CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

AmberGold · 16-03-2020 11:27PM

A lot of focus on Ventilators and ICU beds over the last few days.

Great interview with John Crowne on the Last Word, he maintains what we are seeing now no health system can deal with. Northern Italy’s health service is amongst the most modern and best in the world.

We have a window into the future in observing events in Iran, China and Italy, we need to move to total lockdown for at least two weeks.

sterz · 16-03-2020 11:27PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Sauce?

I mean source?

Oh I was just taking the p*ss out of that guys post. His source is his backside.

Jinglejangle69 · 16-03-2020 11:27PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

I know we’re only a few days in to what is likely to be a few very strange months but this crisis has given me serious perspective on the luxuries and freedoms I enjoyed only a few weeks ago.
I only realise now how much I took for granted.

I obviously washed my hands and kept good personal hygiene, but I never gave a second thought to touching my face or drinking from a mug in a coffee shop.
I used to touch clothes in shops, test makeup samples on the back of my hand, and use public bathrooms.
I’d be terrified to do any of that now.

Even things as simple as going out for a nice dinner, a few cocktails with my friends, going round the shops and buying new clothes, going to the gym, booking a nice holiday, having a productive, satisfying day at work... I know it’s the ultimate first world problem but I didn’t realise how lucky I was to be able to do those things any time I wanted.
I can’t imagine doing any of those things now, yet not too long ago I was lucky enough to be able to do them on a semi regular basis, and I didn’t even realise it. It was just life to me.

I can’t even go fo a walk any more, I was out earlier and had to cross the road to avoid a man who was coughing and spluttering into the air and I’ve been anxious about it ever since.

I don’t work in the hospitality or retail industry but as an employee of a small business, I’m likely to be temporarily laid off on Wednesday. I haven’t left my house since Friday and have no intention of leaving it any time soon.

I know life as we know it will change forever but I’ve promised myself that if I get to enjoy those simple pleasures again, I’ll appreciate them so much more. I wish for those days to be back again, this is like living in a nightmare.

Ireland is a great country to live in.

Don't listen to the doom and gloom merchants who used to tell us everyday it's a 3rd world kip and the government are the worst in the world.

italodisco · 16-03-2020 11:27PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Depends on which takeaway I would avoid this one.

Kebab it is so.
Wish me and the family luck

MakingMovies2 · 16-03-2020 11:27PM

perrito caliente wrote: »

Some amount of sentimental teary gobsheens popping up in this thread.

I know we might as well shoot ourselves now according to some of this simpering mob.

16-03-2020 11:27PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

They are not testing

Source?

cosanostra · 16-03-2020 11:28PM

fritzelly wrote: »

If that was the case it would have swept thru Ireland in no time and someone would have noticed the hospitals filling up with seriously ill people

I think they can examine the genome of the virus and pretty much pinpoint when it started

bekker · 16-03-2020 11:28PM

1641 wrote: »

Not only hospitals filling up - a very large increase in mortality among the vulnerable cohort.

If the hospitals truly fill up there will be a large increase in mortality amongst the cohort comprised of those of all ages who normally need to be hospitalised.

Hobgoblin11 · 16-03-2020 11:28PM

perrito caliente wrote: »

Some amount of sentimental teary gobsheens popping up in this thread. The wine must have been on offer.

I love to exploit the planet and not have to pay the piper

cloudatlas · 16-03-2020 11:29PM

It may be the drink but what I got from the silly posh toff's talk is that London is fubarred.

Kermit.de.frog · 16-03-2020 11:29PM

https://twitter.com/jackballoo/status/1239678076507893763

Hobgoblin11 · 16-03-2020 11:29PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Ireland is a great country to live in.

Don't listen to the doom and gloom merchants who used to tell us everyday it's a 3rd world kip and the government are the worst in the world.

are you watching the commitments too??

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 16-03-2020 11:30PM

daheff wrote: »

Wouldn't be surprised if a version of this was in circulation.

It has been theorised by lots of posters that the really bad dose doing the rounds in December and early January might have been the virus.

I haven't seen proof that it was or that it wasn't. That dose was rampant and seemed to be plenty worse than a cold for most. There was a thread on here and all about it.

Maybe the high pneumonia death rates for at risk groups were only noticed when it hit a very dense population like China. China having been through SARS paid attention and discovered it was a new coronavirus.

You'll remember the hospitals here were overrun and many restrictions in place for what was reported as a particularly bad flu season.

I know a few people myself who were hospitalised but recovered eventually.

It would be good news really if it was because it would mean loads of us already had it, but probably wishful thinking.

Best thing that could happen is that this virus mutates to a milder version.

Phibsboro · 16-03-2020 11:30PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

11 billion in corporate tax last year.

From Wiki - Taxation in the Republic of Ireland in 2017 came from Personal Income taxes (40% of Exchequer Tax Revenues, or ETR), and Consumption taxes, being VAT (27% of ETR) and Excise and Customs duties (12% of ETR). Corporation taxes (16% of ETR)

Apparently the top 10 multinationals represented 40% of that 16% so a complete loss of that would be significant.

Larbre34 · 16-03-2020 11:30PM

Greta? Mission complete.

Its like that scene at the end of The Day After Tomorrow where the snow hurricanes subside after destroying the northern hemisphere and all the air pollution is gone and they remark on the clarity of the air.

pH · 16-03-2020 11:31PM

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

people were infected, then cases would soar as soon as measures are lifted.

The report said these could need to be in place until a vaccine is available, which could take up to 18 months.

We are in this for the long haul

Exactly -a societal reaction like Ireland is doing will almost certainly curtail the outbreak, and in about 6 weeks get the cases down to about zero. South Korea has proven this can be done.

But then what? - we would only have a tiny % of our population immune. So when we relax travel restrictions, get back to normal and just one person gets in - it starts all over again, leading to another lockdown. Certainly we will get better at it, we will know what to do, we will have experience, maybe know more about the disease and have better meds, but we will be in outbreak / lockdown cycles for 18 months (until a vaccine or other treatment makes the virus less of an issue).

caveat emptor · 16-03-2020 11:31PM

micks_address wrote: »

By yours numbers 44 percent who get the virus die?

Not my numbers.

Ministero della sanita

Ministry of health.

But yes out of concluded cases that's right. Read it and weep. You should.

http://www.salute.gov.it/imgs/C_17_pagineAree_5351_14_file.pdf

fritzelly · 16-03-2020 11:31PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/jackballoo/status/1239678076507893763

That took me a minute

radiotrickster · 16-03-2020 11:31PM

Anyone know whether the travel ban will include Ireland to the UK?

My partner was due to fly over for Easter to visit family and they’re getting quite upset now, not knowing when they’ll next be home. Hasn’t seen them since Christmas/New Years.

ChikiChiki · 16-03-2020 11:31PM

Grueller Baby wrote: »

Cabra House open in Dublin

https://twitter.com/ChronicOG_2nd/status/1239651580443602945?s=20

Absolute cretins. Doesn't surprise with that kip.

tuxy · 16-03-2020 11:32PM

Griffin Tasteless Floor wrote: »

It has been theorised by lots of posters that the really bad dose doing the rounds in December and early January might have been the virus.

I haven't seen proof that it was or that it wasn't. That dose was rampant and seemed to be plenty worse than a cold for most. There was a thread on here and all about it.

Maybe the high pneumonia death rates for at risk groups were only noticed when it hit a very dense population like China. China having been through SARS paid attention and discovered it was a new coronavirus.

You'll remember the hospitals here were overrun and many restrictions in place for what was reported as a particularly bad flu season.

I know a few people myself who were hospitalised but recovered eventually.

It would be good news really if it was because it would mean loads of us already had it, but probably wishful thinking.

Best thing that could happen is that this virus mutates to a milder version.

Exactly it was a nasty strain of the flu that we have a vaccine for.
I don't understand why people think it must have been covid-19 just because the symptoms were extremely unpleasant.

ceadaoin. · 16-03-2020 11:32PM

SusieBlue wrote: »

I know we’re only a few days in to what is likely to be a few very strange months but this crisis has given me serious perspective on the luxuries and freedoms I enjoyed only a few weeks ago.
I only realise now how much I took for granted.

I obviously washed my hands and kept good personal hygiene, but I never gave a second thought to touching my face or drinking from a mug in a coffee shop.
I used to touch clothes in shops, test makeup samples on the back of my hand, and use public bathrooms.
I’d be terrified to do any of that now.

Even things as simple as going out for a nice dinner, a few cocktails with my friends, going round the shops and buying new clothes, going to the gym, booking a nice holiday, having a productive, satisfying day at work... I know it’s the ultimate first world problem but I didn’t realise how lucky I was to be able to do those things any time I wanted.
I can’t imagine doing any of those things now, yet not too long ago I was lucky enough to be able to do them on a semi regular basis, and I didn’t even realise it. It was just life to me.

I can’t even go fo a walk any more, I was out earlier and had to cross the road to avoid a man who was coughing and spluttering into the air and I’ve been anxious about it ever since.

I don’t work in the hospitality or retail industry but as an employee of a small business, I’m likely to be temporarily laid off on Wednesday. I haven’t left my house since Friday and have no intention of leaving it any time soon.

I know life as we know it will change forever but I’ve promised myself that if I get to enjoy those simple pleasures again, I’ll appreciate them so much more. I wish for those days to be back again, this is like living in a nightmare.

Yeah watching tv and movies you can see all the ways that things have changed in such a short time. Everyone is walking on crowded streets, shaking hands, touching door handles, going to bars and sporting events etc without a care in the world. It seems jarring already and we're only a few weeks in.

I too will appreciate things a lot more if it ever gets back to that form of normal.

Downlinz · 16-03-2020 11:33PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Caolanmcaree/status/1239527415644372994

We eat our children here too

I don't get how British people can be so stupid and how completely thick individuals can rise to highly respected ranks within their society? You never see French, German, Dutch etc people saying nonsense like this.

Class MayDresser · 16-03-2020 11:33PM

Question. Is it wise to wear latex gloves while shopping in a supermarket? Everything I touch, I buy..

Phibsboro · 16-03-2020 11:33PM

Griffin Tasteless Floor wrote: »

It has been theorised by lots of posters that the really bad dose doing the rounds in December and early January might have been the virus.

I haven't seen proof that it was or that it wasn't. That dose was rampant and seemed to be plenty worse than a cold for most. There was a thread on here and all about it.

Maybe the high pneumonia death rates for at risk groups were only noticed when it hit a very dense population like China. China having been through SARS paid attention and discovered it was a new coronavirus.

You'll remember the hospitals here were overrun and many restrictions in place for what was reported as a particularly bad flu season.

I know a few people myself who were hospitalised but recovered eventually.

It would be good news really if it was because it would mean loads of us already had it, but probably wishful thinking.

Best thing that could happen is that this virus mutates to a milder version.

I was thinking the same thing earlier in the week, but if you look at the CDC flu report posted earlier in this thread, the 2019/2020 flu season has been very infectious (though not as fatal as some years). Almost certainly just the flu.

Level 5 Vegan · 16-03-2020 11:33PM

Heard from a mate that the gardai have leased over 250 vehicles at a cost of €900,000 per month, including 50 ice cream vans and several of those long pink hummer limos you see for hens.

gabeeg · 16-03-2020 11:34PM

Downlinz wrote: »

I don't get how British people can be so stupid and how completely thick individuals can rise to highly respected ranks within their society? You never see French, German, Dutch etc people saying nonsense like this.

You just don't speak French, Dutch or German

JP Liz V1 · 16-03-2020 11:34PM

WHO saying test test test but ROI has delay in testing even with symptoms it seems

Mwengwe · 16-03-2020 11:35PM

radiotrickster wrote: »

Anyone know whether the travel ban will include Ireland to the UK?

My partner was due to fly over for Easter to visit family and they’re getting quite upset now, not knowing when they’ll next be home. Hasn’t seen them since Christmas/New Years.

Forget about it. And New Years was barely yesterday. Get them familiar with Skype

niallo27 · 16-03-2020 11:35PM

gabeeg wrote: »

You know I think I might be completely missing your point.

What is it?

You said millions could have it in italy because there is not enough testing, now imagine if this is true. Do you think the death rate is really low compared to the amount that could have it.

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP