CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

auspicious wrote: »

A trio lads from an ethnic minority were standing in view of traffic in Longford Town joyously hand shaking and hugging each other repeatedly. Obviously giving the middle finger to society.

That's the thing, travellers and other lower rungs of society are never going to adhere to any strict rules that come in. I'm starting to think now maybe we just all need to get it.

Forest Avenue restaurant, Sussex Road in Dublin have their doors open today and there's a queue stretching all the way around on to Leeson Street, with everyone 2 metres apart but as they get to the restaurant, it's a cram.

Money hungry ****ers.

facehugger99 wrote: »

The coming recession has the potential to kill more people than the virus.

Don't go thinking about that too much though or you might get dizzy and fall off your high-horse.

The 'strategy' you seem to be suggesting would ensure a massive death toll and a recession.

There is no way now to avoid a bad outcome. That is what is dizzying for me. All choices now have some dreadful consequences but we must make them.

We must do so thoughtfully and in full understanding of the best available information. Information which in itself will be imperfect and evolving. With respect you seem to be falling into the trap of thinking there is a 'perfect' way out. There is not.

The Panzer (mother) works in the Blanchardstown center and alot of the shops have closed, while a few still remaining open. She works in M&S and she said they were told that it is being kept open because of the supermarket even the flow is next to empty with the lack of customers throughout the day. They have provided the staff with gloves and hand sanitizer at every staff door and at the tills etc but I know my mother has touched her face even tho Iv showed her other ways she can go about doing it, how to remove the gloves correctly and hand hygiene etc She is touch 60 with no underlying issues as far as I know but Im still worried about her all the same.

I explained the possibility of a lockdown which would lead to her having to be off for 2 weeks or more with no income and asked if she had a financial contingency plan to ensure she has money for the mortgage and loans etc. If looks could kill. Has anybody else faced this difficulty when trying to ensure parents/family won't be in any trouble financially? She laughed at me when I explained the reason I was buying the extra bits of food each week since the start of February but she now understands!!! She does not buy full food shops as she lives alone and her situation with working retail, it suites her to buy when she needs it, but Iv been buying for her too. Iv set money aside in my account so that she is sorted financially for at least two months and the same goes for my Dad, who is 64 at the end of this month. He has Bipolar Disorder II and has Aspergers, which is another kettle of fish.

I am, of course, doing my bit to flatten the curve, but the parents are my main concern and I couldn't give a rats arse about my self.

Blueshoe wrote: »

Population of the US : 327 million
Cases : 4,400

Population of Europe: 741 million
Cases : 51,000

Twice the population twice the population with 10 times the number of cases. Very roughly

Give it time

Ace2007 wrote: »

One thing that annoys me is people talking about the government right now - it doesn't matter what they did in the past, it doesn't matter who is in charge, ultimately what we have seen is that Dr. Tony and the crew are making the decisions, and it's really good to see them taking the questions etc - because I feel this removes the political side of things.

It's not the time to talking about funding cuts to hospital and that's why we don't have beds, or that nurses/doctors should get paid more. that's a distraction and just not worth reporting about right now.

This is a time for everyone in society to pull together and help everyone get out of this current situation.

It's actually really great to see so many people helping out in different ways - whether it's sports clubs bringing food for the elderly, or people offering to help mind children of front line service people. As a society we are in this together - everyone of us' actions can impact how bad this gets.

We are lucky as a nation that we are a small country - people will look out for each other, and make sure we are ok.

I also feel that the media should start focusing more on the positives - for mental health and anxiety reasons - doom and gloom day in day out won't help people - talk about the people who make the recoveries, talk about the good that is happening in society - highlight for instance the people helping the front line staff etc.

Exactly. The best advice for dealing with the spread should be applied to how government is run.

They say we should act as if we have it, that will be best deterrent from passing it on.

Our next government should make decisions like their lives depend on it. Make hard decisions, never mind worrying about being elected, do what is required rather than half baked solutions with one eye on being elected in 4 years.

1wizards sleeve wrote: »

One thing IV noticed is how quiet sinn Fein are gone. It's almost like they don't want to be making any decisions . I Wonder why. Could it possibly be that they won't be popular decisions.

Aren't there enough FG shills already playing this record ad nauseam?

BluePlanet wrote: »

On radio they said it's expected over 200k jobs lost this week.

As a species, it just seems that we maybe we are underperforming in the way we construct such tenuous and threadbare social structures such as our economy.

One week of disruption and everything goes to the wall?

We have been fed the illusion of security, the reality is its all paper thin, that we now see, we are not in control.

A machine engineer said something to me years ago as he was elbow deep in grease under a machine with a spanner that has always stayed with me,

"The entire progress of mankind is only 6 inches of concrete deep, which left alone would be swallowed up by nature"

BluePlanet wrote: »

On radio they said it's expected over 200k jobs lost this week.

As a species, it just seems that we maybe we are underperforming in the way we construct such tenuous and threadbare social structures such as our economy.

One week of disruption and everything goes to the wall?

It's not the week it's the potential months this is forecast to last.
If it was a snow week companies would just wait it out

Wibbs wrote: »

Actually yeah T, bloody good point. Today modern tech has made contact tracing very much viable as a tool.

Google probably have a lot of this data on their location services

Denmark closing borders for 3 months...

Burty330 wrote: »

The walkways are for runners , cyclists and walkers. I keep to the most outward part of the walkway as i can and others for the most part do the same.

But there are always those that think that are above everybody else. You sound like those type of people.

Nope. Just not one of those who expects people to get out my way.

ziggyman17 wrote: »

Banks can easily help, Mortgages can be suspended for say 6 months and then the life of the mortgage is extended by that 6 months, the banks will still get their money but it will be just 6 months longer than the original end date of the mortgage.......

Well that is an incredibly simplified view on global banking policies and structures.

PCeeeee wrote: »

The 'strategy' you seem to be suggesting would ensure a massive death toll and a recession.

There is no way now to avoid a bad outcome. That is what is dizzying for me. All choices now have some dreadful consequences but we must make them.

We must do so thoughtfully and in full understanding of the best available information. Information which in itself will be imperfect and evolving. With respect you seem to be falling into the trap of thinking there is a 'perfect' way out. There is not.

Only someone utterly separated from reality would think there is anyway the coming GLOBAL recession can be avoided thanks to the actions of the Irish :pac:

The only question left is how big do we want the death toll.