CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

mick987 · 16-03-2020 09:44PM

kerrycork13 wrote: »

Sounds to me like Leo is saying he doesnt want to stop people from getting the virus but just to slow it down. That's why the social distancing continues.

Sounds like what the UK are trying to do

Timberrrrrrrr · 16-03-2020 09:45PM

Lundstram wrote: »

Lose your job in UK you get £94 (€103).

Ireland €203.

We often criticise our welfare state (like myself) but at times like this it's invaluable. There will be consequences down the line in terms of tax increases but I don't mind contributing to those who will and have had their livelyhoods taken from them for the good of the rest of us.

Yeah but the cost of living is way lower in the UK.

12 X 500 mg of paracetamol costs me 39p as opposed to how much in Ireland? That's obviously just one example and chose it because its relevance to the virus.

Lashes28 · 16-03-2020 09:45PM

Jin luk wrote: »

Dundalk and drogheda is "riddled" more than likely hearing about those because we live so close 20-30 minutes away from both towns. Really getting scary now,

Did you hear about it on WhatsApp??

Coralcoras · 16-03-2020 09:45PM

2 speed vans on the N5 between Frenchpark and Westport today

Cork Boy 53 · 16-03-2020 09:45PM

macnug wrote: »

Whats the point in even contract tracing at this stage if 15,000 will have it by the end of month? Id say the jobs will be for caring for patients.

Contact tracing is meaningless at this stage.

smelly sock · 16-03-2020 09:45PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Yeah but the cost of living is way lower in the UK.

12 X 500 mg of paracetamol costs me 39p as opposed to how much in Ireland? That's obviously just one example and chose it because its relevance to the virus.

Wages or also lower.

Volthar · 16-03-2020 09:45PM

Imreoir2 wrote: »

The measures that were implemented here take two weeks to show their effectivness in the stats. Everyone who tests positve before the end of the month will have been infected before the control measures were adopted.

Without the control measures we adopted, the pace of the increase would continue past the end of the month, As a result of the measures that were adopted, the number of new cases should begin to taper off by the end of the month. What we do now will impact the number of new cases we have in two weeks time. The cases that show up today were infected two weeks ago.

Being on top of it means not getting to hundreds of thousands of cases over the next six weeks.

Thanks for that. People must understand that there is a delay. Some will ask why govt has not acted earlier. Many won't like it but to me, and rightly so, it was controlled introduction of the virus to the community. No other way to get through it. Total lockdown, until we have a vaccine, is out of the question. This is why it is too early to say the UK is making a mistake delaying any significant action and Poland acting very early as in the long term they may simply go bankrupt. Sadly, this is an unprecedented event and as such, seeing countries applying various approach may payback in the future in dealing with pandemics.

Jin luk · 16-03-2020 09:45PM

tayto lover wrote: »

What are you on about? Ridiculous statement if you have no facts.

Comes from a hse worker believe what u will but its certainly facts, young lad in isolation in drogheda hospital so much for it only gets the old.

is_that_so · 16-03-2020 09:46PM

Coralcoras wrote: »

2 speed vans on the N5 between Frenchpark and Westport today

With the virus?

Graham · 16-03-2020 09:46PM

mick987 wrote: »

Sounds like what the UK are trying to do

That's what the UK are talking about doing.

Pretty big difference.

Padre_Pio · 16-03-2020 09:46PM

mick987 wrote: »

Sounds like what the UK are trying to do

Slowing it down is the only thing we can do.

The difference between us and the UK is the UK seems to only want to isolate the elderly, and let everyone else fend for themselves, although given the worldwide backlash, they're coming around now.

We're trying to isolate everyone, in order to "flatten the curve".

PCeeeee · 16-03-2020 09:46PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Sadly that was a similar vibe I got too ST.

The difference (IMO) was the UK strategy wasn't obviously trying to achieve the flattening of the curve. It is now.

It looks like there was never any alternative. Frighteningly.

Tony EH · 16-03-2020 09:47PM

Lundstram wrote: »

Lose your job in UK you get £94 (€103).

Ireland €203.

We often criticise our welfare state (like myself) but at times like this it's invaluable. There will be consequences down the line in terms of tax increases but I don't mind contributing to those who will and have had their livelyhoods taken from them for the good of the rest of us.

Imagine what it's going to be like in America, where you'll probably end up with nothing and if you have to go to a hospital, a medical bill in the thousands.

RugbyLad11 · 16-03-2020 09:47PM

Lundstram wrote: »

Lose your job in UK you get £94 (€103).

Ireland €203.

We often criticise our welfare state (like myself) but at times like this it's invaluable. There will be consequences down the line in terms of tax increases but I don't mind contributing to those who will and have had their livelyhoods taken from them for the good of the rest of us.

In fairness the cost of living is a lot cheaper in the UK (apart from London)

RandomName2 · 16-03-2020 09:47PM

Amazing visualization of virus spread

https://efhiii.github.io/COVID-19/

Wibbs · 16-03-2020 09:47PM

Phibsboro wrote: »

Just to clarify on SARS (as in the 2003 outbreak). SARS was contained, i.e. it fizzled out. It now only exists as a lab specimen. Also, the average immunity gained for it was for only 2 years - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2851497/

2 years, either through surviving the illness, or vaccination programme is long enough to have a damned good try at making Covid19 "a lab specimen" too.

Mental Mickey · 16-03-2020 09:47PM

is_that_so wrote: »

About 9 p.m.

RTE News Now,

You're welcome!

Ta

pH · 16-03-2020 09:47PM

darjeeling wrote: »

Yes, I agree it looks worse in many places due to under-recording of cases, but still there is likely to be higher mortality where the number of patients becomes so high that many in need won't get access to hospital beds, particularly ICU beds.

Agreed, which is incredibly worrying for us if we're talking about 15,000 cases in the next 15 days. At a 1% CFR that's 150 unavoidable deaths, but the real problem is the 4% (600) additional patients from the 15,000 that will need access to Ireland's 250 ICU beds in the next 2 weeks.

It's clear that 600 into 250 does not go, and that's supposing those 250 beds are all sitting empty waiting for covid-19 patients (which they're not), there will still be accidents, strokes, heart-attacks etc. that require those beds in the coming weeks, and managing a highly contagious virus in an ICU is a challenging task in its own right.

MrMusician18 · 16-03-2020 09:47PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Sadly that was a similar vibe I got too ST.

We are all going for herd immunity. It's the speed at which each country gets to that destination in the question.

Strumms · 16-03-2020 09:47PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

I passed a speed van yesterday morning, twas in its usual favourite spot with a nice view of Dublin Bay... they haven't gone away you know

It’s probably a good thing. The first thing thought is ‘not a critical service’ but I think it’s crucial that law and order is upheld on the roads and in communities, last thing we need is hospitals becoming full to the brim with road traffic accident victims on top of regular medical patients because there is a degree of belief that those enforcing the laws might be detailed to other areas of the job and not policing roads. Standards of driving have nosedived too, definitely needed.

Timberrrrrrrr · 16-03-2020 09:47PM

Next months grand national has been cancelled.

billybonkers · 16-03-2020 09:48PM

https://www.rte.ie/news/education/2020/0316/1123621-trinity-college/

Trinity shutting down accommodation

Drumpot · 16-03-2020 09:48PM

Beasty wrote: »

A point that has been made numerous times across the 8 threads to date

:pac::pac:

Things people have said Most on these threads?............

22% - “sure it’s just a flu , that kills people every year and nobody cares about that...”
16% - “Aren’t most people going to be fine so what’s the big deal?“
15% - “I will be ok, why do I have to change something that will inconvenience me?”
14% - “ I am not saying we should not protect the old and vulnerable but aren’t they going to die anyway?”
8% - “ But only 2 people have died”
7% - “But only 1 person has died”
6% - “But there’s only a few infected”
5% - “But there’s nobody infected in Ireland”
4% - “But we aren’t Italy”
3% - “ But that’s in Asia , what’s wrong with you...?”
0.000001% - “ Sure people die every year In road crashes and you don’t see people scaremongering about that”

Top words used = “scaremongering”, “hysterical” followed closely by “panic”

tayto lover · 16-03-2020 09:48PM

Jin luk wrote: »

Comes from a hse worker believe what u will but its certainly facts, young lad in isolation in drogheda hospital so much for it only gets the old.

Ahhh yes!!! The phantom HSE worker strikes again.

Reckless Abandonment · 16-03-2020 09:48PM

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Contact tracing is meaningless at this stage.

It's a waste of time if they don't release to the public where each case was found. East of the country, south. ****e

Irish_rat · 16-03-2020 09:48PM

Jin luk wrote: »

Comes from a hse worker believe what u will but its certainly facts, young lad in isolation in drogheda hospital so much for it only gets the old.

More fake news.

Adiboo · 16-03-2020 09:48PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Yeah but the cost of living is way lower in the UK.

12 X 500 mg of paracetamol costs me 39p as opposed to how much in Ireland? That's obviously just one example and chose it because its relevance to the virus.

€1.75 was the cheapest I could find today.

dan786 · 16-03-2020 09:48PM

No Grand National.

The Jockey Club in the UK has announced that The Randox Health Grand National Festival will not take place between Thursday 2nd and Saturday 4th April this year.

Ger Roe · 16-03-2020 09:49PM

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Slowing it down is the only thing we can do.

The difference between us and the UK is the UK seems to only want to isolate the elderly, and let everyone else fend for themselves, although given the worldwide backlash, they're coming around now.

We're trying to isolate everyone, in order to "flatten the curve".

We're not trying to isolate everyone. There are still people who are not in essential jobs, but are being told to go to work and so risk bringing it home. Some are working in our flagship multinationals with hundreds to thousands of people on site at any one time.

So much for the 100 person limit. Seems that only applies to pubs.

Phibsboro · 16-03-2020 09:49PM

SuperTortoise wrote: »

Just watched the presser, some people must have watched a completely different one, how is our strategy any different for the UK? People on here were laughing at Boris doing a u-turn earlier, complete horse****, we are the ones doing a u-turn, "15,000 infected by the end of the month, 50% of the entire population infected, we can't stop it" sounds to me like Leo is going for the herd immunity approach as well as Boris, just he's using slightly different wording.

I honestly didn't hear Leo say that 50% of the population will get it? As for the 15,000 cases, that is just an existing situation - 15k will diagnosed by the end of the month because 15k have it now. It is at that point (in two weeks time) that we are hoping the current measures will kick in. My reading of the presser is that at the 15k point we are hoping the upward curve will move a little flatter...

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP