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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #1412
    BarryD2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Stay in and stay safe... you will be told when anything changes. Stay off social media and stick to official sources. Get to know when the daily press conferences are held and you will find out at the same time as everyone else. hse.ie is all you need to know.

    Ahem! Is boards.ie not a form of social media?? Bit of a double standard!

    Agree in principle but once you filter through the rubbish, social media is a useful source of information. Information that the HSE are not providing so far, in their efforts to manage the news.


  • #1413
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,397 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Tory Britain :(

    https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1239524199510806533?s=19


  • #1414
    jmayo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    Cupatae wrote: »
    So basically because we're a bunch of apes that can do what were told were gonna spread the ****e out of this virus... Unreal what a nation..

    Yes Irish people are shyte at doing what they are told.
    There is that rebellious streak there.
    Now that can be a good thing and a bad thing especially at times like this.

    Just look at Temple Bar over the last week.

    Then again it is not just the Irish that have difficulty following some instructions.
    In the US the governor of Illinois, mayor of Hoboken, New Jersey forcibly closed pubs and restuarants because asking people to socially distance themselves was simply not working.
    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Yes I'd say so.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/cheery-orchard-garda-incident-5047312-Mar2020/

    Do you really think people in these areas are going to follow any instructions issued?

    What a charming bunch.
    A pity this virus doesn't target scrotes and scumbags rather than elderly and already sick. :rolleyes:

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • #1415
    Talisman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,640 ✭✭✭Talisman


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    I would have prefered we d stopped humans travelling in/quarrantined 4/6 weeks ago. At least then the country could have some sort of normality. Keep the virus out instead of dealing with it.
    It wouldn't have worked - the border with Northern Ireland is impossible to close.


  • #1416
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Some barbers have closed already such as Grafton barbers

    https://graftonbarbers.com/

    They’ll be run on hair clippers soon I’d say.


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  • #1417
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Tory Britain :(

    https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1239524199510806533?s=19

    Wtf


  • #1418
    celt262
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,720 ✭✭✭celt262


    Corkgirl20 wrote: »
    Numbers on Wednesday may be very high due to backlog.
    Friend was tested on Saturday and told results will be given today. He rang and they said there’s a backlog so results will be given on Wednesday. Not sure if all weekend results will be given on Wednesday or not.

    Could that be a tactic to justify a shut down once all the flights are back from Spain etc on Thursday?


  • #1419
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,117 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Feed the heroes on newstalk


  • #1420
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    pH wrote: »
    Here's the problem with this:
    Ireland has around 250 ICU beds. But let's be generous and say that somehow we get that number up to 500 and they aren't needed for anything else apart from cov-19 cases. Let's also be extremely optimistic and say that each person needs the bed for only 10 day, this means that a theoretically highly stretched Irish health service could cope with 50 new severe covid-19 cases per day (in a highly unrealistic scenario where the beds are being used for just this)

    We also know that that for a population like we have somewhere around 5% of cases will need this type of intensive care. Which means that again, in theory we could have 1,000 people a day being infected and 'barely' cope. This would still lead to around 1% 'unavoidable' mortality rate, but we as a society would not be letting anyone die unnecessarily.

    So estimates for herd immunity vary, but 70% is not unreasonable ie. 3,400,000 people based on the current pop of Ireland. So you can see that those advocating 'flattening the curve' to keep corona virus below the capacity of the health service, if they were being honest would be talking about a period of 3,400 days (ie just short of 10 years) until this 'herd immunity' is reached. This would be 10 years of continual lock-down (slow virus transmission scenarios) which is clearly nonsense.

    Vaccine will be available next year, i suspect even earlier, herd immunity won't kick in at all. Slowing it down is buying time, it may even be suppressed altogether in a few months, but every country needs go on lockdown


  • #1421
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    https://www.thejournal.ie/pandemic-unemployment-payment-coronavirus-jobseekers-5047512-Mar2020/


    For anyone who needs to sign on in the next while


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  • #1422
    branie2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Agreed


  • #1423
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    We are getting the new forum up and running now

    It can be accessed here and will become a sub-forum of Current Affairs

    I'm going to start moving threads over but I will leave this one where it is for now. I may re-open one or two that I previously closed

    The CA Charter applies over there


  • #1424
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    paw patrol wrote: »
    That will happen in spain too if they run out.
    It's happening in Italy due to a lack of ventilators sadly.
    I don't think anybody doing it lightly or because people are old. It's a hard choice of who has the best chance of being saved.
    Hopefully Ireland doesn't come to this - but this is why the "flattening the curve" mantra is so important

    I hope your parents are ok and stay safe.,


    Whatever about us the UK definitely will due to Boris` herd immunity ideas.


  • #1425
    dougm1970
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭dougm1970


    godson / nephew of mine...16...very sick today...sick since Saturday night but awful bad today....huge fever and coughing...dry cough too....seemingly someone coming out to test him today and it'll be two days for results
    a young fella whos never sick ..not a pick of fat on him.. does a lot of boxing and football.
    facetimed him there and was shocked how he looked, face swollen and sweaty...hes in bed and has no energy at all.

    may not be it at all....but its just hes never sick and has these symptoms at this time.

    his family have been told to self isolate.


  • #1426
    Scotty #
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    Bob24 wrote: »
    Below is a leaked email...

    GO AWAY!!!!


  • #1427
    threeball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,768 ✭✭✭threeball


    3 medical professionals from France, Denmark and Spain on Sky news earlier were none to complimentary of the UK's choice. Basically called it madness and said it was a worry having such a hotspot just across the channel. If thats what they're saying on British TV what are they saying in European council meetings. Briatain also withdrew itself from being involved in the daily health ministers briefings. What the fcuk are they at. Why would you refuse priceless info at a time like this


  • #1428
    leavingirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 551 ✭✭✭leavingirl


    1641 wrote: »
    There was an article in one of yesterday's papers to the effect that, after the 2009 flu pandemic, most insurance companies added a clause to specifically exclude global pandemics from corporate cover. It said that before WHO officially declared a pandemic last week companies might have an arguable, but difficult, argument for cover but this would have disappeared with the WHO declaration.
    Well spotted. This is all designed to screw the little people.


  • #1429
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,078 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Can I just say shutdown is NOT a bad thing!!!

    I am in spain, working from home, can go out to shops and get things, panic buying seems to have passed, plenty of food in the shops - people are being socially responsible , most shops only allow one or 2 in at a time people q with good spacing outside the shop.

    It is awful for the cabin fever and mental health but this has to slow the spread.
    People should be happy when Ireland announce it - not panic!
    Total opposite here at the moment H, once they set foot in the door of the shop with the whole family in tow it's a free for all. Tannoy announcements are being made to remind people to stay 2m apart but no one is doing it. People getting as close as they can to staff to ask questions etc. Coughing everywhere without covering their mouth, everything they are not supposed to be doing basically.


  • #1430
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    jmayo wrote: »
    Yes Irish people are shyte at doing what they are told.
    There is that rebellious streak there.
    Now that can be a good thing and a bad thing especially at times like this.

    Just look at Temple Bar over the last week.

    Then again it is not just the Irish that have difficulty following some instructions.
    In the US the governor of Illinois, mayor of Hoboken, New Jersey forcibly closed pubs and restuarants because asking people to socially distance themselves was simply not working.



    What a charming bunch.
    A pity this virus doesn't target scrotes and scumbags rather than elderly and already sick. :rolleyes:

    I think to be out doing ****e like that it isn't a culture thing it's a bunch of selfish simpletons, that haven't the brains to comprehend what's going on around em.


  • #1431
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Clarence Boddiker wrote: »
    If the announcement does come tomorrow, remember all the Journalists like this one who are lying to you

    Screen-Shot-2020-03-15-at-22-28-08.png

    OK just starting into the thread as I decided last night to take a break and I'm done now with this one at 11 pages by my settings.

    What ever about journalists, people posting ****e on whatsapp etc should be shot at with balls of ****e.

    Also noticed that people who tend to come of as a bit of a dick in other threads are just ramping up this impression on these threads.

    I'm sure that people probably think the same of me for posting this, but hey I am sure that you don't care what I think and I don't care what you think about me.

    Stay safe and look after yourselves.


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  • #1432
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    pH wrote: »
    Here's the problem with this:
    Ireland has around 250 ICU beds. But let's be generous and say that somehow we get that number up to 500 and they aren't needed for anything else apart from cov-19 cases. Let's also be extremely optimistic and say that each person needs the bed for only 10 day, this means that a theoretically highly stretched Irish health service could cope with 50 new severe covid-19 cases per day (in a highly unrealistic scenario where the beds are being used for just this)

    We also know that that for a population like we have somewhere around 5% of cases will need this type of intensive care. Which means that again, in theory we could have 1,000 people a day being infected and 'barely' cope. This would still lead to around 1% 'unavoidable' mortality rate, but we as a society would not be letting anyone die unnecessarily.

    So estimates for herd immunity vary, but 70% is not unreasonable ie. 3,400,000 people based on the current pop of Ireland. So you can see that those advocating 'flattening the curve' to keep corona virus below the capacity of the health service, if they were being honest would be talking about a period of 3,400 days (ie just short of 10 years) until this 'herd immunity' is reached. This would be 10 years of continual lock-down (slow virus transmission scenarios) which is clearly nonsense.
    Herd immunity only applies when the recovered have a sufficient quantities antibodies present, and those antibodies have a sufficient life span to resist the the subsequent transmissions.

    Whether that is going to be the case with COVID-19 is very much an open question based on currently available evidence.


  • #1433
    eggy81
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭eggy81


    jmayo wrote: »
    Yes Irish people are shyte at doing what they are told.
    There is that rebellious streak there.
    Now that can be a good thing and a bad thing especially at times like this.

    Just look at Temple Bar over the last week.

    Then again it is not just the Irish that have difficulty following some instructions.
    In the US the governor of Illinois, mayor of Hoboken, New Jersey forcibly closed pubs and restuarants because asking people to socially distance themselves was simply not working.



    What a charming bunch.
    A pity this virus doesn't target scrotes and scumbags rather than elderly and already sick. :rolleyes:

    Were the biggest bunch of yes men in Europe.


  • #1434
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,723 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    threeball wrote: »
    Briatain also withdrew itself from being involved in the daily health ministers briefings. What the fcuk are they at. Why would you refuse priceless info at a time like this

    Taking back control, innit.


  • #1435
    Nermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭Nermal


    pH wrote: »
    Here's the problem with this:
    Ireland has around 250 ICU beds. But let's be generous and say that somehow we get that number up to 500 and they aren't needed for anything else apart from cov-19 cases. Let's also be extremely optimistic and say that each person needs the bed for only 10 day, this means that a theoretically highly stretched Irish health service could cope with 50 new severe covid-19 cases per day (in a highly unrealistic scenario where the beds are being used for just this)

    We also know that that for a population like we have somewhere around 5% of cases will need this type of intensive care. Which means that again, in theory we could have 1,000 people a day being infected and 'barely' cope. This would still lead to around 1% 'unavoidable' mortality rate, but we as a society would not be letting anyone die unnecessarily.

    So estimates for herd immunity vary, but 70% is not unreasonable ie. 3,400,000 people based on the current pop of Ireland. So you can see that those advocating 'flattening the curve' to keep corona virus below the capacity of the health service, if they were being honest would be talking about a period of 3,400 days (ie just short of 10 years) until this 'herd immunity' is reached. This would be 10 years of continual lock-down (slow virus transmission scenarios) which is clearly nonsense.

    Sound mathematics.

    But I think 5% ICU from the low-risk population is a significant overestimate.

    Regardless - we need to get the number of ICU beds up to 5,000, not 500. At the same time, controls on the low-risk population need to be relaxed, and enforced more strongly on the high-risk population.


  • #1436
    Humberto Salazar
    Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Should I chance getting a haircut tomorrow?

    You're going to get a financial one anyway very soon, so why not?


  • #1437
    kalkat2002
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 761 ✭✭✭kalkat2002


    Spain 9191 cases 309 death at 1 pm


  • #1438
    Chardee MacDennis
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,228 ✭✭✭Chardee MacDennis


    MD1990 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/SteadyImproving/status/1237527438176878593

    dont know this isnt mentioned much.

    but obesity is a leading cause.
    so improving diet & losing weight will help greatly to improve your chances.

    he doesnt say that is a leading cause....

    He says it will be the major factor in the US as there is a high incidence of obesity which is an underlying health condition most people dont think of.


  • #1439
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,149 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Anyone over 80 needing hospital treatment basically gets a death sentence at the moment in Italy.


  • #1440
    Red for Danger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 128 ✭✭Red for Danger


    About food

    Its fine saying supply lines are good but people are going to be stocking up so they will not have to leave home for the worst 10/15 days.
    This worst 10/15 day period may not start until another 10/15 days??? So a family of 5 are gonna need a lot of grub to be sure to get through the worst period. Also families are only now realising how much the actually eat when everyone is home for every meal...


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  • #1441
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Chardee MacDennis wrote: »
    he doesnt say that is a leading cause....

    He says it will be the major factor in the US as there is a high incidence of obesity which is an underlying health condition most people dont think of.

    Yeah, obesity usually goes hand in hand with blood pressure, heart disease and diabetes


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