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CoVid-19 Part VIII - 292 cases ROI (2 deaths) 62 in NI (as of 17th March) *Read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    GOOD NEWS

    USA company is starting vaccine trials on humans today.

    Australian company currently testing on animals

    Another company is expecting to start in 3 weeks

    Whilst it normally takes a further 12 months to be approved, you can take it that approval will be a lot quicker.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-vaccine-trial-us-cdc-trump-cure-seattle-covid-19-latest-a9403671.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    And all you can do is sit around and watch the shît hit the fan in slow motion. It's surreal

    You can practice good hygiene.
    You can ensure you keep social distancing.
    You can ensure you don't make unnecessary journeys.
    You can try to ensure your friends and family do the same.

    All the above is way harder than you think.
    If it were easy, we wouldn't need government measures to help us.

    Without us changing how we live, think and act, we won't beat this virus.

    We all CAN make a difference!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,439 ✭✭✭sideswipe


    UK yesterday.

    Castleford UK … score Castleford Tigers 28 : St Helens 14, attendance approx 8,000

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    Bath, UK :- Half marathon… 6.200 participants + many spectators

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    All these potential ‘Typhoid Marys’ will spread out all around the UK to add to the Crufts, football, concert and Cheltenham potentially infected crowds. And let’s not mention the Northern Ireland ‘Typhoid Marys’ crossing the border !

    Seems like the totally irresponsible UK Tory Government strategy of ‘Herd Immunity’ by letting 60% of the British population, or 45 Million people be infected, was still ongoing yesterday.

    :-(

    The winner of the Bath Half Marathon was Paul Pollock, an Irish Doctor and elite runner. You'd think he'd have more sense :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Darc19 wrote: »
    Whilst it normally takes a further 12 months to be approved, you can take it that approval will be a lot quicker.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-vaccine-trial-us-cdc-trump-cure-seattle-covid-19-latest-a9403671.html

    A bit worrying its going through so fast. I understand but still


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,033 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Darc19 wrote: »
    As people recover they become immune. So the trick is to get more and more carriers to recover and to social seperation to slow down the spread.

    Where has anyone shown to have built up an immunity to this? I haven't seen any evidence for this or seen it noted and I've been following this from the very start.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭GooglePlus


    Darc19 wrote: »
    GOOD NEWS

    USA company is starting vaccine trials on humans today.

    Australian company currently testing on animals

    Another company is expecting to start in 3 weeks

    Whilst it normally takes a further 12 months to be approved, you can take it that approval will be a lot quicker.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-vaccine-trial-us-cdc-trump-cure-seattle-covid-19-latest-a9403671.html

    Approval comes after its deemed safe, so I'd rather corners weren't cut.

    I'd take my chances with the virus over a vaccine that messes me up down the road.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Xertz wrote: »
    Where's the safest place in the world to be right now? Here's not looking or feeling like it nor is anywhere else in the EU or the US or Canada.

    I'm almost wondering would we be better off ensuring we don't have it, testing quarantining and going to some part of China that's got it fully under control and just teaching English or something for a few years...

    Please tell me you're not being serious. Take some time off this thread if you are..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭bmcc10


    It is very surreal seeing what has unfolded past few days at home and globally.

    Here in Japan it is life as normal crowded trains, crowded streets, crowded schools with hardly any measures or restrictions put in place surely the figures been released from here aren't accurate there is countries in lockdown with more cases daily it is all very worrying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    Please tell me you're not being serious. Take some time off this thread if you are..

    No, I'm being perfectly serious. I've connections out there and I could just take a couple of years off and go.

    It looks to me like Europe's going to be a complete mess and there's going to be a massive recession. The US isn't going to be a hell of a lot better or could be even worse. So, why not?

    I'll probably lose my job anyway.

    I've been through the 2008 crash and barely got out the other side, so just looking at options.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/

    Interesting article from the Washington Post that has simulators that show how effective different strategies are at slowing the spread.

    They seem to think the UK strategy won't work. Worth a look.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Xertz wrote: »
    No, I'm being perfectly serious. I've connections out there and I could just take a couple of years off and go.

    It looks to me like Europe's going to be a complete mess and there's going to be a massive recession. So, why not.

    I'll probably lose my job anyway.

    China is now probably one of the safest now. They are furthest ahead .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Steven81


    Xertz wrote: »
    No, I'm being perfectly serious. I've connections out there and I could just take a couple of years off and go.

    It looks to me like Europe's going to be a complete mess and there's going to be a massive recession. So, why not.

    I'll probably lose my job anyway.

    Get a bus/ train then go to the airport and then go on a plane. No fear of you catching it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    Maybe so but only after a severe lockdown after the first outbreak in Wuhan. No way does the same situation apply here.

    They literally welded people's doors shut, disinfected the streets, severely curtailed movement. It was brutal. Many anecdotally, died in their own homes, they are finding out now. There have been some cases of re infection, and that is a huge worry. I would say they are still very cautious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 653 ✭✭✭Irish_peppa


    Centre of prague desserted 9am on Monday morning looks like something from that outbreak movie :eek:
    https://www.earthcam.com/world/czechrepublic/prague/?cam=grandhotel_str


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    John Oiiver with a second look at COVID 19...





  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    Steven81 wrote: »
    Get a bus/ train then go to the airport and then go on a plane. No fear of you catching it.

    I'm probably going to get it anyway, if I don't already have it.

    I haven't slept properly in days though so it could just be my brain melting at this stage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 624 ✭✭✭Humberto Salazar


    bmcc10 wrote: »
    It is very surreal seeing what has unfolded past few days at home and globally.

    Here in Japan it is life as normal crowded trains, crowded streets, crowded schools with hardly any measures or restrictions put in place surely the figures been released from here aren't accurate there is countries in lockdown with more cases daily it is all very worrying.

    Looks like Japan sacrificing honesty and common good to get the Olympics to start on time. They should be cancelled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    They literally welded people's doors shut, disinfected the streets, severely curtailed movement. It was brutal. Many anecdotally, died in their own homes, they are finding out now. There have been some cases of re infection, and that is a huge worry. I would say they are still very cautious.

    the door welding was fake news in many cases, they were welding side doors in apartment buildings so that there was controlled access from a main entrance.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    Ireland sample size is too small to get an accurate representation of the situation here, but I included anyway. Despite Germany being the 3rd oldest country on the planet, they have the lowest CFR out of all of the countries that have over 1,000 cases. Unlike the last table where I arranged it by median age, this one is been arranged by CFR.

    Country | Median Age |Cases | Deaths | Case Fatality Rate
    Italy |45.5 | 24,747 | 1,809 | 7.30%
    Iran |30.3 | 13,938 | 724 | 5.19%
    China |37.4| 80,860 | 3,199 | 3.97%
    World | 30.4 | 169,719 | 6,518 | 3.84%
    Spain |42.7 | 7,845 | 292 | 3.72%
    UK | 40.5 | 1,391 | 35 | 2.51%
    France |41.4| 5,423 | 127 | 2.34%
    USA| 38.1 | 3,782 | 69 | 1.82%
    Netherlands | 42.6 | 1,135 | 20 | 1.76%
    Ireland | 36.8 | 169 | 2 | 1.18%
    South Korea | 41.8 | 8,236 | 75 | 0.91%
    Switzerland | 42.4 | 2,217 | 14 | 0.63%
    Sweden | 41.2 | 1,040 | 3 | 0.28%
    Norway| 39.2 | 1,256 | 3 | 0.23%
    Germany| 47.1 | 5,813 | 13 | 0.22%

    When you say average age.. the average age of what exactly? Infected ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    Looks like Japan sacrificing honesty and common good to get the Olympics to start on time. They should be cancelled.

    It's reminding me a little of their reaction to the Fukushima disaster - "What meltdown. Let's just stop talking about this!"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Tordelback


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    China is getting back to normal.

    In China the Cheltenham crowd would have been welded into the RDS Simmonscourt hall and left there. It's not comparable.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Weird times. People leaving China in their droves. People talking about going to there to escape Europe.

    I thought 2020 was going to be mad because of Brexit.. Who could have foreseen this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭2xj3hplqgsbkym


    I just have to vent my frustration here for a sec.

    My nine year old nephew has been waiting for heart surgery since this time last year. His surgery has been due to go ahead and has been cancelled on the day, on no less than eight occasions in the past twelve months. My 60 year old mother (who looks after my brother who has special needs), drives four hours to look after their other kids each time the surgery has been scheduled. The surgery is due to happen on Wed this week.

    I just know that it's going to be cancelled and I've been begging my mother not to go up for fear one of them will give the virus to her. They're in a major, major hot-spot.

    I offered to go in her place, but she's so stubborn and my sister is just completely demented from worry so it's a fraught situation. I'm going to put my foot down on Tuesday if it still hasn't been cancelled by then. I'll set fire to the feckin house if it comes to it. That would potentially result in less collateral damage.

    Your sister must be distraught. However with a child who is unwell, she hopefully has been very careful lately. If your mother wants to go that is her choice. If the surgery went ahead and she wasn’t there for her daughter she would probably be distraught.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Re closing borders. Looks like our overlords in Europe are doing just that.

    Coronavirus: Germany to close borders with France, Austria and Switzerland to contain spread of Covid-19 and panic-buying

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-germany-update-news-borders-closed-panic-buying-stockpiling-a9403061.html

    Unbelievable that we were told that no restrictions on travel to and from those countries where the majority of our cases originated from was possible in ths interest of EU 'open borders'

    Time our politicians to grow a pair and look to restricting travel to and from the UK in response to their policy of allowing mass infection amongst their population and an inevitible impending public health crisis there

    The last thing we need is a situation where we become overrun by those fleeing the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭a_squirrelman


    A man from the Restaurants Association on Radio 1 now saying "we want to close but the government need to tell us to close"

    What?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,821 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    sideswipe wrote: »
    The winner of the Bath Half Marathon was Paul Pollock, an Irish Doctor and elite runner. You'd think he'd have more sense :mad:



    (Northern) Irish.
    The difference might be small for somethings but from a medical point of view it appears to be massive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,643 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Even though infections are not going up in China officially , they still very much are fighting this. You still cannot buy any cold or cough medicine in the pharmacies, anyone thought to be sick at all is marched straight to the hospital and put in a ward with a bunch of other potentially/actually infected. We are all still a long way away from "normal" again.

    Have a weather station?, why not join the Ireland Weather Network - http://irelandweather.eu/



  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A man from the Restaurants Association on Radio 1 now saying "we want to close but the government need to tell us to close"

    What?

    Probably insurance.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    Tordelback wrote: »
    In China the Cheltenham crowd would have been welded into the RDS Simmonscourt hall and left there. It's not comparable.

    Their economy took a whopping though. Down up to 25% in some sectors such as manufacturing. They have been lauded for releasing the figures. Normally they keep the info to themselves.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,664 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Los Angeles taking a pro active move and going on lockdown from Tuesday. More and more US cities are realising what needs to be done despite government advice.

    CDC said mass gatherings of 50+ people should be cancelled for next 8 weeks


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