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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I drive a van and I average about 600km a day. One thing I've noticed in the past week is no speed vans. Haven't seen one..

    do you think that the clampers have gone to ground also?

    probably not those apcoa bast-ards though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,669 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    Has the CMO's statement been on yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,734 ✭✭✭20silkcut


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    If this has started in any other place other than China would things be the way they are now ?

    Any country with a significant Airline industry can export viruses. We are unlucky that China is in that bracket with its weird sanitary and eating habits.
    We are lucky that most African countries are not at that level and when Ebola breaks out Airlines can quickly cancel all flights to those countries without thinking twice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    LRNM wrote: »
    I'm really worried about what the economic impact of this.
    Looks like we're in for another decade of pay cuts, higher taxes, and higher cost of living.

    IMHO the economic impacts of this will make the 2008 financial crisis look like a minor blip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    I hope its not but why do you think so?

    Explained lots of times in previous pages. Tony Holohan has to do two conferences tonight from two separate buildings. The first conf ended less than an hour ago - prep and setup time required.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    Has the CMO's statement been on yet?

    9pm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    threeball wrote: »
    If you think that we can just wait this out in the house for it to go away you're a fool. One person, worldwide carrying this and the cycle starts again unless we develop an immunity. If there is no immunity then we as a race are fcuked. They are not going to tell the average Joe that though because people panic.
    What's the end game in your opinion? Tuck yourself up in bed for 18 months. Who makes the food, who pays the bills, who runs the electricity, gas, water services. It's time to get real.
    Who is tucked up in bed? I've been making provisions for those closest to me. People have lived in communities together supporting each other, grown their own food, managed their own close-knit affairs for thousands of years. Electricity can be easily produced using renewable sources in this country. If you expect everyone to just embrace death and go out to catch this in the interest of protecting the status quo, then you're the one who needs to "get real", Yank.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 655 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    Ironicname wrote: »
    Jaysis that's fierce slow. Works out at 25 miles per hour
    I average 2 miles an hour from north county Dublin to the city each day. :confused:

    Well not exactly, but it feels that way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,522 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I passed a speed van yesterday morning, twas in its usual favourite spot with a nice view of Dublin Bay... they haven't gone away you know :)

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    pH wrote: »
    The data is pretty unequivocal. It really looks like it's the 'number of cases' in Italy that's underreported making the CFR (case fatality rate) seem higher than it actually is.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1099517/japan-coronavirus-patients-diamond-princess/

    And yes all passengers received the treatment they needed, either in Japan or after repatriation in their home countries.

    Oh I'm not doubting the figure at all. I think it's probably about right for the natural mortality rate of this virus.

    That said I also think it's a bit useless. At the start of an outbreak the mortality rate will be about 1%. Then when things eventually become overwhelming the mortality rate will rise as people can't get the care they need.
    And of course it will eventually start moving towards 1% again as it passes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    Dundalk and drogheda is "riddled" more than likely hearing about those because we live so close 20-30 minutes away from both towns. Really getting scary now,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,669 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    9pm

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    darjeeling wrote: »
    Yes, I agree it looks worse in many places due to under-recording of cases, but still there is likely to be higher mortality where the number of patients becomes so high that many in need won't get access to hospital beds, particularly ICU beds.

    Any idea what the multiplier is estimated at for confirmed vs actual cases? Right now we know maybe ~20-25% of confirmed cases require hospitalisation, so let’s assume hse is saturated and there’s no access to healthcare at all. What sort of death toll are we looking at if Leo is right and half the country get it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,780 ✭✭✭threeball


    UK saying they calculate 250,000 deaths even if all isolation criteria followed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,427 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    Just watched the presser, some people must have watched a completely different one, how is our strategy any different for the UK? People on here were laughing at Boris doing a u-turn earlier, complete horse****, we are the ones doing a u-turn, "15,000 infected by the end of the month, 50% of the entire population infected, we can't stop it" sounds to me like Leo is going for the herd immunity approach as well as Boris, just he's using slightly different wording.

    No specifics from any of them, "We've sourced more beds and ventialtors" Really? How many? and do you think they will be delivered before next Christmas? "We signed contracts to provide PPE" Really? What kind of PPE? How many of each? When will they actually be delivered?
    And travel ADVISORY,really, an advisory, CLOSE THE ****ING PORTS YOU IDIOTS, if you closed the ports 5 weeks ago we would still have 0 cases, the economy would be ****ed either way but now that any action is too late we get to endure the worst of both worlds.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Lundstram


    Lose your job in UK you get £94 (€103).

    Ireland €203.

    We often criticise our welfare state (like myself) but at times like this it's invaluable. There will be consequences down the line in terms of tax increases but I don't mind contributing to those who will and have had their livelyhoods taken from them for the good of the rest of us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭macnug


    Whats the point in even contract tracing at this stage if 15,000 will have it by the end of month? Id say the jobs will be for caring for patients.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,188 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Lundstram wrote: »
    Alot of stuff was said on here 3 weeks ago.

    As the saying goes, you throw enough sh1t..

    No, you are totally wrong, people on here were consistently saying the flights should be stopped or people at least checked/quarantined


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭Shelga


    What are people like me, in their 30s but living at home with old-ish parents, meant to do?

    Obviously observe social distancing as much as possible, but how long is this going to go on for? We could all lock ourselves up for 4 months, and then the exact same thing starts ramping up again as soon as we go back to normal. Are we all just going to isolate until there is a vaccine?

    I would almost go get myself deliberately infected and stay alone in a friend's house to get rid of it, if there was any proof that this provides sufficient antibodies to ensure I was no longer a danger to my parents.

    Has the government or any health bodies given an indication what the medium-to-long term plan/hope is? Genuine question, not having a go. I think they're doing as good a job as possible, in the awful circumstances.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786


    Trinity College is closing its on campus accommodation after at least eight student residents tested positive for Covid-19.

    The university has told all students living on campus that they must leave, unless they are self-isolating or will experience homelessness or another great difficulty as a result.

    In what it said was "one of the most difficult decisions to date" the college said that based on medical advice regarding the health and safety of students all residents on campus, in Trinity Hall, the Binary Hub, and Kavanagh Court must now leave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,416 ✭✭✭sjb25


    LRNM wrote: »
    I'm really worried about what the economic impact of this.
    Looks like we're in for another decade of pay cuts, higher taxes, and higher cost of living.

    While that is a valid concern Fcuk all we can do now we need to contain the virus unfortunately that’s more important at this stage and we as a country will have to try work together now and after


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,316 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Just watched the presser, some people must have watched a completely different one, how is our strategy any different for the UK? People on here were laughing at Boris doing a u-turn earlier, complete horse****, we are the ones doing a u-turn, "15,000 infected by the end of the month, 50% of the entire population infected, we can't stop it" sounds to me like Leo is going for the herd immunity approach as well as Boris, just he's using slightly different wording.
    Sadly that was a similar vibe I got too ST.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭Nibs05


    Airports and sea ports will never close, we still need to export and import, even Rome airport was operational today with a skeleton service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,522 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Shelga wrote: »
    What are people like me, in their 30s but living at home with old-ish parents, meant to do?
    Obviously observe social distancing as much as possible, but how long is this going to go on for? We could all lock ourselves up for 4 months, and then the exact same thing starts ramping up again as soon as we go back to normal. Are we all just going to isolate until there is a vaccine?
    I would almost go get myself deliberately infected and stay alone in a friend's house to get rid of it, if there was any proof that this provides sufficient antibodies to ensure I was no longer a danger to my parents.
    Has the government or any health bodies given an indication what the medium-to-long term plan/hope is? Genuine question, not having a go. I think they're doing as good a job as possible, in the awful circumstances.

    I just want to say... heroic post in all sincerity.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,376 ✭✭✭Phibsboro


    Wibbs wrote: »
    No offence TC, but maybe "just stop" and think yourself because you're posting some "clueless" material yourself.

    1) That link to the CT lung damage is of patients during the progress of the disease. It's not a month after. Some may have reduced lung function, but we don't know how many or how severe. We simply don't know yet.

    2) From what we know of other coronoviruses in humans(and there are a lot of them) people do acquire immunity after infection. That includes MERS and SARS. To that strain at least and if the virus doesn't mutate much, some immunity to new strains. Again it's early days and talk of limited or no immunity is down to people apparently becoming reinfected, but more and more it looks more like they have a relapse from the original infection because they haven' fully cleared the virus from their bodies. Again we simply don't know yet.

    Just to clarify on SARS (as in the 2003 outbreak). SARS was contained, i.e. it fizzled out. It now only exists as a lab specimen. Also, the average immunity gained for it was for only 2 years - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2851497/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,780 ✭✭✭threeball


    Just watched the presser, some people must have watched a completely different one, how is our strategy any different for the UK? People on here were laughing at Boris doing a u-turn earlier, complete horse****, we are the ones doing a u-turn, "15,000 infected by the end of the month, 50% of the entire population infected, we can't stop it" sounds to me like Leo is going for the herd immunity approach as well as Boris, just he's using slightly different wording.

    No specifics from any of them, "We've sourced more beds and ventialtors" Really? How many? and do you think they will be delivered before next Christmas? "We signed contracts to provide PPE" Really? What kind of PPE? How many of each? When will they actually be delivered?
    And travel ADVISORY,really, an advisory, CLOSE THE ****ING PORTS YOU IDIOTS, if you closed the ports 5 weeks ago we would still have 0 cases, the economy would be ****ed either way but now that any action is too late we get to endure the worst of both worlds.

    Because the UK put no restrictions whatsoever so now it's rampant and they don't even know how rampant. We put measures in place to stop exponential growth like closing schools and sports events. They were already one week ahead of us too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,166 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Jin luk wrote: »
    Dundalk and drogheda is "riddled" more than likely hearing about those because we live so close 20-30 minutes away from both towns. Really getting scary now,

    What are you on about? Ridiculous statement if you have no facts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    Just watched the presser, some people must have watched a completely different one, how is our strategy any different for the UK? People on here were laughing at Boris doing a u-turn earlier, complete horse****, we are the ones doing a u-turn, "15,000 infected by the end of the month, 50% of the entire population infected, we can't stop it" sounds to me like Leo is going for the herd immunity approach as well as Boris, just he's using slightly different wording.

    No specifics from any of them, "We've sourced more beds and ventialtors" Really? How many? and do you think they will be delivered before next Christmas? "We signed contracts to provide PPE" Really? What kind of PPE? How many of each? When will they actually be delivered?
    And travel ADVISORY,really, an advisory, CLOSE THE ****ING PORTS YOU IDIOTS, if you closed the ports 5 weeks ago we would still have 0 cases, the economy would be ****ed either way but now that any action is too late we get to endure the worst of both worlds.

    You just don't get it do you?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Has the CMO's statement been on yet?

    About 9 p.m.

    RTE News Now,

    You're welcome!


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