Over 90% of large-scale industrial companies in regions outside of Hubei have resumed production, and resumption rates for places including Zhejiang, Jiangsu and Shanghai are close to 100%" (Reuteurs)

https://news.trust.org/item/20200317052430-be82p

Its still unknown if China will have another major outbreak when people start going out and about again probability is there will be

Jin luk · 17-03-2020 04:46PM

Ironicname wrote: »

I really wish that was true.

Sadly it's not. The amount of people using this to further their political agenda is staggering.

Hopefully they see sense before it's too late.

The sharing of information between countries has been a positive though.

Strumms · 17-03-2020 04:48PM

1wizards sleeve wrote: »

One thing IV noticed is how quiet sinn Fein are gone. It's almost like they don't want to be making any decisions . I Wonder why. Could it possibly be that they won't be popular decisions.

As always they go and hide in the long grass when leadership and loyalty is required... like snipers in the grass though they’ll poke their heads out when those trying to do something are at odds to their ideals. Electable? You must be fûcking joking...

bekker · 17-03-2020 04:49PM

Jin luk wrote: »

Theirs a good chance the world will be more united after this

Wish that may come to pass but feel more likely every country will be jockeying about attempting to achieve their best possible position in the new economic and sociopolitical landscape.

RandomName2 · 17-03-2020 04:49PM

niallo27 wrote: »

About 20% and 2.5%

So in the same ballpark as covid-19.

Working class heroes · 17-03-2020 04:49PM

So much for not treating all this as a holiday.
Glendalough absolutely jammers. Half of Dublin must be there.

Loafing Oaf · 17-03-2020 04:49PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Where are people getting these ridiculous figures about a possible 9 month shut down etc. ?

ETA of a vaccine...

05eaftqbrs9jlh · 17-03-2020 04:51PM

They just said in the press conference that they are going to run out of swabs by Thursday. Serious muddling of numbers going on there when giving the figures about the amount of equipment they have coming, the journalists had to repeatedly ask them to clarify.

How close the two on the left are is appalling. Now they're face to face and the second one from the left has her hand all over her face.

The_Brood · 17-03-2020 04:51PM

Working class heroes wrote: »

So much for not treating all this as a holiday.
Glendalough absolutely jammers. Half of Dublin must be there.

I assume that's true because Dublin center is pretty empty for the most part.

dougm1970 · 17-03-2020 04:51PM

mike pence live now telling the press and tv audience to practice social distancing....while theres a gang of them on stage around him all huddled up together

bekker · 17-03-2020 04:52PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Where are people getting these ridiculous figures about a possible 9 month shut down etc. ?

China started it's lockdown on the 23rd of January.

Today :- "Over 90% of large-scale industrial companies in regions outside of Hubei have resumed production, and resumption rates for places including Zhejiang, Jiangsu and Shanghai are close to 100%" (Reuteurs)

https://news.trust.org/item/20200317052430-be82p

Let's wait for satellite image conformation of that level of revived industrial activity, don't take things on trust in geopolitics.

ZX7R · 17-03-2020 04:52PM

Jin luk wrote: »

We will never be the same as we were, when all this is over no1 knows how long but 1 thing is for sure our lifestyles has changed.

I love to believe this, but it won't,
People are quick to forget and will quickly return to what is the norm

leavingirl · 17-03-2020 04:52PM

Denmark makes (any future) coronavirus vaccinations mandatory. A very scary dystopia awaits.

https://www.thelocal.dk/20200313/denmark-passes-far-reaching-emergency-coronavirus-law

Hobgoblin11 · 17-03-2020 04:52PM

Strumms wrote: »

As always they go and hide in the long grass when leadership and loyalty is required... like snipers in the grass though they’ll poke their heads out when those trying to do something are at odds to their ideals. Electable? You must be fûcking joking...

opposition have no platform now

caveat emptor · 17-03-2020 04:52PM

bekker wrote: »

Please stop with the 'herd immunity' meme, the only scientific study of SARS2 COVID-19 is that it stimulates relatively low levels of antibodies in recovered cases which will reduce to ineffective levels by 3 years.

There is still has no vaccine for SARS1 (2003), which is the genetically closest coronavirus to COVID-19, suppositions based on 'flu like corona viruses have no basis they are just that, a supposition.

SARS was contained. We are trying to contain this. This has infected many more people in many more countries and has the potential to kill millions.

Hence the governments of the world trying to contain it and hide resources being put to work finding a vaccine.

dodzy · 17-03-2020 04:53PM

Jin luk wrote: »

We will never be the same as we were, when all this is over no1 knows how long but 1 thing is for sure our lifestyles has changed.

Jin luk wrote: »

I mean as in everything will be disinfected from here on now bleach will be a hot product in the supermarkets alot more than before

Sometimes, this thread...........

kowloon · 17-03-2020 04:53PM

dougm1970 wrote: »

mike pence live now telling the press and tv audience to practice social distancing....while theres a gang of them on stage around him all huddled up together

You have to squeeze in if you want to get on the TV.

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP