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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Thought this was interesting, also does anyone have any data on cities in the south of Italy. There is definitely something special about what's going on in certain areas of the north.

    https://twitter.com/StefanMolyneux/status/1237955364534063105

    Just wrong on so many levels


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭bb12


    fact is we're creeping up the league table of cases worldwide.

    we're doing something wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    You don't care about the hospitality trade.:rolleyes:

    And no it is not essential in the short term jobs will be lost but people are being hired for medical care those roles are essential.


    Hospitality trade do you mean tourism?:rolleyes:

    I think it just a load of brain dead selfish pricks who just want to get pissed.
    Apart from speeding up the spread mindless fu*ktards drunk filling up the A&E at the weekends giving abuse to the staff is not what we need right now.

    I've asked it before - are these ****ing people so selfish, so childish, so indisciplined that they can't forgo the gargle in a pub for a few days?

    If they are, they all need to seek serious professional help once this crisis is over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭ax530


    rob316 wrote: »
    There's a school of thought this virus is here a while. The flu i got at Christmas was the sickest I ever was, the cough and shortness of breath was awful and i didn't have a bacterial chest infection.Not saying I had this virus but it was unlike the flu I've had before.
    I have been thinking this too such bad cough, extremely tired and fever over Christmas looking back sounds like Corona


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭Poorside


    It’s times like these we ask why did the Jews not leave germany?
    Why did the Irish not grow food other than the potato?
    Answer is they were told / didn’t have an option. Don’t be a statistic

    Bloody hell, you really think all we had to eat were potatoes? Read some history books.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭sterz


    bb12 wrote: »
    fact is we're creeping up the league table of cases worldwide.

    we're doing something wrong.

    Or doing something right by changing the criteria for testing and having more people actually tested?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,454 ✭✭✭Airyfairy12


    blackcard wrote: »
    Did Nostradamus, Old Moore's Almanac, any psychics, anyone predict that this was going to happen? If not, they are useless

    I remember reading about Nostradamus prediction about this, or something similar about 4 years ago, I actually tried to find the link the other day but couldnt find it.
    He predicted that after the 'anti christ' presumably (Isis) as the timelines matched and there were allot of similarities, there would be a global viral epidemic. He said the virus would mutate and London would be put under lock down, no one will be allowed in or out of the city. He said the virus would mutate in London and Europe so much that it will be thought to be an entirely different strain from the US.

    He also predicted that the anti christ would break up great britain and would aid in the unification of Ireland.

    I dont really believe in it but it's interesting how it all worked out. I just wish I could find the link, if I do ill post it.

    Be interesting to see how it plays out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,787 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    shoppergal wrote: »
    They said 33% of the first 150 or so cases were in 25-44 age range. Holy crap!!

    Not surprised, that demographic of citizen are more mobile, more active, coming into contact with more people..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,030 ✭✭✭daheff


    It will be limited by the amount of trained staff available to operate them.

    Better that limitation than needing one you don't have.

    People can be trained to use them. Maybe not perfect but I'd prefer a trainee doing it to nobody doing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,118 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    ax530 wrote: »
    I have been thinking this too such bad cough, extremely tired and fever over Christmas looking back sounds like Corona

    If that was the case it would have swept thru Ireland in no time and someone would have noticed the hospitals filling up with seriously ill people


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,117 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,199 ✭✭✭micks_address


    bb12 wrote: »
    fact is we're creeping up the league table of cases worldwide.

    we're doing something wrong.

    Numbers being released now were infected before we closed schools and started social distancing. There's no way to decrease numbers other than time. If we social distance sufficiently then the numbers should stabilise or start to drop Friday week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    They have the power to not listen to the experts.

    That would be political suicide. If you just act on the experts advice then you can throw your hands up and blame the experts if it’s a disaster.
    Go against the experts and it’s a disaster and you’re toast. Goodnight Irene


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    sterz wrote: »
    Or doing something right by changing the criteria for testing and having more people actually tested?

    A bit of bolt I would think.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    Just to give people a bit of reason for optimism...

    I work with some guys in China. I was speaking with one of them today and they are starting to get back to “normal”, things are much more upbeat there in the last week or so. He had been under full lockdown since late January. Very strict. Only allowed out for grocery shopping a couple of times a week. Now they are allowed leave their homes and many are starting to go back to their old routines.

    of chopping up freshly butchered Pangolin for brunch?

    this thing is so scary.

    the cruise ship statistics scare me. it's the only real place where all of a population were tested. half who had it had no symptoms but were contagious.

    how the hell do you stop that without testing every single person in the country or if nobody ever moves out of their houses again...?

    surely have to up the testing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    cnocbui wrote: »
    Absolute end to end nonsense. The Irish government probably gets less of it's revenue proportionally from corporate tax than most OECD countries. The bulk of the revenue comes from taxing the punters.

    I don't believe that the tech multinationals are going to pull out if there's a lock down. Where else will they get an English speaking country in the EU?

    But your point is still nonsense: https://data.oecd.org/tax/tax-on-corporate-profits.htm#indicator-chart

    In each year since 2014 we are well above the OECD average percentage of total tax take that comes from corporation tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,806 ✭✭✭iamtony


    dougm1970 wrote: »
    quoting myself ^^
    lad hasnt been seen today...telling me, via messenger, that hes in a lot of pain....head, stomach, throat...his mother took his temp earlier at 39.1....and he has a constant dry sore cough.
    he tried to get up for a shower earlier and had to go back to bed.
    he hasnt been eating either.
    g.p. said horse the paracetamols into him and wait for virus tester to come.
    be tomorrow now...but hes very uncomfortable.
    wonder if worth bothering a caredoc with, or just wait it out ?

    again...could be something totally unrelated to the virus.....just the fact he has them symptoms this week with all thats going on, and that hes never sick..fit as a hare he is.
    I had the proper flu about a year ago and that sounds exactly how I felt. It was the most sick I have ever been. People dont realise how bad the flu is until they have had a proper one. I was out of work for a month and didnt fully recover for another few months. The pain from coughing and the shivers from the temperate swings are the worst bit after the body aches and pains and not sleeping. I didnt eat for a week solid either so I'd bet flu. Absolute nightmare but maybe not covid 19.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Gulp ~
    The UK's plan has shifted because the scientific modelling showed we were on course for a "catastrophic epidemic".

    A strategy of just slowing the spread of the virus, but not trying to stop it, would have overwhelmed intensive care units.

    The modelling by Imperial College London has been heavily informed by the experience in Italy and is influencing decisions at the heart of government.

    Their calculations predicted 260,000 deaths in the UK.

    Instead the plan is to drive down the number of cases to very low levels, which the models predict will limit deaths from coronavirus to the thousands or tens of thousands.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-51903319

    However, this approach comes with a major problem - there is no exit strategy.

    Without the immunity that would build up if people were infected, then cases would soar as soon as measures are lifted.

    The report said these could need to be in place until a vaccine is available, which could take up to 18 months.

    We are in this for the long haul

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65



    Your obsessed Kermit. Try to get out in the fresh air. Loads of good programmes on RTÉ for you to watch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭Squeaksoutloud


    begbysback wrote: »
    This was posted earlier on this thread about a cure, or vaccine

    https://www.newsweek.com/testing-coronavirus-cure-set-start-australia-weeks-first-participant-us-vaccine-trial-due-1492437



    Does the Italian doctor in this 2:10 not say they are already using these drugs?


    Not a cure or vaccine...a treatment to reduce the impact and hopefully save many lives. If something like this proves positive it will be a massive boost for the world. Whilst we will still have difficult weeks ahead this would provide light at the end of a shorter tunnel. Combined with some her immunity it would reduce the impact and less reliance on a vaccine. The world could also get back to some version of normal sooner. I think it's our best hope out of this or its gonna be a very long one.

    See Prof Luke O Neill's tweet on it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze



    Even Suzanne Reid did a double take when that clown said that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Tootsie_1


    ax530 wrote: »
    I have been thinking this too such bad cough, extremely tired and fever over Christmas looking back sounds like Corona

    Not the only person I’ve heard say this does makes you think. Has it mutated to what it is now and that’s why there are so many deaths globally ? Food for thought guess we will never know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,118 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    I remember reading about Nostradamus prediction about this, or something similar about 4 years ago, I actually tried to find the link the other day but couldnt find it.

    Probably started on Whatsapp but it's fake news - there is no such quatrain


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 GiveawayReborn


    I've asked it before - are these ****ing people so selfish, so childish, so indisciplined that they can't forgo the gargle in a pub for a few days?

    If they are, they all need to seek serious professional help once this crisis is over.

    Selfishness does not require professional help. Also professional help will be too busy dealing with their selfishness. Maybe a bit of social isolation to let them know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    blackcard wrote: »
    Did Nostradamus, Old Moore's Almanac, any psychics, anyone predict that this was going to happen? If not, they are useless

    Well Bill Gates did in 2015.
    He did a Ted Talk called The Next Outbreak.

    https://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates_the_next_outbreak_we_re_not_ready/transcript?language=en


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Your obsessed Kermit. Try to get out in the fresh air. Loads of good programmes on RTÉ for you to watch.

    Your advice to him is to watch TV in the open air?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,459 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    gabeeg wrote: »
    I am.

    Our health care system is going to be overwhelmed in the next week or two.

    We'll be rushing to build capacity, but it's going to be a long time before we can match the virus.

    Impossible. We can put people in beds, but it won't be healthcare.

    In the UK they have more than double the amount, per head, of intensive care beds in normal times and they acknowledge they'll be a million miles off in ventilators and trained staff. So where does that leave us?

    Triage decisions along the lines of "he/she is older, sicker, more unhealthy so I'm putting the effort into the other fella and he's getting an O/D of morphine"

    Assuming there's morphine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,896 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    bb12 wrote: »
    fact is we're creeping up the league table of cases worldwide.

    we're doing something wrong.

    We will see a slowing 14 days after the shutdown.
    The current figures are down to allowing free movement of italians into Dublin. The true effects of that stupidity will only be seen when all this is over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,282 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Anyone else getting whatsapp pictures that trick you into opening a dramatic covid headline and then you're presented a load of old dudes sucking each other off or some such? Gallows humour at its finest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    rob316 wrote: »
    There's a school of thought this virus is here a while. The flu i got at Christmas was the sickest I ever was, the cough and shortness of breath was awful and i didn't have a bacterial chest infection.Not saying I had this virus but it was unlike the flu I've had before.

    I had it too over Christmas . Aches , fever , and a horrible cough . My husband had to do physio to try to relieve congestion on my chest . It wasn’t a cold it was very different . It spread through the whole family starting with a 5 year old


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