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woodchuck · 12-03-2020 03:30PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Of course it's up to each individual to decide what's best to do in each case...

Balance up the risks, which is more important, health or money..
The potential loss of earnings from being infected.
The risk of being quarantined in a foreign country.
The cost of having to purchase new travel tickets at short notice and at a high cost due to lack of available flights...

Again, you're making out like I said I was still seriously considering going. I'm not. I'm just deciding the best WAY to cancel before I actually do.

PhoenixParker · 12-03-2020 03:37PM

redcup342 wrote: »

I think you are reading a bit too much Internet and pulling pieces of information from wherever suits.

I'll follow the advisory from the local government here, rather than try and become and armchair expert myself, it's what they're paid for after all.

I am not.

Ask yourself when is the last time flights between European countries were suspended?
When is the last time flights between Europe and the US were suspended?
When is the last time creches, schools and universities were shut down for a non-weather related emergency?

Governments around the world are throwing their countries into out and out recessions to stop this thing.

It is not possible to be too scared about this virus.

Tenzor07 · 12-03-2020 03:38PM

woodchuck wrote: »

Again, you're making out like I said I was still seriously considering going. I'm not. I'm just deciding the best WAY to cancel before I actually do.

Dude chill, I honestly couldn't care less what you personally do.

My advice to those who are considering travel in the next 4 weeks is not to.

I won't be replying to you again.

ted1 · 12-03-2020 03:48PM

PhoenixParker wrote: »

I am not.

Ask yourself when is the last time flights between European countries were suspended?
When is the last time flights between Europe and the US were suspended?
When is the last time creches, schools and universities were shut down for a non-weather related emergency?

Governments around the world are throwing their countries into out and out recessions to stop this thing.

It is not possible to be too scared about this virus.

The sentences preceding your last one imply that it’s very possible

Ironicname · 12-03-2020 04:01PM

Jimbob1977 wrote:

We are 50/50. Any views?

My view is that you would be absolutely irresponsible to even think about it. It's horrible to lose money but my god, if you are even contemplating travelling after the news over the last few days, its baffling to think where your priorities lie.

Ironicname · 12-03-2020 04:05PM

Mach Two wrote:

Need advice. I was hoping to go to Norway in a week's time. I don't have to go but it would be a nice break. Should I stay at home or go.

Really?

raxy · 12-03-2020 04:12PM

Ironicname wrote: »

My view is that you would be absolutely irresponsible to even think about it. It's horrible to lose money but my god, if you are even contemplating travelling after the news over the last few days, its baffling to think where your priorities lie.

Why so baffling? The government are not advising against travel to where he wants to go. The WHO do not recommend any travel restrictions as there is no evidence that they do anything to prevent the spread of the disease.

Do you know more about this then either of those?

I'm not suggesting anybody travels or not, I've decided to forfit the deposit for my holiday, but the outrage of some posters of people asking questions is a bit over the top. People are as likely (in a lot of cases more likely) to get the disease staying here rather than travelling, they just need to excersise caution.

Jimbob1977 · 12-03-2020 04:20PM

Britain just changed the status to 'Delay'.

I think we'll postpone our trip

Breaston Plants · 12-03-2020 04:34PM

Does anyone think that the government will issue a " Do not travel to Spain" in the next few days considering what's happening in Madrid?

redcup342 · 12-03-2020 04:41PM

PhoenixParker wrote: »

I am not.

Ask yourself when is the last time flights between European countries were suspended?

10 years ago, Volcano in Iceland

When is the last time flights between Europe and the US were suspended?

10 years ago, Same reason

When is the last time creches, schools and universities were shut down for a non-weather related emergency?

Plenty of Times, there are outbreaks of TB and Measles all the time (and other Infectious diseases that pose a risk to Public Health), I myself had to be tested for TB along with 800 others that had been exposed.

Governments around the world are throwing their countries into out and out recessions to stop this thing.

Don't care, I follow the advice of Local Government Public Health Organisation. Recession is a topic for the Government I voted for to deal with.

It is not possible to be too scared about this virus.

Respect is what you should have for it, Fear just means people will irrational choices and see everything in a poor light.

I'm not going to live my life in fear either, I'll just follow what the advice from official channels pertaining to the Country I live in, nothing more nothing less.

str8talkingguy · 12-03-2020 04:47PM

I was planning on going somewhere up until this hit.

I have no problem postponing it,but my fear is that they actually lock everything down in a couple weeks and i'm almost tempted to get out now while i still can.

Anyone know whats the chances of airports being totally locked down in a couple weeks

raxy · 12-03-2020 04:55PM

str8talkingguy wrote: »

I was planning on going somewhere up until this hit.

I have no problem postponing it,but my fear is that they actually lock everything down in a couple weeks and i'm almost tempted to get out now while i still can.

Anyone know whats the chances of airports being totally locked down in a couple weeks

Unlikely, exporting the virus is allowed, its importing they're worried about.
Unless it gets bad an here & where you plan on going doesn't allow planes from Ireland

random_banter · 12-03-2020 05:17PM

Following all existing official government advice would have us going to France on Saturday as planned. It's not a "do not travel" area. There are just two of us. We are going to an unaffected region and traveling through Geneva.

But there is huge fear about a French or Swiss lockdown being whispered into our ears, about getting stuck there.

Our companies are on work from home now. So self-isolating on our return wouldn't be a problem.

There is of course the risk of going through a highly infected airport. But it's all a risk as people are unable to predict the spread. We would pick it up and spread it just as easily now by going to our local Tesco.

This is more of a ramble than anything useful. Apologies. Show of hands who is still planning to travel to Europe over the next couple of weeks? Pending lockdown-esque measures there?

Ironicname · 12-03-2020 06:02PM

raxy wrote:

Why so baffling? The government are not advising against travel to where he wants to go. The WHO do not recommend any travel restrictions as there is no evidence that they do anything to prevent the spread of the disease.

The WHO and the government have been specific in Saying that social distancing and personal responsibility are key to preventing the spread of the virus.

You seem to think that going on a holiday to a densely tourist area is ok unless explicitly told not to.

That's what's baffling.

titan18 · 12-03-2020 06:06PM

Hotel offered me a refund. I booked with a non refundable rate so I find that exceptionally nice of them taking care of their guests like that.

Going to try and get one off Aer Lingus later, or at least a voucher to reuse, but not expecting much off them

homer1982 · 12-03-2020 06:25PM

If you booked with a credit card are you covered for any nonrefundable cancellations? I tried to look at this and I know in the UK there is a section 75 that deals with these situations but I was not sure about Ireland. I found the following link to mastercard

https://www.mastercard.ie/en-ie/consumers/features-benefits/card-benefits.html

VG31 · 12-03-2020 06:39PM

titan18 wrote: »

Going to try and get one off Aer Lingus later, or at least a voucher to reuse, but not expecting much off them

Air France/KLM, Lufthansa Group airlines, SAS, Croatia Airlines and Aegean are offering free rebooking for exising bookings, with AF/KL also offering a refund by means of a voucher valid for one year.

Aer Lingus and BA however are not allowing free changes for exisiting bookings. I wouldn't expect anything from Ryanair but with EI/BA you'd expect better.

raxy · 12-03-2020 07:18PM

Ironicname wrote: »

The WHO and the government have been specific in Saying that social distancing and personal responsibility are key to preventing the spread of the virus.

You seem to think that going on a holiday to a densely tourist area is ok unless explicitly told not to.

That's what's baffling.

Actually I did not suggest anyone travel, maybe read my post properly.
I mearly questioned peoples aggressive opinions when people are simply asking for advice.

titan18 · 12-03-2020 07:19PM

VG31 wrote:

Aer Lingus and BA however are not allowing free changes for exisiting bookings. I wouldn't expect anything from Ryanair but with EI/BA you'd expect better.

Ya, if it was Ryanair, I'd expect nothing. Hopefully Aer Lingus will do something. I fly with them often enough that it'd be nice if they did.

Taylor365 · 12-03-2020 08:05PM

Countries going on lock down, you don't think you should be entitled to a refund?

Breaston Plants · 12-03-2020 08:06PM

Taylor365 wrote: »

Countries going on lock down, you don't think you should be entitled to a refund?

Only Italy is on lockdown I think?

wijam · 12-03-2020 08:14PM

Just called off trip to Girona on Saturday for 5 days, too many unknowns to risk it, got a refund from the hotel but think flights and bike rental money are a goner.

Also think week in Mallorca at Easter is a goner, but should be able to claim most back. Will have to wait and see for Amsterdam in May and Girona again in June.

And there was me thinking it was great to get everything booked and paid for by the end of the year

titan18 · 12-03-2020 08:17PM

wijam wrote:

Just called off trip to Girona on Saturday for 5 days, too many unknowns to risk it, got a refund from the hotel but think flights and bike rental money are a goner.

Ya, I'm not expecting much with the flight. Was on hold for 30 mins and just gave up.

kravmaga · 12-03-2020 08:17PM

Meanwhile a Dutch national thought it was funny to create an air rage incident on an Aer Lingus aircraft, saying he had the corona virus.

What a spanner.

2 months in the Joy will sort him out .

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0312/1121915-hoax-covid-19-aer-lingus/

Taylor365 · 12-03-2020 08:19PM

Breaston Plants wrote: »

Only Italy is on lockdown I think?

But the uncertainty!

Will they lock down Netherlands while I'm in Amsterdam?

Will Ireland ever lock down? (haha yea right)

Should be blanket refunds to put people at ease.

But we all know the ryaniar shower will run empty planes to double up on sweet sweet €€€€. Low-fueled, fully-booked empty planes.

Breaston Plants · 12-03-2020 08:24PM

Taylor365 wrote: »

But the uncertainty!

Will they lock down Netherlands while I'm in Amsterdam?

Will Ireland ever lock down? (haha yea right)

Should be blanket refunds to put people at ease.

But we all know the ryaniar shower will run empty planes to double up on sweet sweet €€€€. Low-fueled, fully-booked empty planes.

I understand. Booked tickets for Madrid next weekend 3 months ago.

titan18 · 12-03-2020 08:24PM

Taylor365 wrote:

But we all know the ryaniar shower will run empty planes to double up on sweet sweet â‚¬â‚¬â‚¬â‚¬. Low-fueled, fully-booked empty planes.

Whatever about Ryanair, I'd expect better off Aer Lingus. Even if it wasn't a full refund, offer credit for the flight so that when it's over, you'll rebook. They can keep the money then at least, look good for PR and keep a customer

kingshankly · 12-03-2020 08:52PM

easypazz wrote: »

We need to get rid of a few billion people, so let it spread.

Be careful what you wish for

kingshankly · 12-03-2020 08:53PM

Mr.S wrote: »

Most countries will get a couple of cases at this rate.

European countries are well prepared, I wouldn't worry.

I wouldn't be travelling to China, but apart from that :pac:

You called that spot on😂 mad looking back on early posts

12-03-2020 09:10PM

I've Lanzarote booked for end of July and absolutely not going as of now.
I know alot of people think it'll be gone by then but I can see this playing out for a lot longer we're only starting off here in Ireland.
Due to go to Spain too end of June, same won't be going.
Our international student and all his group have just gotten word tonight that flights are booked to bring them home to Spain tomorrow. There's talk that all Spanish airports will be locked down in the coming weeks.
My thinking is Im going g no where with my kids in 2020 either way.
Time to refuel and keep healthy.
Our son is a chronic asthmatic BTW.
Well loose money on the Spanish flights and loose the deposit on the Lanzarote one, I suppose I'll still be expected to pay the balance on that soon but won't be happening either.

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