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So what are the positives surrounding the Covid19 coronavirus?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 ✭✭Ning


    Quieter outside. I can hear birds instead of cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,248 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    this crisis has me thinking already that I work too much and dont go out or on holidays as much as I should, when things get back to normal im gonna change that. id say this crisis will be a wake up call to a lot of people, say you are an italian guy who is a workaholic and all he cares about is money, he is now locked into his apartment/house like a prisoner in mountjoy, when he gets out he is gonna realize what life is really all about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,163 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Someone updated on Twitter: The real winner of this pandemic are the nations's dogs, who are experiencing unprecedented levels of People Being Home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭strathspey


    In the same way that the new democratic structures of the former Eastern Europe were able to claim restitution for past communist endeavours would the world not be within their right to claim restitution from the Chinese government, through the WTO for example, for having facilitated the nurturing of the SARS epidemic and the Covid-19 pandemic by not closing down their wildlife markets and clamping down on mythical remedies like rhino horn for impotence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 GiveawayReborn


    J_1980 wrote: »
    Japan has only 6 new cases, Korea +74.

    The only lasting effect of this crisis will be the superiority of the Asian economic and society model: Strong state when needed and self-responsibility of every individual in everyday life. The cost of nanny welfare state as a lifestyle is simply not financially viable. You need to run surpluses in the boom to cover the expenditures in crisis.
    This well be how European society changes in the longterm in response to this crisis. Will miss the old freedoms and the lack of conformity


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭PaybackPayroll


    Now is the time to finally eradicate the world from nits and headlice.

    I propose that everyone in the world undergoes head lice treatment on a certain day. The social distancing will make it so that nits will have no where to go and become extinct.

    We can also do this for the common cold and other diseases if it works for nits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,182 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I'm generally obsessed with money I always work towards the nice clothes, car, money to blow. Right now I'll be happy just to earn a small wage and have food. Its a strange feeling for me.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    A guy up the road from me ploughed a small field and sowed a half acre of toilet roll.


  • Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    strathspey wrote: »
    In the same way that the new democratic structures of the former Eastern Europe were able to claim restitution for past communist endeavours would the world not be within their right to claim restitution from the Chinese government, through the WTO for example, for having facilitated the nurturing of the SARS epidemic and the Covid-19 pandemic by not closing down their wildlife markets and clamping down on mythical remedies like rhino horn for impotence.

    They could try, and receive a middle finger in response. The Chinese are already suggesting that the original transmission of the virus happened not in Wuhan, but likely outside their borders, but simply popped up on the radar in Wuhan. Also the link with wet markets is a theory, and not something that has been proven.

    In any case, to suggest that China was responsible, and expect a favorable response shows a complete lack of understanding of Chinese culture. Nobody is to blame except for whatever/whoever scapegoat they find. The PRC will not accept responsibility for something like this, because Chinese culture prohibits accepting responsibility. It would be a massive loss of face to admit such a thing, and would mean the end of the Communist party as a ruling body.

    So. Not going to happen. Trying to push China into making restitution would fuel the anti-foreign sentiment both within the party and the general population.. leading to far more aggressive behavior in Asia. Think the versailles treaty with Germany, but with Hitler already in power when it's accepted. The rhetoric, and speeches would galvanize the hardliners (of which there are tens/hundreds of millions) into support for conflict. Simply to show that they're not weak and refuse to be bullied by the West. Again. They have never forgotten past perceived slights by western nations going all the way back to the Boxer revolution..

    So.. if you want a genuine World War with a nuclear power not afraid to use (and no morals against the use of) nuclear/chemical/biological weapons... then sure... it's a wonderful idea.

    Or just be diplomatic, and be patient while China stumbles along trying to shut down the exotic trade, and the wet markets themselves. I'd say the wet markets will be gone in a decade, and the exotic trade will disappear underground in a major way. Given time, they'll fix these problems themselves, simply because the Communist party cannot allow such a system to continue because they don't control it. Internal Public image is important to them, and the virus has become very public.. they'll make the right moves, because they need to regain the faith of those who are angry over mistreatment or stupidity during the quarantine.

    Seeking an apology or restitution will not solve the problem. Understanding Chinese culture and supporting China in this will. You could also push for wet markets to end in the rest of Asia, and Africa too. Along with greater checks on the exotic trade which is already illegal, but do so at source rather than at China. It'll be far more likely to produce a favorable result than pushing China into a corner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    Loads of people out walking this afternoon. The sun will lift spirits.
    Noticing lots of young families out walking and cycling this last few days. It's great to see. Hopefuly the habit will stick with people.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,816 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    anewme wrote: »
    Someone updated on Twitter: The real winner of this pandemic are the nations's dogs, who are experiencing unprecedented levels of People Being Home.

    More walkies.

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,808 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    I’m happy for the dogs that live in nice loving houses of owners.
    But what about all the families living in small apartments, I mean 1 beds with 1 or 2 young child’s, or 2 beds with 3 kids. These are families where parents are working but are in their situation because of the property market whenever they bought or didn’t buy. How does these families self isolate?? Do all adults get sick together and kids then go crazy indoors??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,163 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    I’m happy for the dogs that live in nice loving houses of owners.
    But what about all the families living in small apartments, I mean 1 beds with 1 or 2 young child’s, or 2 beds with 3 kids. These are families where parents are working but are in their situation because of the property market whenever they bought or didn’t buy. How does these families self isolate?? Do all adults get sick together and kids then go crazy indoors??

    Probably.?

    Possibly.?

    No idea.?

    I posted on this thread about the dogs because it's about positives and the pets are a source of calm/support throughout this time.

    There are many threads already for negatives of the Virus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,943 ✭✭✭✭the purple tin


    There definetly won't be a mini-riot in Dublin this Paddy's Day.


    This must be one of the lowest crime-rates we've had in ages.



    I know a couple of people who can really do with a break from the pub. They probably had to use a tractor to pull them away from the bar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,299 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,168 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Ticket tout trade has fallen off.


  • Posts: 413 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They could be a potential positive although I am sceptical as to whether it will actually happen is the idea of keeping the economy going so called helicopter money an idea where the government for example gives everyone with a bank account in the country €1,000 or hopefully more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭terenc


    Criminality and the drug trade to take a HIT, as these scumbags need the cover of people to operate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,168 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    terenc wrote: »
    Criminality and the drug trade to take a HIT, as these scumbags need the cover of people to operate.

    Hard to burgle a house with most everyone indoors.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,623 ✭✭✭Millionaire only not


    Sinn Fein to go back into there box and leave the running of the country to real politicians!
    Hopefully people wil not forget what this standby government have done in times of trouble while others climbed under there rocks and no where to be seen


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭BlackEdelweiss


    A&E departments might be less packed with people who have no real need to be there. I'm sure there are a lot less idiots with very little wrong with them sitting in there these days.


  • Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sinn Fein to go back into there box and leave the running of the country to real politicians!
    Hopefully people wil not forget what this standby government have done in times of trouble while others climbed under there rocks and no where to be seen

    Bit early to be praising this standby government...

    hopefully the people will not forget what happened before the virus too. Irish politics needs a serious shakeup with consideration about the suitability of the politicians, and their general behavior during this crisis.

    As for real politicians.. Meh.


  • Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Maybe all other businesses except the betting industry ones will re-open.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭Braids


    Also now is the time to QUIT SMOKING.
    Breath deep - get through the average 7 minutes of craving and then move on. Keep busy. Chew gum (lesser evil).

    Why are you paying big bucks anyway for a Director of the Cigarette company to enjoy their life (most don't smoke - betcha didn't know that) while Ladies/Gents you are developing eye wrinkles, polluted lungs and additionally related health problems connected with your smokes?

    I type medical GP letters and reports for a living and the main concern of medical Consultants is - if the patient is a smoker.

    QUIT. Remember if anything in life is worth wanting, it's life itself. Be beautiful - grow to love and protect yourself during this time.


  • Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Braids wrote: »
    Also now is the time to QUIT SMOKING.
    Breath deep - get through the average 7 minutes of craving and then move on. Keep busy. Chew gum (lesser evil).

    Why are you paying big bucks anyway for a Director of the Cigarette company to enjoy their life (most don't smoke - betcha didn't know that) while Ladies/Gents you are developing eye wrinkles, polluted lungs and additionally related health problems connected with your smokes?

    I type medical GP letters and reports for a living and the main concern of medical Consultants is - if the patient is a smoker.

    QUIT. Remember if anything in life is worth wanting, it's life itself. Be beautiful - grow to love and protect yourself during this time.

    While I have no issue with other people making their own personal choice to stop smoking... bugger off. Seriously. My smoking habit is none of your business. Look to your own affairs.


  • Posts: 19,205 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I don't think that that stop smoking suggestion was aimed at anyone personally.

    of course it may not be a great time for some in a time of anxiety to do so.

    although there is no point ignoring the fact that smoking does increase the possibility of a severe case if one contracts covid-19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    The people in charge are actually pretty smart (I hope).

    Like these guys (from 4:55)



  • Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    glasso wrote: »
    I don't think that that stop smoking suggestion was aimed at anyone personally.

    of course it may not be a great time for some in a time of anxiety to do so.

    although there is no point ignoring the fact that smoking does increase the possibility of a severe case if one contracts covid-19

    It's a consideration. I've also seen various suggestions online that the tar on the lungs helps protects smokers from being infected.

    In any case, as a smoker, we see enough advertisements, or suggestions that we should stop smoking. We also pay through the nose as being smokers. It wouldn't be corvid to convince us to stop.... there's plenty of other reasons... and we don't need reminding of that.

    We don't need it here too on a topic not even slightly related to it. He/She can talk about that on a thread dedicated to the subject of smokers. And I can avoid such agenda pushing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭terenc


    Has a ex smoker I say "enjoy your smoke "


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    People going off topic here. Can we please get back at looking at the positives?


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