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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #3242
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,722 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    Funnily enough, here on boards with no expert advice but eyes to see what was happening elsewhere, crystal balls were fully functional...


    True enough, just look back at the first posts!


  • #3243
    Graham
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    Trinity is making all student leave their accommodation by tomorrow or Wednesday for international students.

    It seems like a really scummy move to make everyone move at such short notice, and potentially spreading the disease further across Dublin and the wordl

    From the University Times
    Students can stay on campus if they face homelessness, have the virus or are self-isolating, have a family member with the virus, have immigration or visa restrictions, have extremely limited internet connectivity in their home, or are conducting research on campus for a PhD.


  • #3244
    pH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    gabeeg wrote: »
    That would seem to me to be a kind of false mortality rate, given the eventual circumstances in hospitals.

    Did everyone on that ship have access to doctors/ventilators etc?

    The data is pretty unequivocal. It really looks like it's the 'number of cases' in Italy that's underreported making the CFR (case fatality rate) seem higher than it actually is.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1099517/japan-coronavirus-patients-diamond-princess/

    And yes all passengers received the treatment they needed, either in Japan or after repatriation in their home countries.


  • #3245
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Adiboo wrote: »
    Will the UK's response to this possibly push NI population more towards a united Ireland?
    Not for this thread - we have one discussing a United Ireland in the main Current Affairs forum


  • #3246
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,447 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Tootsie_1 wrote: »
    Just Re working from home and Volunteering it won’t happen I’m in the HSE we aren’t allowed work from home even though we technically could we have to go in probably GDPR And sensitive information and all that goes with that. Im being redeployed to help out in other areas.

    That's just an excuse. Plenty of people who work with sensitive personal data work from home. HSE just don't want it to happen.


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  • #3247
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,019 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    20silkcut wrote: »
    Just watched a YouTube video on the 2014 Ebola epidemic in west Africa. Frightening stuff the WHO and MSF were over it like a rash and managed to contain it to three countries. 28000 cases 11000 deaths.
    Only Africa is so isolated from the rest of the world we dodged that bullet.

    If this has started in any other place other than China would things be the way they are now ?


  • #3248
    Tootsie_1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Tootsie_1


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Does it depend on what you do? Family member expecting to WFH for two weeks from tomorrow.

    Possibly we would deal with a lot of sensitive information so no way they would let us WFH with access to all that.


  • #3249
    tobsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭tobsey


    Ray Donovan wrote: »
    I really think in the current climate GDPR should get fcuked out the window.

    GDPR isn’t really the issue, basic data protection laws that predate it is. Due to those laws there was no real plan for remote working for many people in the health sector and it’s not something that can be implemented quickly, especially in a crisis situation.


  • #3250
    Adiboo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,629 ✭✭✭Adiboo


    Beasty wrote: »
    Not for this thread - we have one discussing a United Ireland in the main Current Affairs forum

    Apologies


  • #3251
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,780 ✭✭✭threeball


    Lyanna Some Gut wrote: »
    Oh my god you're so wrong that I can't even begin with this. Please just don't say this kind of stuff because clearly you're clueless and we already have enough ridiculous, spurious and useless claims, rumours and nonsense posts stacking up here already without these dangerous, bizarre assertions

    We don't know if we can stop it returning over and over because it's unprecedented.

    It is highly likely that allowing many people to become infected will result in a massively reduced quality of life for those that survive due to permanent lung damage. https://www.medicaldevice-network.com/news/coronavirus-ct-scans/

    There isn't any known permanent immunity to this and even people who have built up the antibodies to recover once may not be able to recover from it again (they said as much in the UK press conference today).

    Just stop.

    If you think that we can just wait this out in the house for it to go away you're a fool. One person, worldwide carrying this and the cycle starts again unless we develop an immunity. If there is no immunity then we as a race are fcuked. They are not going to tell the average Joe that though because people panic.
    What's the end game in your opinion? Tuck yourself up in bed for 18 months. Who makes the food, who pays the bills, who runs the electricity, gas, water services. It's time to get real.


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  • #3252
    RugbyLad11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    If this has started in any other place other than China would things be the way they are now ?

    They probably would be worse


  • #3253
    ldy4mxonucwsq6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    Hunchback wrote: »
    Mortality rate for Ebola is higher, but its less contagious (I heard)

    Yes it usually kills its host so rapidly which reduces its spread.

    Kills nearly half of the people that it infects and sounds like an awful death too.

    There are definitely worse things than coronavirus.


  • #3254
    Grandeeod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    I think the 9pm presser is for maximum exposure on RTE news and similar channels like SKY and BBC.


  • #3255
    Speak Now
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,767 ✭✭✭Speak Now


    Jaylee Faint Rival wrote: »
    I drive a van and I average about 600km a day. One thing I've noticed in the past week is no speed vans. Haven't seen one..

    Saw one this evening in Waterford


  • #3256
    deisedevil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,252 ✭✭✭deisedevil


    threeball wrote: »
    If you think that we can just wait this out in the house for it to go away you're a fool. One person, worldwide carrying this and the cycle starts again unless we develop an immunity. If there is no immunity then we as a race are fcuked. They are not going to tell the average Joe that though because people panic.
    What's the end game in your opinion? Tuck yourself up in bed for 18 months. Who makes the food, who pays the bills, who runs the electricity, gas, water services. It's time to get real.

    Be better to wait it out until the numbers getting it drop though at least wouldn't it? Might be an ould ventilator going spare then.


  • #3257
    dhaughton99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,701 ✭✭✭dhaughton99


    RugbyLad11 wrote: »
    They will be announced tomorrow

    I heard Regina Dothery saying on radio 1 today that she will make use of people on TUS and CE schemes over the next few weeks. I wonder what they have in mind?


  • #3258
    LRNM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 164 ✭✭LRNM


    I'm really worried about what the economic impact of this.
    Looks like we're in for another decade of pay cuts, higher taxes, and higher cost of living.


  • #3259
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    I think the 9pm presser is for maximum exposure on RTE news and similar channels like SKY and BBC.

    No, it's not.


  • #3260
    Imreoir2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Imreoir2


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    But this would be the worst case worldwide. I thought we were on top of it, not making the mistakes of others, but learning from them as to avoid such numbers.
    He's basically saying '' I'm a useless cnut''

    The measures that were implemented here take two weeks to show their effectivness in the stats. Everyone who tests positve before the end of the month will have been infected before the control measures were adopted.

    Without the control measures we adopted, the pace of the increase would continue past the end of the month, As a result of the measures that were adopted, the number of new cases should begin to taper off by the end of the month. What we do now will impact the number of new cases we have in two weeks time. The cases that show up today were infected two weeks ago.

    Being on top of it means not getting to hundreds of thousands of cases over the next six weeks.


  • #3261
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,315 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Lyanna Some Gut wrote: »
    Oh my god you're so wrong that I can't even begin with this. Please just don't say this kind of stuff because clearly you're clueless and we already have enough ridiculous, spurious and useless claims, rumours and nonsense posts stacking up here already without these dangerous, bizarre assertions

    We don't know if we can stop it returning over and over because it's unprecedented.

    It is highly likely that allowing many people to become infected will result in a massively reduced quality of life for those that survive due to permanent lung damage. https://www.medicaldevice-network.com/news/coronavirus-ct-scans/

    There isn't any known permanent immunity to this and even people who have built up the antibodies to recover once may not be able to recover from it again (they said as much in the UK press conference today).

    Just stop.
    No offence TC, but maybe "just stop" and think yourself because you're posting some "clueless" material yourself.

    1) That link to the CT lung damage is of patients during the progress of the disease. It's not a month after. Some may have reduced lung function, but we don't know how many or how severe. We simply don't know yet.

    2) From what we know of other coronoviruses in humans(and there are a lot of them) people do acquire immunity after infection. That includes MERS and SARS. To that strain at least and if the virus doesn't mutate much, some immunity to new strains. Again it's early days and talk of limited or no immunity is down to people apparently becoming reinfected, but more and more it looks more like they have a relapse from the original infection because they haven' fully cleared the virus from their bodies. Again we simply don't know yet.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • #3262
    Cody montana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,584 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    I’m in bed shivering. 😳


  • #3263
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    If it's not already been posted today. Irish daily star reported that the 4 people including the GP who had been in Limerick with covid were released after recovering.

    Any other updates on recovered cases ?


  • #3264
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,026 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    Maybe the US president should address the nation and calm the markets.

    If you were the market, would you be calm having trump as president in a crisis like this?


  • #3265
    darjeeling
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    pH wrote: »
    The data is pretty unequivocal. It really looks like it's the 'number of cases' in Italy that's underreported making the CFR (case fatality rate) seem higher than it actually is.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1099517/japan-coronavirus-patients-diamond-princess/

    And yes all passengers received the treatment they needed, either in Japan or after repatriation in their home countries.

    Yes, I agree it looks worse in many places due to under-recording of cases, but still there is likely to be higher mortality where the number of patients becomes so high that many in need won't get access to hospital beds, particularly ICU beds.


  • #3266
    Mervyn Skidmore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,210 ✭✭✭Mervyn Skidmore


    LRNM wrote: »
    I'm really worried about what the economic impact of this.
    Looks like we're in for another decade of pay cuts, higher taxes, and higher cost of living.

    I'm more worried about the next couple of months. Taxes and pay cuts won't worry the dead.


  • #3267
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,519 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Griffin Tasteless Floor wrote: »
    Yes it usually kills its host so rapidly which reduces its spread.
    Kills nearly half of the people that it infects and sounds like an awful death too.
    There are definitely worse things than coronavirus.

    Worse things to *get*
    Coronavirus is far worse at spreading... Ebola doesn't cause Eu US China to go into lockdown.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #3268
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,210 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    LRNM wrote: »
    I'm really worried about what the economic impact of this.
    Looks like we're in for another decade of pay cuts, higher taxes, and higher cost of living.

    Same as it was before so.


  • #3269
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,780 ✭✭✭threeball


    deisedevil wrote: »
    Be better to wait it out until the numbers getting it drop though at least wouldn't it? Might be an ould ventilator going spare then.

    That's the point of my post he responded to. It's a slow release through the population.


  • #3270
    Ironicname
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,177 ✭✭✭Ironicname


    Jaylee Faint Rival wrote:
    I drive a van and I average about 600km a day.

    Jaysis that's fierce slow. Works out at 25 miles per hour


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  • #3271
    Grandeeod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Grandeeod


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    No, it's not.

    I hope its not but why do you think so?


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