CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP

martingriff · 16-03-2020 10:58AM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Im not happy with our plan either.

I would have prefered we d stopped humans travelling in/quarrantined 4/6 weeks ago. At least then the country could have some sort of normality. Keep the virus out instead of dealing with it.

Sounds extreme, but so does our plan and uks and every other countries plan

Where would you quarantined all those people. Where would you have got all the people to monitor these people on an ongoing basis and why 4/6 weeks

Tordelback · 16-03-2020 10:58AM

Jin luk wrote: »

Anyone shed any light on why japan has under 1000 cases?

The most hygiene-obsessed people in the world, with almost crushing pressure of social conformity, valued public service and a long history of dealing efficiently with appalling disasters that would have destroyed most nations? Who can tell.

Drumpot · 16-03-2020 10:59AM

Jin luk wrote: »

Anyone shed any light on why japan has under 1000 cases? Really dont make sense to me how this is when china has the numbers it has?

My guess is that initially China tried to bury the problem (rememeber the whistleblower doctor who disappeared?) which made the outbreak much worse and spread quicker. They only came clean because they absolutely had to.

With regards to Japan, my guess is that Asian countries are very efficient at dealing with these because they have had to in the past. We are having to shut everything down because we aren’t equipped to respond well or react quickly to what’s unfolding. We also, as a population, are uneducated so don’t know how to react which makes it worse.

The fact that sporting events , travelling and different measures to slow it down are being met with so much resistance says it all about our response. Hopefully this doesn’t turn out too bad and actually puts some manners on us all because nature doesn’t abide by our flimsy rules.......

Cork Boy 53 · 16-03-2020 10:59AM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Simon coveny on redfm just now “lockdown message at 11am is complete nonsense”

He said the same on Morning Ireland on RTE. Had a go at social media for spreading false rumours.

Wibbs · 16-03-2020 10:59AM

Jin luk wrote: »

Anyone shed any light on why japan has under 1000 cases? Really dont make sense to me how this is when china has the numbers it has?

Well maybe because like China, Taiwan and other regions in the area they've already had the scares around SARS and bird flu so were a little more geared up for it? Plus there's much more social compliance in general in far eastern cultures, less individualistic panic and the like compared to European cultures. There's also a culture of wearing face masks in play across the region, whereas here you have people buying and hoarding them, but few actually wearing the damn things. On top of that Japanese society is incredibly efficient in the face of social and engineering challenges. EG look how quickly they got back up and running after the tsunami that wrecked the country. Yes the Fukushima power station is still in play, but even there they were fast acting and look how quickly the Japanese repaired roads and other infrastructure after the waves subsided. They fixed whole intersections over the space of a weekend.

Multipass · 16-03-2020 11:00AM

Jin luk wrote: »

Fair enough point but that would make more sense back in the spanish flu, their would be so much travel between the 2 nations same as here as we are an island too?

Probably not that much travel between the two countries given that they despise each other.

voluntary · 16-03-2020 11:00AM

China:

8 new cases on Friday
11 new cases on Saturday
25 new cases yesterday
35 new cases right now

Are they facing a remission?

kingshankly · 16-03-2020 11:00AM

Deleted User wrote: »

People panic buying again this morning, shop I work in was quiet enough over the weekend but it's gone crazy again this morning. People ignoring the advice about keeping distance between people where possible and whole families in shopping. Can one parent not stay at home while the other gets the shopping?

I was in Lidl this morning and was no signs of panic buying was a few on but not enough to open a second till 🙈

Funsterdelux · 16-03-2020 11:00AM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Hindsight, yes I kind of agree, but that have been realistically possible? Probably not.

I know hinsight ....but many people were saying back then here at least.

Maybe if we had Dev in charge!

Some countries did close borders before they had cases. Doesnt mean they dont already have it but it would surely curtail a large spread.

I love travelling but if at any stage I was told we couldnt go abroad for leisure reasons ever again for the sake of both the environment and humans health, it wouldnt bother me.

We've been living in a bubble of convienence for 50 or so years. Like a real bubble has a very thin shell.

martingriff · 16-03-2020 11:02AM

Boggles wrote: »

Any further lockdown will come with notice I imagine.

My advice is instead of pasta, go get some DIY stuff, paint etc.

There will be long days ahead that will need filling. Tackle the jobs that you have been putting off.

Any further. You know what lockdown means yes. It is either it is or it isn't not stages.

Jin luk · 16-03-2020 11:02AM

Tordelback wrote: »

The most hygiene-obsessed people in the world, with almost crushing pressure of social conformity, valued public service and a long history of dealing efficiently with appalling disasters that would have destroyed most nations? Who can tell.

Nice point, thought of that a few weeks back italy and ireland would be very community based as in wed always come in contact with randomers i was thinking japan would be more introverted than us? Not as sociable as here?

gazzer · 16-03-2020 11:02AM

I've volunteered to get redeployed to the HSE to do contact tracing calls. Just waiting to here when it will start etc

daheff · 16-03-2020 11:02AM

voluntary wrote: »

China:

8 new cases on Friday
11 new cases on Saturday
25 new cases yesterday
35 new cases right now

Are they facing a remission?

They are mainly imported cases....not community spread cases.

They are where we were last week

Boooourns · 16-03-2020 11:02AM

Jin luk wrote: »

Anyone shed any light on why japan has under 1000 cases? Really dont make sense to me how this is when china has the numbers it has?

They are not testing as much as they should and it's blatantly to do with the fact they are planning to have the Olympics in the Summer, its crazy stuff.

DOCARCH · 16-03-2020 11:02AM

Syncpolice wrote: »

What sort of timeframe before work shuts

This is important for those transitioning to welfare

I think it will all depend on the daily number of cases. If they start going through the roof, then I suspect next week.

kingshankly · 16-03-2020 11:02AM

Fics wrote: »

Ringing insurance company to see about a flight refund approx a 40 min wait.

Wonder will cancellation due to my partner having holidays revoked due to needing all hands on deck be a valid reason ( healthcare worker )

Would have thought a global pandemic might have been a better excuse 😂

Nermal · 16-03-2020 11:02AM

voluntary wrote: »

China:

8 new cases on Friday
11 new cases on Saturday
25 new cases yesterday
35 new cases right now

Are they facing a remission?

This cannot be defeated with lockdowns. The low-risk population need to get infected, and as quick a rate as possible in such a way that deaths are minimised - not eliminated, minimised.

16-03-2020 11:03AM

The Medical Council have issued guidance to doctors on prioritising treatment:

"Patients with the best chance of survival are to be prioritised as coronavirus overwhelms the health service, even where families disagree, the Medical Council has told doctors.

“In making decisions based on the principle of prioritising the use of scarce resources to treat those patients most likely to survive, more lives are likely to be preserved,” it has said."

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-patients-with-best-chance-of-survival-to-be-prioritised-1.4203716

Tordelback · 16-03-2020 11:03AM

martingriff wrote: »

Where would you quarantined all those people. Where would you have got all the people to monitor these people on an ongoing basis and why 4/6 weeks

Agreed. In the modern world it was never possible to stop it coming in once it had escaped China, it's slowing its spread within our communities that resources have to be focused on. Walls remain populist nonsense.

tigger123 · 16-03-2020 11:03AM

1 HOUR UNTIL COMPLETE LOCKDOWN AND THE MILITARY WELD YOU INTO YOUR SHED

Sittingpretty · 16-03-2020 11:03AM

gazzer wrote: »

I've volunteered to get redeployed to the HSE to do contact tracing calls. Just waiting to here when it will start etc

How did u do this? I could do this also, might distract me from my anxieties.

BarryD2 · 16-03-2020 11:03AM

martingriff wrote: »

Where would you quarantined all those people.

No problem. They could simply have been told to stay at home for two weeks and see if symptoms developed. They might have passed it onto immediate family members but that would have far more containable. We allowed them back to school & work and fell behind the curve.

amadangomor · 16-03-2020 11:03AM

You'd wonder do some people have their heads in the clouds or are too stupid to get how much things have changed-

Got one of those dodgy leaflets in door for clothes collection later in week.

Knex* · 16-03-2020 11:04AM

appledrop wrote: »

Doing a clear out of house today + found Irish Times article from February 29th. That's only 2 weeks ago.

Figures then for Italy was 655 confirmed cases + Spain was 25 cases .

Holy F@@k look at them both now.

Now imagine the past two weeks for their front line staff.

They must be physically and emotionally wrecked.

Syncpolice · 16-03-2020 11:04AM

Does Coveny and vardkar think the public is crash test dummies

Serious information vacuum here

Coveny on the radio then saying WhatsApp rumours are nonsense

Snow Garden · 16-03-2020 11:04AM

kingshankly wrote: »

I was in Lidl this morning and was no signs of panic buying was a few on but not enough to open a second till ��

I was talking to a buyer last night. The stocks are fine and the supply chain is fine. There is some lag time over very specific product (e.g. buttermilk) but the supermarkets are not going to run out of food. He is putting in very large orders every day. He did say that the supermarket staff are overworked and shattered. They've had to put up with a lot of 'Christmas Eves' in the past week. The panic buying was idiocy and shameful.

Lashes28 · 16-03-2020 11:04AM

Will there really a need for the army to aid in a lockdown?? You would swear Ireland will turn into a bunch of savages running amok on the streets just because we have been told to stay in.
The amount of people who don't adhere to a lockdown will be tiny and you can nearly guarantee where abouts it will happen

Hrududu · 16-03-2020 11:04AM

manofwisdom wrote: »

I think the mods need to start handing out bans to the posters that was posting fake news on here yesterday. Things are bad enough than having idiots posting nonsense in the effort to make people panic more..

Any post that starts with "I hear" etc. Its just adding to the panic. Hence all the panic buying again today due to all the lockdown nonsense

amadangomor · 16-03-2020 11:04AM

tigger123 wrote: »

1 HOUR UNTIL COMPLETE LOCKDOWN AND THE MILITARY WELD YOU INTO YOUR SHED

I know you are being sarky but no time for that, some people will take it seriously, cop on.

munsterlegend · 16-03-2020 11:05AM

tigger123 wrote: »

1 HOUR UNTIL COMPLETE LOCKDOWN AND THE MILITARY WELD YOU INTO YOUR SHED

I don’t have a shed?

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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) Read OP