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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #2642
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    0127647 wrote: »
    so welfare applications need to be printed and posted in

    nice to see dept of welfare is stuck in 1970 ffs

    how long will it take to process 140000 hand written forms

    if unions were obliging previously this should be doable online

    Most applications are doable online: https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/claiming_a_social_welfare_payment/applying_for_social_welfare_payments_and_services_online.html


  • #2643
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    I feel so sorry for all the clowns who were looking forward to having a histrionic breakdown once today's numbers were announced by the HSE.

    They have to wait an entire 2 hours now before they can exaggerate how dreadful the increase is and blame the government on everything...oh yeah and blame the Brits, Pub Owners, Teenagers, Donald Trump, Italy, Spain and China and racing fans ..., how awful. Honorable mention to Dub bashers, it is only a matter of time really ( I actually started Cork bashing last night, I didn't want to leave them out tbh)

    Hang tough imbeciles. Your time will come ( in about 1 hour 40 mins ).


  • #2644
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    I agree that FG are doing well here at.

    But what's this bs about SF? Wtf would you expect them to do or say? Are they any less visible than FF, Greens, SocDems, Labour, Militant Tendency/Trotskyite International, &c? I mean the middle of an international and national crisis but sure don't let the opportunity to have a go at SF pass. FFS.

    Not a fan of Sinn Fein but totally agree Cilldara. Time for doing what needs to be done, not political sniping.


  • #2645
    jmayo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Humberto Salazar wrote: »
    It's certainly worth looking at what the Germans are doing right, their toll is kept very low so far, lives being saved. What are the differences in treatment?

    A good health service with sh** loads of ventilators/respirators.
    They might be keeping hundreds on life support?

    Why do you think a British minister was on TV yesterday begging British industry to start manufacturing them ?

    Although it shows how fooked up the British government is that they are supposedly asking car manufacturers and JCB to make them. :confused:

    If these numbnuts were in charge during the war they would have had Hovis making tanks and Austin making parachutes.

    BTW we are in serious trouble with our measily numbers.

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • #2646
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    Regarding the British response, isn't it blatantly obvious that they are now starting their backtrack? Why keep rowing about it?

    Because the results their demented efforts to spread the virus will not be seen for about 10 to 14 days.

    I don't give a flying f*ck what they do on their own island.

    But they are wrecking all our efforts to contain the virus by their lack of action in Northern Ireland.

    It's not the first time the Brits have screwed us over you know !


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  • #2647
    r93kaey5p2izun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    I really think the communication and information handling strategy is not working. People want as much information as possible, and if it's not available from the official sources then they will seek it out elsewhere- some correct, a lot incorrect. That's how people behave, expecting otherwise is just denying reality, so officials have to take a lot of the blame for this sharing of misinformation.

    Also this holding back of information until evening time, and then delaying even further so it's unpredictable, is increasing anxiety unnecessarily. None of this seems to be in line with WHO recommendations on how to keep people on side with open, honest and regular communication.


  • #2648
    Dial Hard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,677 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I feel so sorry for all the clowns who were looking forward to having a histrionic breakdown once today's numbers were announced by the HSE.

    They have to wait an entire 2 hours now before they can exaggerate how dreadful the increase is and blame the government on everything...oh yeah and blame the Brits, Pub Owners, Teenagers, Donald Trump, Italy, Spain and China and racing fans ..., how awful. Honorable mention to Dub bashers, it is only a matter of time really ( I actually started Cork bashing last night, I didn't want to leave them out tbh)

    Hang tough imbeciles. Your time will come ( in about 1 hour 40 mins ).

    Apt username is apt.


  • #2649
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I feel so sorry for all the clowns who were looking forward to having a histrionic breakdown once today's numbers were announced by the HSE.

    They have to wait an entire 2 hours now before they can exaggerate how dreadful the increase is and blame the government on everything...oh yeah and blame the Brits, Pub Owners, Teenagers, Donald Trump, Italy, Spain and China and racing fans ..., how awful. Honorable mention to Dub bashers, it is only a matter of time really ( I actually started Cork bashing last night, I didn't want to leave them out tbh)

    Hang tough imbeciles. Your time will come ( in about 1 hour 40 mins ).

    Don't forget Brexit


  • #2650
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,409 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Humberto Salazar wrote: »
    It's certainly worth looking at what the Germans are doing right, their toll is kept very low so far, lives being saved. What are the differences in treatment?
    I tonne more ICU beds per head than Ireland have


  • #2651
    0127647
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭0127647


    dummy_crusher wrote: »
    Don't you have a public services card and a mygov.ie account?

    ingrid milley stated convid forms to be printed and posted. no mention of online applications


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  • #2652
    briany
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,031 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Deleted User wrote: »
    A united Ireland is exactly what we need at the moment.

    Certainly an Ireland united in thought, anyway. If not, and Northern Ireland wants to follow the rest of the UK in a lax approach to this, then the only way we can stop feeling the spillover from that is to at least attempt to control the flow of traffic across the border. It wouldn't be easy and mightn't even be workable, but these are extraordinary times.


  • #2653
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    little bess wrote: »
    I thought they have an online application option now, no?
    Sure lots of people wouldn't even have printers, I know we don’t, it recently broke and we haven’t replaced it.
    Lots of TDs offices are printing them out for constituents if that's any help?


  • #2654
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    olestoepoke wrote: »
    Anyone else got a sneaking suspicion that there is a lot they aren't telling us about this virus? How are young health professionals dying from it? Over exposure? I don't get it, I thought if you get it you are then immune to it. Please forgive my ignorance if this has already been discussed.

    We can see that health professionals are a group of people who get this early (from infected sick people turning up in hospitals for help).

    Staff levels drop due to illness.

    Personal protective equipment is needed and there may not be enough supplies.


    I reckon for health professionals it could be a mixed bag:
    - maybe they are infected and it's early days in an infection for them
    - being overworked would be another cause - exhaustion, dehydration, hunger


  • #2655
    0127647
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭0127647


    little bess wrote: »
    I thought they have an online application option now, no?
    Sure lots of people wouldn't even have printers, I know we don’t, it recently broke and we haven’t replaced it.

    ingrid Miley stated people who don't have a printer will need to get someone to print it for them

    joke shop in this day and age applications are not done online


  • #2656
    olestoepoke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,383 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    walshb wrote: »
    SF are very quiet alright..

    Is it because they may have to work with FG and god forbid, maybe back them up?

    Not the time for throwing political snowballs.


  • #2657
    dummy_crusher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭dummy_crusher


    0127647 wrote: »
    ingrid milley stated convid forms to be printed and posted. no mention of online applications

    140,000 workers laid off due to coronavirus
    "If you have the card you can go to mygov.ie and fill out the form and you will be responded to within days. If you don't have one, go to welfare.ie and download the form and send it back by freepost to PO BOX 12896," Minister Doherty said.


  • #2658
    greenpilot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭greenpilot


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I feel so sorry for all the clowns who were looking forward to having a histrionic breakdown once today's numbers were announced by the HSE.

    They have to wait an entire 2 hours now before they can exaggerate how dreadful the increase is and blame the government on everything...oh yeah and blame the Brits, Pub Owners, Teenagers, Donald Trump, Italy, Spain and China and racing fans ..., how awful. Honorable mention to Dub bashers, it is only a matter of time really ( I actually started Cork bashing last night, I didn't want to leave them out tbh)

    Hang tough imbeciles. Your time will come ( in about 1 hour 40 mins ).

    Yes. Yes you are.


  • #2659
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,093 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Idris has it
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #2660
    Hobgoblin11
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭Hobgoblin11


    Croke park will be used as a covid 19 test centre , so long as the GAA governing counsel agree to allow foreign diseases into GAA grounds which are banned under rule 21

    Dundalk, Co. Louth



  • #2661
    SeaBreezes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Well I went to the shop there, nobody is out. 3 or 4 of us in the shop. I think the reaction to this has been astonishing. Place is eerie it's so quiet. There is too much knocking of irish people.

    Fsss isolate. It's not rocket science.


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  • #2662
    secman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,655 ✭✭✭secman


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I feel so sorry for all the clowns who were looking forward to having a histrionic breakdown once today's numbers were announced by the HSE.

    They have to wait an entire 2 hours now before they can exaggerate how dreadful the increase is and blame the government on everything...oh yeah and blame the Brits, Pub Owners, Teenagers, Donald Trump, Italy, Spain and China and racing fans ..., how awful. Honorable mention to Dub bashers, it is only a matter of time really ( I actually started Cork bashing last night, I didn't want to leave them out tbh)

    Hang tough imbeciles. Your time will come ( in about 1 hour 40 mins ).

    Had to do a double take on your name :)


  • #2663
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Well I went to the shop there, nobody is out. 3 or 4 of us in the shop. I think the reaction to this has been astonishing. Place is eerie it's so quiet. There is too much knocking of irish people.
    New Nangor Road if anyone knows it was unbelievably quiet today.
    That's one busy fecker of a long road.


  • #2664
    ZX7R
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    Depending on how high they are possible but unlikely.

    A full lockdown even if called would be impossible for the government to enforce
    We simply don't have the manpower.
    Unlike our European counterparts who have large army's and police forces.
    Only thing left is pubic transportation and stoping work except for front line staff


  • #2665
    Unearthly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,108 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    Ah jaysus even Stringer Bell has it :(


  • #2666
    jos28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,246 ✭✭✭jos28


    You can apply for Jobseekers online using your MyGov account, the forms are for people who haven't opened an account.
    If you are lucky your employer can pay you the €203 directly and eliminate the need for applying in any format. Your employer can claim it back when normality resumes.


  • #2667
    millb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭millb


    gmisk wrote: »
    I agree it's a really terrible strategy by the UK but I would say the NI number might stay fairly low due to lack of testing unless pretty already ill


    Randox are based in Antrim they are exporting Covid test kit and reagents to China . 4 hour testing afaik ... Surely this world leader should be active in NI and RoI. Media very shy on testing .. also v shy on Ventilators and Masks....

    Spain have brought in legislation on masks and UK have asked for factories to produce ventilators.

    We have a factory (Galway?) for ventillators but that would be an export business ... do they supply HSE?? .. have they been ordered to assist ... are they on 24x7 shifts.. can kit be sent to Croke-Park and the University Campus Treatment x Holding centers / preMortuary centres..


  • #2668
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Remember the chit chat about the use of ibuprofen (various brand names like Nurofen etc) the French warned against its use, the HSE posted today
    The HSE is today, (Monday 16th March 2020), advising anyone with Covid-19 to continue to take any medication you were already taking, unless you are told not to by a healthcare professional. This includes anti-inflammatories (NSAID) such as ibuprofen, naproxen or diclofenac.

    In response to false information about anti-inflammatory medication and Covid-19 circulating in media and on social media over the last 24 hours, Dr Colm Henry, Chief Clinical Officer of the HSE advises, “Only take one anti-inflammatory medication at a time. It is okay to take paracetamol and an anti-inflammatory like ibuprofen at the same time.

    “There is no evidence to stop any medication at this time. There is no need to order more medicines than you need, as this will affect the supply of medicines to others, and there is no disruption to the supply of medicines. If you have respiratory symptoms, do not attend your pharmacy in person. Phone your pharmacist if you need to order a prescription. Ask a family member to collect any medicines you need.

    This evening in the guardian we read
    Experts have criticised NHS advice that people self-isolating with Covid-19 should take ibuprofen, saying there is plausible evidence this could aggravate the condition.

    The comments came after French authorities warned against taking widely used over the counter anti-inflammatory drugs. The country’s health minister, Olivier Véran, a qualified doctor and neurologist, tweeted on Saturday: “The taking of anti-inflammatories [ibuprofen, cortisone … ] could be a factor in aggravating the infection. In case of fever, take paracetamol. If you are already taking anti-inflammatory drugs, ask your doctor’s advice.”

    NHS guidance states that people managing Covid-19 symptoms at home should take paracetamol or ibuprofen.

    “I would advise against that,” said Prof Ian Jones, a virologist at the University of Reading. “There’s good scientific evidence for ibuprofen aggravating the condition or prolonging it. That recommendation needs to be updated.”

    Is it any wonder people are uncertain as to how to proceed? Both cannot be right in the general sense.


  • #2669
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    0127647 wrote: »
    ingrid Miley stated people who don't have a printer will need to get someone to print it for them

    joke shop in this day and age applications are not done online

    Not really. It involves very important private personal information, EG PPS, bank accounts, mother's maiden name &c. Google, Facebook, Amazon and Microsoft combined would struggle to get a secure and bug free system up and running in less than one working day. Give them a chance ffs.


  • #2670
    0127647
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭0127647


    dummy_crusher wrote: »
    140,000 workers laid off due to coronavirus

    the convid payment has to be posted. no online option so far as I know

    would love to know how long it will take to process.


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  • #2671
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,124 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Cilldara_2000 wrote: »
    Not really. It involves very important private personal information, EG PPS, bank accounts, mother's maiden name &c. Google, Facebook, Amazon and Microsoft combined would struggle to get a secure and bug free system up and running in less than one working day. Give them a chance ffs.

    Public services card starting to look like it was a good idea.

    But the people weren't having any of it because of data.

    Like that matters anymore.


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