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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • #1382
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Cupatae wrote: »
    Infairness the whole town where I'm from has locked down aside from dunnes Tesco's and the pharmacy , pubs and everything else is closed as far as I can see , so didn't seem too outlandish that a 2 week stay at home to delay would happen, it d make sense. , Guess I get to go into work and mingle with 200 other people get the spread going!

    Can't wait to go to the canteen for lunch ðŸ˜

    I thought Leo said that workplaces should stagger their break times. Is that not happening at your place?


  • #1383
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    ShayNanigan wrote: »
    I sort of hope the authorities would nail my neighbour's door shut. I'm amazed their door hasn't fallen out of its hinges at the rate they are coming and going; packing the kids to the car and leaving, then arriving and unpacking the car and the same thing within an hour again. Also bunch of people gathering and tittle-tattling away on the street like it's a normal day.

    I feel like I should go and try to get some food from the shops but I know it's useless. I have no wish to end up in the middle of a group of coughing people fighting over the last case of beer and toilet rolls.

    Go out and get some fresh air ya maniac. Stop obsessing over your neighbours.

    Shops are also grand.


  • #1384
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,196 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Local Centra has been mostly cleared out of cases of beer, except for Budweiser.

    There's no demand for that... 'cos it's shíte.


  • #1385
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    paw patrol wrote: »
    who said the bit in bold?

    No one is talking about not treating the old and unproductive. The Irish Medical Council has issued advise to doctors that if the medical services are overwhelmed patients more likely to survive may have to be prioritised.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-patients-with-best-chance-of-survival-to-be-prioritised-1.4203716%3fmode=amp

    The Spanish equivalents have had similar discussions or if they have not will have to do it informally on the front line. It has happened to a great extent already in Italy.


  • #1386
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Loughc wrote: »
    It is bull thanks for sharing. You got any chain texts or emails to send too? Maybe a Facebook will start charging unless you post this status perhaps?

    I know - sure how can it be correct when there CIA are currently working with Rotschilds to get the army to put flouride into our water supply


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  • #1387
    loobylou
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭loobylou


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Local Centra has been mostly cleared out of cases of beer, except for Budweiser.

    At least some sense is prevailing.


  • #1388
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,280 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Cupatae wrote: »
    So basically because we're a bunch of apes that can do what were told were gonna spread the ****e out of this virus... Unreal what a nation..

    Yes I'd say so.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/cheery-orchard-garda-incident-5047312-Mar2020/

    Do you really think people in these areas are going to follow any instructions issued?


  • #1389
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Poor_old_gill wrote: »
    Just got a whatsapp from a mate......

    Your best bet

    giphy.gif


  • #1390
    Nijmegen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Local Centra has been mostly cleared out of cases of beer, except for Budweiser.

    It's the people behind Rockshore I feel sorry for. Feels like the nation would rather drink its own hungover p1ss for a taste of alcohol than that stuff judging by crates left in shops.


  • #1391
    Syncpolice
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭Syncpolice


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    Shutdown, total lockdown, code red.... so much nonsense at the moment. What do any of those terms mean? Even across europe total and complete lockdown means different things in different countries and even within different areas of those countries.

    Here's the bottom line, its one day at a time, comprising of one hour at a time and containing multiple meetings at official level reacting to the latest information compiled minute by minute.

    Stay in and stay safe... you will be told when anything changes. Stay off social media and stick to official sources. Get to know when the daily press conferences are held and you will find out at the same time as everyone else.

    hse.ie is all you need to know.

    Some people are still at work


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  • #1392
    Scotty #
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    Syncpolice wrote: »
    Are they making a judgement call between putting thousands more on the dole queue and virus spreading faster

    Still trying to figure out what's coming
    Well kind of, yes. It's a balancing act. They are trying to keep the daily numbers as low as possible so our health service is able to cope. They've closed schools and pubs in an effort to do this. If they're still t0o high they'll have to extend this to Restaurants, Cafe's etc. Then all non essential retail... and so on.

    People sill need food/medicine etc so a total lockdown is never going to happen.


  • #1393
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Omackeral wrote: »
    Your best bet

    giphy.gif

    Did you even read the post!

    Also - that looks very similar to what happens every time i text a woman so to see a pictorial representation of it has both angered and upset me


  • #1394
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Antares35 wrote: »
    And if reports are true about the virus thriving in cold climates then Spain for the foreseeable might make more sense! :)
    Temperature makes little or no difference. Look at the new cases in countries with warm climates. Isolation is the only way to slow this thing down.


  • #1395
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,724 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Local Centra has been mostly cleared out of cases of beer, except for Budweiser.

    So they're cleared out of beer.


  • #1396
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Cork Boy 53 wrote: »
    I thought Leo said that workplaces should stagger their break times. Is that not happening at your place?

    Not at all, people don't bother there bollox I go to the car for break and eat there but it's pretty much treated as nonsense , outside of a sign about it and a little bottle of hand sanitizer.


  • #1397
    bekker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    INMO Trolley Watch figures below for March 16th 2020

    https://www.inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch

    Irish hospitals only 35 beds short today.

    must be a record low for this time of year !
    Numbers of elective surgeries cancelled, freeing up beds.


  • #1398
    pH
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,188 ✭✭✭pH


    Scotty # wrote: »
    We can't avoid it. Ultimately it will come down to herd immunity. What we are trying to do now is slow it down so that the number of new cases per day is still manageable by the health services. Once the health services become overwhelmed the vulnerable will have a far lesser chance of survival.

    Here's the problem with this:
    Ireland has around 250 ICU beds. But let's be generous and say that somehow we get that number up to 500 and they aren't needed for anything else apart from cov-19 cases. Let's also be extremely optimistic and say that each person needs the bed for only 10 day, this means that a theoretically highly stretched Irish health service could cope with 50 new severe covid-19 cases per day (in a highly unrealistic scenario where the beds are being used for just this)

    We also know that that for a population like we have somewhere around 5% of cases will need this type of intensive care. Which means that again, in theory we could have 1,000 people a day being infected and 'barely' cope. This would still lead to around 1% 'unavoidable' mortality rate, but we as a society would not be letting anyone die unnecessarily.

    So estimates for herd immunity vary, but 70% is not unreasonable ie. 3,400,000 people based on the current pop of Ireland. So you can see that those advocating 'flattening the curve' to keep corona virus below the capacity of the health service, if they were being honest would be talking about a period of 3,400 days (ie just short of 10 years) until this 'herd immunity' is reached. This would be 10 years of continual lock-down (slow virus transmission scenarios) which is clearly nonsense.


  • #1399
    deathbomber
    Closed Accounts Posts: 332 ✭✭deathbomber


    D.Q wrote: »
    Go out and get some fresh air ya maniac. Stop obsessing over your neighbours.

    Shops are also grand.

    actually the virus could be on surfaces, we are essentially depending on each other to practice good hygiene, whilst a low chance, you should be vigilant at all times, so there is a chance of contracting the virus in shops and also kids in playgrounds etc. So at the moment, i would say shops are not grand as when i was in Lidl yesterday, it was quite apparent some people were not doing this and just going about things as normal


  • #1400
    Corkgirl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Corkgirl20


    Numbers on Wednesday may be very high due to backlog.
    Friend was tested on Saturday and told results will be given today. He rang and they said there’s a backlog so results will be given on Wednesday. Not sure if all weekend results will be given on Wednesday or not.


  • #1401
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Syncpolice wrote: »
    Some people are still at work

    Yes... me too. Still observing the social distancing recommendations.


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  • #1402
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Poor_old_gill wrote: »
    Did you even read the post!

    Also - that looks very similar to what happens every time i text a woman so to see a pictorial representation of it has both angered and upset me

    Stop sending them pictures of your mickey.


  • #1403
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Can I just say shutdown is NOT a bad thing!!!

    I am in spain, working from home, can go out to shops and get things, panic buying seems to have passed, plenty of food in the shops - people are being socially responsible , most shops only allow one or 2 in at a time people q with good spacing outside the shop.

    It is awful for the cabin fever and mental health but this has to slow the spread.
    People should be happy when Ireland announce it - not panic!


  • #1404
    paw patrol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    Antares35 wrote: »
    To be honest I cant even remember now but there was some talk about having to make decisions on who would get ICU beds if there is a shortage.

    That will happen in spain too if they run out.
    It's happening in Italy due to a lack of ventilators sadly.
    I don't think anybody doing it lightly or because people are old. It's a hard choice of who has the best chance of being saved.
    Hopefully Ireland doesn't come to this - but this is why the "flattening the curve" mantra is so important

    I hope your parents are ok and stay safe.,


  • #1405
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Stop sending them pictures of your mickey.

    Should I send them pictures of someone elses?


  • #1406
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,188 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Rob A. Bank wrote: »
    INMO Trolley Watch figures below for March 16th 2020

    https://www.inmo.ie/Trolley_Ward_Watch

    Irish hospitals only 35 beds short today.

    must be a record low for this time of year !


    From 600 a few months ago, does the virus cure some illnesses like stupidity :pac:


  • #1407
    ShayNanigan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭ShayNanigan


    http://www.openculture.com/2020/03/quarantined-italians-send-a-message-to-themselves.html

    Not really that surprising but I am thinking there are many who will only understand once things get worse.


  • #1408
    Cupatae
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    Infairness to the what's app message a two week completely lockdown , to break the back of the spread and stop hospitals being over run , had made more sense than any of the ****e being spouted on the news.


  • #1409
    Rob A. Bank
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Distribution of laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the EU/EEA and the UK, as of 16 March 2020

    novel-coronavirus-cases-EU-UK-2020-03-16.png?itok=GqyCImQQ

    Big jump in daily cases from Europe today at 08:00. to nearly 12,000/day

    No figures from Italy yesterday... perhaps they were too busy to even bother counting.

    Horrific situation there !

    Larger view of barchart here :- https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea


  • #1410
    Cork Boy 53
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,829 ✭✭✭Cork Boy 53


    Syncpolice wrote: »
    Some people are still at work

    Unless you are in an essential service you may not be for too much longer.


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  • #1411
    Scotty #
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,782 ✭✭✭Scotty #


    pH wrote: »
    Here's the problem with this:
    Ireland has around 250 ICU beds. But let's be generous and say that somehow we get that number up to 500 and they aren't needed for anything else apart from cov-19 cases. Let's also be extremely optimistic and say that each person needs the bed for only 10 day, this means that a theoretically highly stretched Irish health service could cope with 50 new covid-19 cases per day (in a highly unrealistic scenario where the beds are being used for just this)

    We also know that that for a population like we have somewhere around 5% of cases will need this type of intensive care. Which means that again, in theory we could have 1,000 people a day being infected and 'barely' cope. This would still lead to around 1% 'unavoidable' mortality rate, but we as a society would not be letting anyone die unnecessarily.

    So estimates for herd immunity vary, but 70% is not unreasonable ie. 3,400,000 people based on the current pop of Ireland. So you can see that those advocating 'flattening the curve' to keep corona virus below the capacity of the health service, if they were being honest would be talking about a period of 3,400 days (ie just short of 10 years) until this 'herd immunity' is reached. This would be 10 years of continual lock-down (slow virus transmission scenarios) which is clearly nonsense.
    You are right, but we're hoping we have a vaccine and better treatment meds by then.

    I think(hope!) we're prepping for many multiplies of the ICU units we currently have.


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