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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Apparently its better to destroy to health service and kill off a few hundred so long as people keep their jobs :)
    What a load of nonsensical crap.

    Whats the bloody point shutting down the place then you have no one able to buy a loaf of bread? Have you no cop on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,904 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Yes.

    Hopefully they'll be upping the ICU beds very quickly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭ArchXStanton


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    Just to give people a bit of reason for optimism...

    I work with some guys in China. I was speaking with one of them today and they are starting to get back to “normal”, things are much more upbeat there in the last week or so. He had been under full lockdown since late January. Very strict. Only allowed out for grocery shopping a couple of times a week. Now they are allowed leave their homes and many are starting to go back to their old routines.

    I was speaking to a sales agent I used to deal with in China, she told me things are going back to normal BUT... You have to take the social distancing thing seriously, some of them were doing it for 1-2 months only leaving their apartments once a week to buy food


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,052 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    Just to give people a bit of reason for optimism...

    I work with some guys in China. I was speaking with one of them today and they are starting to get back to “normal”, things are much more upbeat there in the last week or so. He had been under full lockdown since late January. Very strict. Only allowed out for grocery shopping a couple of times a week. Now they are allowed leave their homes and many are starting to go back to their old routines.

    Yeah we arent as competent as China. We want a nice spread for all. We dont under any circumstance want to stop the spread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭c montgomery


    My mum was in contact with someone who has tested positive, had lunch with them last week.

    Doctor told her as she has no symptoms they won't test her as test will Give a negative result unless she is symptomatic 🀔

    Didn't know this, must be a limit of detection on the test.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,048 ✭✭✭Bunny Colvin


    Irish_rat wrote: »
    It's as if people are wishing for higher figures. That's just sick.

    They are herd immunity advocates. As an asthmatic, I don't ever want to pick this up, nor do I want to see the likes of my parents get it. But we're all just statistics to some.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭millb


    millb wrote: »
    Too late for that - was not done for Italian / Austrian ski resort return flights. Spreaders / Italian rugby visitors or Cheltenham folks.

    Maybe they could be trained to spray / check / test returning Spanish exiles later this week..

    Folks need to start wearing masks when shopping / visiting family etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    The_Brood wrote: »
    What the absolute hell is happening. How are the cases exploding like this. How is this even possible. This is spiraling into the biggest crisis the modern world has ever faced, thinking about the wipeout to the economy.

    define ' the modern world ' and we will go from there

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,852 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    41 in the east. Dublin is riddled, by the looks of it.

    41 out of about 1,500,000....

    Not exactly what I would call riddled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    15000 by the end of the month means 2400 serious cases (and 750 in critical care/ICU).

    Ireland has 250 or so ICU beds (IIRC).

    So should we expect ICUs to be overwhelmed in the next week or two.

    Just to give some context. We have about 270 ICU beds, but many more ventilators than that. Every theatre has ventilators and there are many theatres around the country. The private sector has a large number also as they do lots of cardiac and major surgery in some institutions and they will all be available to us.

    Staffing them won't be easy but we are a little better off than 250.

    Also ordering more has commenced also.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Still only 6 in ICU, which is good news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Just watched the presser, some people must have watched a completely different one, how is our strategy any different for the UK? People on here were laughing at Boris doing a u-turn earlier, complete horse****, we are the ones doing a u-turn, "15,000 infected by the end of the month, 50% of the entire population infected, we can't stop it" sounds to me like Leo is going for the herd immunity approach as well as Boris, just he's using slightly different wording.

    Well, because we have already taken more decisive measures to slow its spread. Varadkar is just acknowledging that it will still spread with severe restrictions in place. Saying “we can’t stop it” is better than pretending it can be stopped but slowing the spread is crucial for helping the health service cope and allowing time to test different medications on it (existing and hopefully novel). I don’t see this as a capitulation at all, just pragmatism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    6 people in ICU? Did I hear right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    6 patients in ICU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,093 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    antodeco wrote: »
    Jack Reacher is on Sky 1 at 9, for those who want a mental break from everything (it's important to look after your mental health in times like this)

    I'm one who likes small Tom Cruise as Reacher in his first outing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,747 ✭✭✭fisgon


    My mum was in contact with someone who has tested positive, had lunch with them last week.

    Doctor told her as she has no symptoms they won't test her as test will Give a negative result unless she is symptomatic ��

    Didn't know this, must be a limit of detection on the test.

    Doesn't sound right. Idris Elba was on Twitter, said he had tested positive but had no symptoms. He got tested because he was in contact with someone who later turned out to be infected.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,359 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    My mum was in contact with someone who has tested positive, had lunch with them last week.

    Doctor told her as she has no symptoms they won't test her as test will Give a negative result unless she is symptomatic ��

    Didn't know this, must be a limit of detection on the test.

    Said on Newstalk this morning that asymptomatic people will test negative but can still spread the virus.

    If anyone has been in contact, self isolate for the 14 days. If you develop symptoms contact your GP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,052 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    rob316 wrote: »
    I guess you have a free house and can live on fresh air?
    **** off with that sanctimonious crap.

    Wait you suddenly care about living?


    But the sacred economy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,335 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Dr Holohan saying they will be watching the numbers extremely close : he says the first signs that social distancing might be working would become evident in a few days time (not yet though)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,904 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    Where will we get the money to cover this?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭perrito caliente


    Why aren't China trying to get 'herd immunity' across their one billion whatever population I wonder?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,778 ✭✭✭threeball


    I was speaking to a sales agent I used to deal with in China, she told me things are going back to normal BUT... You have to take the social distancing thing seriously, some of them were doing it for 1-2 months only leaving their apartments once a week to buy food

    China aren't out of the woods yet. Once europeans and americans start visiting again they run the risk of another outbreak. They mean even have this happen internally as they won't have found everyone.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,939 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    leahyl wrote: »
    If Idris Elba wasn’t showing any symptoms how would he know to have got tested??
    My mum was in contact with someone who has tested positive, had lunch with them last week.

    Doctor told her as she has no symptoms they won't test her as test will Give a negative result unless she is symptomatic ��

    Didn't know this, must be a limit of detection on the test.

    Idris Elba a high profile case who was showing no symptoms but tested positive...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,118 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Going to do a full breakdown of the full details of cases, status, patient condition once a week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,502 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    fisgon wrote: »
    Don't see what the endgame is here.....

    How does it end, if we enforce serious lockdowns in every European country?

    The rate of increase goes down, we go back to normal, and it all kicks off again.

    Cannot see this stopping until we get a vaccine.


    Or let it work through the system, people will survive and people will die ......there is no end game, it will become part of the cycle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,612 ✭✭✭Padre_Pio


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    Just to give people a bit of reason for optimism...

    I work with some guys in China. I was speaking with one of them today and they are starting to get back to “normal”, things are much more upbeat there in the last week or so. He had been under full lockdown since late January. Very strict. Only allowed out for grocery shopping a couple of times a week. Now they are allowed leave their homes and many are starting to go back to their old routines.

    Since they're relaxing their social isolation policy, won't the number of cases start to climb again?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,359 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    They are herd immunity advocates. As an asthmatic, I don't ever want to pick this up, nor do I want to see the likes of my parents get it. But we're all just statistics to some.

    Yeah I'm worried for myself and my son, we're both asthmatic even though he's under 10 and I'm not in an at risk age group


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    Just to give some context. We have about 270 ICU beds, but many more ventilators than that. Every theatre has ventilators and there are many theatres around the country. The private sector has a large number also as they do lots of cardiac and major surgery in some institutions and they will all be available to us.

    Staffing them won't be easy but we are a little better off than 250.

    Also ordering more as commenced also.

    Every country in the world has ordered them. We don't have anyone making them in this country from what I can tell. How will we get them? Germany have ordered 10000, UK put the call out yesterday for companies to give them as many as they can possibly make for whatever price. How are we going to get the amount we need I wonder? Worrying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    If Leo & company project 15,000 cases by end of March, why not lockdown the country now? At least try to stymie growth instead of emulating the Italian model.

    They seem to be trying to gradually introduce restrictions rather than go from normal life to total lockdown and cause widespread panic.

    We'll probably have flights grounded next and other non-essential business closed like restaurants, cafes and cinemas.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    EDit wrote: »
    I knew there had to be some benefits of living in the midlands, seemingly no cases in the middle yet

    Someone tested positive in mullingar hospital

    East of the country

    Longford leader


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