CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

threeball · 17-03-2020 03:10PM

JanuarySnowstor wrote: »

Leo Varadkar should close the border because of such large differences between the UK and Ireland. If Arlene wants to make her own decisions leave her off but keep them out!

Only to be accused later of abandoning Irish people in the North. Very unlikely. It would be used as a stick to beat us forever.

pawdee · 17-03-2020 03:11PM

Jesus, I'd murder a pint.

Sir Oxman · 17-03-2020 03:12PM

Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime wrote: »

Just went into Londis on parkgate street

Get a roll made, picked up a drink and a snack

Guy on the till wouldn't pick up any product to scan it and made me clear up the barcodes so he could scan from a distance. Also made it a point I pay with card.

Bit OTT and arrogant if you ask me.

Arrogant because of the way he went about it "stretch out the barcode for me, I like my health I'm sure you do too" being a condescending prick

Nope, not seeing it as him being a prick.

niallo27 · 17-03-2020 03:12PM

pH wrote: »

No I'm assuming that just 5% show up for treatment, there is indeed another 20% of cases that will need some form of hospital care (but not to the level of ICU) which I HAVEN'T EVEN COUNTED.

Once more:

Each 1,000 people that get infected will generated 50 ICU cases (5%)
We would need to get 3,400,000 people infected (and recovered) for herd immunity. (based on our population of 4.9 million)
Every case over 1,000 cases PER DAY overburdens our health service and cannot be treated properly.

Therefore 3,400,000 people getting infected at a rate for 1,000 people per day = 3,400 days (9ish years)

Your not taking into account the % that will never test positive for it at all even though they probably have it, as the previous poster pointed out, 80% of the people on the cruise ship tested negative its impossible 80% of these people were not infected.

Funsterdelux · 17-03-2020 03:12PM

pH wrote: »

So schools closed, bars shut and no travel for just 18 months then?

To be a child again

threeball · 17-03-2020 03:13PM

ITman88 wrote: »

Exactly. It’s doesn’t seem a realistic approach long term

His numbers are miles out.

maxpowers · 17-03-2020 03:13PM

The "true" mortality rate will be much closer to 0.1% than 2%. Its still alot deaths tough!

Loafing Oaf · 17-03-2020 03:13PM

briany wrote: »

Looking at the numbers, RoI currently stands at 223 confirmed cases at around 2 1/2 weeks since the virus officially made landfall. At the same number of days into the Italian outbreak, they hadn't confirmed much more than 20. This begs the question as to whether we're on a worse trajectory than Italy or if Ireland has been more proactive on the testing?

Presumably it started with one or two cases in Italy and spread out gradually. We've has multiple sources of infection coming back from skiing holidays etc. over that period, fires breaking out all over the place.

tikkahunter · 17-03-2020 03:14PM

threeball wrote: »

Only to be accused later of abandoning Irish people in the North. Very unlikely. It would be used as a stick to beat us forever.

Of course he would , it is up to the puppets up there to take action for the people they represent. Thank god they are not in power down here .

statesaver · 17-03-2020 03:14PM

Watching BBC News UK government meeting on the Virus and there is no social spacing at all.

Rob A. Bank · 17-03-2020 03:14PM

cosanostra wrote: »

You're forgetting that China is an authoritarian state they can shut things down like nobody else so it's quite possible they would manage to stop it in its tracks

Taiwan, South Korea and Singapore are doing well in their fight against the virus.

Authoritarianism is not necessary to be successful against the virus.

threeball · 17-03-2020 03:16PM

tikkahunter wrote: »

Of course he would , it is up to the puppets up there to take action for the people they represent. Thank god they are not in power down here .

If you were going to do it it would have to be done by putting pressure on westminister to tell the north to follow our lead until this is over as an all island approach is needed

Nermal · 17-03-2020 03:16PM

pH wrote: »

These arguments are pointless - at the heart of it it comes down to a very simple model.

For a population with age and health demographics like Ireland the rough expected figures are

1% death rate (unavoidable)
4% requiring intensive care (can be saved, but will die if no ICU available)

Your comments on the thread are valuable.

But let’s see a source on your 1% death rate and 4% ICU requirement.

Bearing in mind - under this strategy, the infections will predominantly be in low risk groups. The lockdown will be less disruptive and economically damaging, focused on high risk groups and those who interact with them.

I think you’re off, by a factor of at least ten, and we could get herd immunity in nine months, not nine years, at the cost of about 3,500 deaths.

Lord Trollington · 17-03-2020 03:18PM

Easton Stale Sack wrote: »

300 ventilators secured on top of our 500 already and expect to secure 100 every week from here on in. Relief to hear that now from the CMO press conference.

Source ?

pH · 17-03-2020 03:18PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Your not taking into account the % that will never test positive for it at all even though they probably have it, as the previous poster pointed out, 80% of the people on the cruise ship tested negative its impossible 80% of these people were not infected.

No it's not impossible. What evidence to you have that more than 20% of the Diamond Princess passengers actually contracted the virus?

What flaws can you detect in this study?
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.05.20031773v2.full.pdf

kyote00 · 17-03-2020 03:18PM

On Sky News at the moment, you have the UK health minister asking questions of the NHS bosses - like some sort of tribunal....

passing the book/responsibility big time.... optics of the room setup have been very carefully setup to re-enforce this...

they are all wedged into a small room - no spacing

Esel · 17-03-2020 03:18PM

Italy has a lot of connections with China through the textile industry.

Iran is connected to China through their common hatred of the US.

I can see how these two countries are the hardest hit outside of China tbh.

td2008 · 17-03-2020 03:19PM

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Source ?

HSE briefing on RTE news now

cherryghost · 17-03-2020 03:19PM

3-4 days waiting for a test to be done atm

wakka12 · 17-03-2020 03:19PM

maxpowers wrote: »

The "true" mortality rate will be much closer to 0.1% than 2%. Its still alot deaths tough!

If the mortality rate was 0.1% , the same as flu, then it would not collapse the healthcare infrastructure of Italy. Otherwise this would happen every winter in Italy during flu season. I seriously am astounded that there are so many people who STILL think this is as dangerous as flu

Seamai · 17-03-2020 03:19PM

Sir Oxman wrote: »

Nope, not seeing it as him being a prick.

Nor me, I felt uneasy 2 weeks ago when someone took my sandwich off me to scan it, I'd have preferred to do it myself. Contacless is great in these time until they take the card off you to scan it themselves.

kevcos · 17-03-2020 03:19PM

Last months: Boards members each fully conversant in, and explicitly know how to solve, all manner of Global trade, financial and political fallouts resulting from Brexit.

This months: Boards members demonstrate PHD level understand of virology, sociology and disaster management.

Next months: Boards Mission to Mars?

wadacrack · 17-03-2020 03:20PM

Esel wrote: »

Italy has a lot of connections with China through the textile industry.

Iran is connected to China through their common hated of the US.

I can see how these two countries are the hardest hit outside of China tbh.

Saw a post on Reddit which explained that many Chinese departed for Italy and Madrid in January. Lots of students etc.

Hobgoblin11 · 17-03-2020 03:20PM

kyote00 wrote: »

On Sky News at the moment, you have the UK health minister asking questions of the NHS bosses - like some sort of tribunal....

passing the book/responsibility big time.... optics of the room setup have been very carefully setup to re-enforce this...

they are all wedged into a small room - no spacing

Didn’t strike me as such , struck me as this is not a big deal, stiff upper lip stuff like

Hamsterchops · 17-03-2020 03:20PM

tikkahunter wrote: »

Of course he would , it is up to the puppets up there to take action for the people they represent. Thank god they are not in power down here .

I guess you're referring to the DUP, whose Covid stance is based on their medical advice, the same advice that also allowed Nicola Sturgeon to make the same decisions re keeping schools open in Scotland.

We don't know what professional advice is right or wrong yet. Westminster/Edinburgh/Belfast/Cardiff all have their top people advising, and we have Europe who dictates our Covid policy.

Blueshoe · 17-03-2020 03:21PM

kyote00 wrote: »

On Sky News at the moment, you have the UK health minister asking questions of the NHS bosses - like some sort of tribunal....

passing the book/responsibility big time.... optics of the room setup have been very carefully setup to re-enforce this...

they are all wedged into a small room - no spacing

How many offices will be open tomorrow here with people at desks near each other?
How many people will use public transport in the morning?

This UK blaming while we are so great rhetoric is ridiculous.

Ellsbells1 · 17-03-2020 03:22PM

How bad will this thing be if you are unlucky enough to get it? And how long will it take to recover?

is_that_so · 17-03-2020 03:22PM

Lord Trollington wrote: »

Source ?

HSE press conference with Paul Reid, referenced in RTE feed.

More good stuff I think

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0317/1123663-coronavirus-ireland/

leck · 17-03-2020 03:23PM

otnomart wrote: »

In the British Medical Journal today:
Covid-19: ibuprofen should not be used for managing symptoms, say doctors and scientists

https://www.bmj.com/content/368/bmj.m1086?

"The HSE is today, (Monday 16th March 2020), advising anyone with Covid-19 to continue to take any medication you were already taking, unless you are told not to by a healthcare professional. This includes anti-inflammatories (NSAID) such as ibuprofen, naproxen or diclofenac.

In response to false information about anti-inflammatory medication and Covid-19 circulating in media and on social media over the last 24 hours, Dr Colm Henry, Chief Clinical Officer of the HSE advises, “Only take one anti-inflammatory medication at a time. It is okay to take paracetamol and an anti-inflammatory like ibuprofen at the same time."

Read the HSE guidelines here
https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/media/pressrel/advice-about-anti-inflammatory-medication-and-covid-19.html

is_that_so · 17-03-2020 03:23PM

Ellsbells1 wrote: »

How bad will this thing be if you are unlucky enough to get it? And how long will it take to recover?

Like the flu' for mild cases and 14 days isolation to be sure is what they have been saying.

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP