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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭Blackhorse Slim


    Timevto mobilize the youth! Arm all the bored schoolkids with supersoakers full of warm water and washing up liquid, send them outside and let them at it! Fun, fresh air, exercise, and disinfected streets :-)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Where is the big announcement?

    Be on WhatsApp.
    Only


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    froog wrote: »
    ireland 2 deaths 5 recovered officially.
    Always good to see recoveries. Chinese numbers show nearly 68,000 recovered and just 22 cases today.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Where is the big announcement?

    Yep 8am according to Jin Luk’s other half who works in Aldi. I mean if we can’t trust that then I don’t know....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,085 ✭✭✭Pacing Mule


    This explains UK approach in a way that makes a bit of sense to me....


    I’m going to explain Boris’s method for anybody who doesn’t quite get it I’m not saying if I agree with his plan or not but here goes

    His plan is to segregate all vulnerable people (older, illand at risk) let’s call this group A

    Anyone looking after the older,ill and at risk can be group B

    The general population generally healthy can be group C

    Group C needs to go about it’s business keeping the country moving kids at school us at work

    Group B looks after group A and avoids contact with C

    Group C is allowed to contract the virus and because it’s generally healthy it can cope with it better than group A

    Group A and B are almost self isolating without the virus to avoid putting strain on the NHS and reducing the risk of getting the virus and then needing the NHS

    Group C (the generally healthy) go through the cycle of contracting the virus self isolating and being looked after by healthy family members, friends and the local community
    Anyone who has complications gets looked after by the NHS while groups A and B are kept away The NHS are not strained by A and B while its looking after complicated cases in C

    As group C comes full circle and recovers it divides in to groups that take group B’s position looking after group A allowing group B to go though the cycle

    With B and C though the cycle
    A is free to have NHS to itself because B and C are now clear from illness and infection and hopefully have a degree of immunity from getting it again this season.

    Hope this helps

    Everyone has a job to do for the above to work

    Stay safe and keep washing those hands

    Please feel free to share folks


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    Timevto mobilize the youth! Arm all the bored schoolkids with supersoakers full of warm water and washing up liquid, send them outside and let them at it! Fun, fresh air, exercise, and disinfected streets :-)

    Waaaa
    That’s soooo unfair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 389 ✭✭Jin luk


    Where is the big announcement?

    Waiting myself, or if u listened to morning ireland you would have a better idea, information overload to the public is a key word taking from it, also never denied the post circulating last night state seevices and gps wont be able to do this alone he says, it really is only a matter of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭Pos087


    Bringing back something like 20,000 Irish tourists from Spain, what absolute meatheads thought it was a great idea to continue with travel plans?

    My parents live in Spain half the year and returned to Ireland this week. Not all people are comin back from holidays. My parents are old and scared and wanted to be near their family. Blind anger at certain groups is not helpful either


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    Bringing back something like 20,000 Irish tourists from Spain, what absolute meatheads thought it was a great idea to continue with travel plans?

    Anyone who travelled while this was unfolding deserves to be left there. How thick would you want to be?

    It has surprised me some of the people I know who have actually carried on regardless. It has really changed my opinion of them, such self centered.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    This explains UK approach in a way that makes a bit of sense to me....

    If only it were so simple! It works in theory (....but I suspect in theory only).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,708 ✭✭✭irishgeo


    Jin luk wrote: »
    Waiting myself, or if u listened to morning ireland you would have a better idea, information overload to the public is a key word taking from it, also never denied the post circulating last night state seevices and gps wont be able to do this alone he says, it really is only a matter of time.

    The army will be asked to help but not in the way people are talking about now.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    This explains UK approach in a way that makes a bit of sense to me....

    Group B looks after group A and avoids contact with C

    s

    I think it would work if this part could be achieved But if group C are moving about freely it is impossible to stop the spread from C to A. Group C still have to be locked down to some extent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭kevcos


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    If only it were so simple! It works in theory (....but I suspect in theory only).

    So your theory is that the UKs plan only works in theory?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,458 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Where is the big announcement?

    Snickers bar to return to its old Marathon name


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    That fact that something can jump from one species to another is unfortunate. It happens, we learn, and they will probably crackdown on it in the future and introduce distancing.

    But in fairness if we lived there we would all be shopping there. I saw pics and it isn't the gore-fest you seem to think it is.
    Wet markets that are found in the Far East and some parts of Africa with wild and domesticated animals being held and butchered in the same place around humans coming and going in large urban areas are viral factories and pathogen time bombs. There isn't a research centre or university on the planet that would let you run that as a practical experiment. It's just too bloody dangerous.

    The yearly flu season? That's where they come from. Sars? Ditto. HIV? Well guess what... And now this virus*. If such markets didn't exist we quite simply would have had far fewer outbreaks of any viruses and we certainly would not have this one. They need to be shut down forever and left in the past where they belong. And on another note they also contribute to species being endangered and even going extinct in the parts of the world where they operate, China in particular, but also Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand.




    *researchers have noted that when similar style markets and food supply went out of fashion in Europe the rates of various contagions and "plagues" went right down.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    irishgeo wrote: »
    The army will be asked to help but not in the way people are talking about now.

    Army have been helping for last few days.
    Been making preparations in the Curragh camp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    paw patrol wrote: »
    the government and the banks pretty much stated this , nobody will be forced out over non payments during the crisis.

    even the revenue , the most heartless bastard of them all , is saying they'll work with businesses who cant make returns.


    Of course you'll eventually have to pay but It's good to see , to a large degree we are all in this together.

    With respect 'pretty much stated' isn't good enough.

    Pascal Donohoe was on the radio yesterday morning waffling on about how the banks are 'aware' and 'some' banks have measures available for those who go talk to them.
    Another poster wrote in the last thread about how they approached AIB and the 'help' was to to go interest only for a set period of time at the cost of their credit rating - and this apparently is down to govt legislation/central bank rules.

    That's no fecking help at all.

    We need a clear statement by government of exactly what measures are in place and that all banks are on board.

    We also need a statement as to what measures will be there to help those who rent. Not 'pretty much saying'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Where is the big announcement?

    Take this as gospel, europecar have said the army are taking control of all the icecream vans


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    kevcos wrote: »
    So your theory is that the UKs plan only works in theory?

    That's my theory! :pac:

    I am not sure people can be so disciplined. People will give up isolating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Do people think our society will go back to normal after this or will it restructure how we live?

    I feel this is only going to add to the Nationalist wave that is sweeping the world. I wonder if the world can ever go back to Normal. This is different to anything that has gone before. I just have a bad feeling about this. The ECB needs to start printing money now and give it to governments across europe to keep cash flowing or financial strain will begin to have a social impact.

    What happens when landlords come looking for €1500 rent off tenants that don't have it. These are the things that start to create tension. People are in shock now but that will wear off and a new reality will set in.
    I personally think something like the Emergency act is needed soon (next 2 weeks) that is comprehensive and deals with every sector of scociety effected by this. If not, people will have too many unanswered questions and fear will cause them to act differently to before.

    I personally don't worry about the economic repercussions of this,why people always want to make money.
    Markets will stabilize I can see major changes to how stock markets will work new rules to avoid knee jerk reaction.
    As far as ECB they seem to have there heads screwed on compared to the feds.
    Socially I see huge changes I see .
    On a small thing socially I have fallen out with my sister because I won't let my children see there granny at the moment,
    Both my kids are unwell at the moment I just don't want to take a chance.
    My mother is not worried about getting sick, but my son is special needs, who will mind him if my wife and I get sick, definitely not my sister she won't spend more than 5 minutes with him sadly


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    This explains UK approach in a way that makes a bit of sense to me....


    I’m going to explain Boris’s method for anybody who doesn’t quite get it I’m not saying if I agree with his plan or not but here goes

    His plan is to segregate all vulnerable people (older, illand at risk) let’s call this group A

    Anyone looking after the older,ill and at risk can be group B

    The general population generally healthy can be group C

    Group C needs to go about it’s business keeping the country moving kids at school us at work

    Group B looks after group A and avoids contact with C

    Group C is allowed to contract the virus and because it’s generally healthy it can cope with it better than group A

    Group A and B are almost self isolating without the virus to avoid putting strain on the NHS and reducing the risk of getting the virus and then needing the NHS

    Group C (the generally healthy) go through the cycle of contracting the virus self isolating and being looked after by healthy family members, friends and the local community
    Anyone who has complications gets looked after by the NHS while groups A and B are kept away The NHS are not strained by A and B while its looking after complicated cases in C

    As group C comes full circle and recovers it divides in to groups that take group B’s position looking after group A allowing group B to go though the cycle

    With B and C though the cycle
    A is free to have NHS to itself because B and C are now clear from illness and infection and hopefully have a degree of immunity from getting it again this season.

    Hope this helps

    Everyone has a job to do for the above to work

    Stay safe and keep washing those hands

    Please feel free to share folks

    I see no flaws in this plan whatsoever


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    pjohnson wrote: »
    We should be so lucky to do that :(

    Why is Cheltenham being singled out??

    There are 70,000 people a day at Cheltenham, an outdoor event.

    There are around 70,000 people an hour on the tube, an enclosed area.

    Why aren't tourists who visited London getting shit???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    It's ****ing weird. Eating fithy rodents that are not fit for human consumption is a perfect example of weird behaviour.

    Not sure if anyone actually ate a bat. It appears that a bat bit an endangered animal called a pangolin, which is used in traditional Chinese medicine. The virus may have passed to humans that way. Measles, smallpox, influenza, HIV, diphtheria, the common cold and tuberculosis all originated in animals.

    Pathogens have been making the jump from animals to humans for millennia. Wet markets and eating 'bush meat' definitely increases the risk, however poor hungry people have very few alternatives. Some instances of the start of epidemics and pandemics:-

    The swine-origin influenza A (H1N1) virus appeared in 2009 and was first found in 2 children in Southern California. Influenza is quite common in pigs, with about half of breeding pigs having been exposed to the virus in the US. It infected around 700 million to 1.4 billion people, with about 150,000–575,000 fatalities.

    A 60 year old man in Saudi Arabia got a coronavirus infection from his camel, which may have been bitten by a bat and started the (2012) MERS epidemic, which had a 36% mortality rate.

    A two year old playing in a hollow tree with a bat colony started the recent (2013) Ebola epidemic infecting 28,616 people with 11,310 deaths in Africa.

    A farm boy in Kansas was infected from pigs with swine flu. He then joined the army to fight in WW1 is thought to have started the 1918 ‘Spanish’ flu pandemic which killed 50 – 100 million people.

    It's just a matter of chance where that happens and it could even happen here in Ireland. We even have an avian flu epidemic in some chicken farms at present.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,768 ✭✭✭threeball


    This explains UK approach in a way that makes a bit of sense to me....


    I’m going to explain Boris’s method for anybody who doesn’t quite get it I’m not saying if I agree with his plan or not but here goes

    His plan is to segregate all vulnerable people (older, illand at risk) let’s call this group A

    Anyone looking after the older,ill and at risk can be group B

    The general population generally healthy can be group C

    Group C needs to go about it’s business keeping the country moving kids at school us at work

    Group B looks after group A and avoids contact with C

    Group C is allowed to contract the virus and because it’s generally healthy it can cope with it better than group A

    Group A and B are almost self isolating without the virus to avoid putting strain on the NHS and reducing the risk of getting the virus and then needing the NHS

    Group C (the generally healthy) go through the cycle of contracting the virus self isolating and being looked after by healthy family members, friends and the local community
    Anyone who has complications gets looked after by the NHS while groups A and B are kept away The NHS are not strained by A and B while its looking after complicated cases in C

    As group C comes full circle and recovers it divides in to groups that take group B’s position looking after group A allowing group B to go though the cycle

    With B and C though the cycle
    A is free to have NHS to itself because B and C are now clear from illness and infection and hopefully have a degree of immunity from getting it again this season.

    Hope this helps

    Everyone has a job to do for the above to work

    Stay safe and keep washing those hands

    Please feel free to share folks

    All fine and dandy on paper but how do you keep the school kids who I'm sure are already infected in their droves away from Mum and Dad, the doctor, nurse, police officer who are needed without now giving them to granny and grandad. Parents are not gonna watch their kids through the windows of isolated bedrooms and pass jaffa cakes under the door.

    What they are proposing is impossible and they know it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,374 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    I try TV in the eve but invariably watch the news and it all starts up again. I know it’s self - sabotage but better to know. I think it’s the home alone factor.

    It's hard, even when you're not alone. And it's even harder to put your phone down and not tune into the radio. When you're feeling low you get dragged into it and believe the worse that's been posted. Just stay away, escape into a book or a mindless TV show or movie.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,890 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    I see no flaws in this plan whatsoever

    Other than people?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,655 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Been following the developments like everyone else for the last few weeks, but have got really angry this last 24hrs with some of the nonsense I have had to listen to from people, work colleagues etc.

    It was bad enough yesterday when I was told the Army were about to close the border....thats ok, but the latest stuff saying kids are sick in Cork and you'd need to stop giving your kids certain medicines, is downright dangerous and irresponsible. I don't know what possesses people to make these fake WhatsApp videos which will be taken onboard as gospel by a lot of people.

    Its the reason we have people not getting their kids vaccinated any more and why mumps and measles numbers are increasing.

    I wish they would catch themselves on, and give up trying to be famous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    :rolleyes:Ryan Tubridy on radio, yet again setting himself up as national oracle and great seer providing calm for the rabble.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,374 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Jin luk wrote: »
    Conveney on morning ireland, never denied the post circulating last night

    He did.


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    They literally welded people's doors shut, disinfected the streets, severely curtailed movement. It was brutal. Many anecdotally, died in their own homes, they are finding out now. There have been some cases of re infection, and that is a huge worry. I would say they are still very cautious.

    And yet we hear stories that they welded doors shut to force people to use a single exit allowing them to monitor (and probably control) movements

    Now it might not be the best thing from a fire safety perspective, but they probably thought that fire was lower down their risk assessments

    Of course we will hear "stories" of what happened, but how many mouths have your version of the "facts" gone through before reaching here?


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