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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • #8762
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,440 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    gabeeg wrote: »
    it can become endemic, meaning it never stops circulating

    like the flu and cold have done

    Which is fine once herd resistance is built up globally and as younger generations age they'll carry those antibodies with them and reduce the acute level in older age.


  • #8763
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Stevieluvsye wrote: »
    Pm sent

    Thanks for the PM:)


  • #8764
    banie01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,808 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    Askeaton are wanting to press ahead with their parade!
    I've always had a bet theory that people from placenames beginning with A developed a bit of stupidity...
    But fúck me!
    This is sheer wanton reckless dangerous idiocy!

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=227234065346523&id=110673040335960&comment_id=227312035338726&notif_t=feedback_reaction_generic&notif_id=1583881622363161&ref=m_notif&refid=48


  • #8765
    skimpydoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Stevieluvsye wrote: »
    Pm sent
    Can you PM me too.


  • #8766
    Shn99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    Stevieluvsye wrote: »
    Pm sent

    could you pm me too if you dont mind?


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  • #8767
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    Dr on tonight show

    Close everything stop travel now!


    I'll defer to the chief medical officer thanks and not a doctor on a TV show.


  • #8768
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    The decision not to test for community transmission until they pop up in hospital already ill is bordering on unforgivable at this stage.

    how would you go about testing for community transmission?


  • #8769
    Daz_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 930 ✭✭✭Daz_


    little bess wrote: »
    I’d love to do that. I’m not working due to illness at the moment anyway, but I can’t imagine persuading my daughters, early twenties, to lock down. No way would they do it unless forced by government.

    Yeah it’s drastic enough but I’m considering it . Try and get ahead of this !


  • #8770
    Kaisr Sose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,685 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    I find it very informative

    Very good. IF you want, a quick Google search wull give current figures


  • #8771
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    spookwoman wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1237513541369896961?s=20

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1237514335288725504?s=20

    Firstly was this included in today's cases?

    Secondly the government needs to open up the criteria for testing to ALL to avoid potential sh!t shows like this.


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  • #8772
    drkpower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭drkpower


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    This is very odd advice from the HSE. The sooner you lockdown the sooner its over. The longer you postpone lockdown the more cases you will have and the longer the lockdown will be.

    The logic behind it is flawed

    Not necessarily; if you impose draconian measures that are not capable of being sustained over a long period, and then those measures are stopped, or more likely ignored, all you do is push the epidemic curve back a few weeks. The ‘second’ curve hits when you have an economy in a worse state and a populus unwilling to comply.

    That would be far far worse.

    It’s not surprising that the medics advocating the early lockdown approach are clinicians and not public health doctors.


  • #8773
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    Very good. IF you want, a quick Google search wull give current figures

    Maybe they want to follow in thread?


  • #8774
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Poor_old_gill wrote: »
    He acts on advice given to him by the medical professionals in the HSE.
    Also he doesn’t have the authority to make unilateral decisions to enforce shut downs, etc

    Based on the advice on the HSE website that there was no need to isolate after returning from places like Northern Italy until you experienced symptoms (potentially infecting numerous people) he's getting really bad advice which he didn't bother to question.


  • #8775
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,006 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    spookwoman wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1237513541369896961?s=20

    https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1237514335288725504?s=20

    Utterly staggering how deciding to test seems like a momentous last ditch herroic effort, done with reluctance.


  • #8776
    Xertz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭Xertz


    banie01 wrote: »
    Askeaton are wanting to press ahead with their parade!

    Doesn't look like the responses they're getting on Facebook to their idea are particularly supportive. It's an impressive reality check of public opinion!


  • #8777
    Stevieluvsye
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Saying that there are bigger numbers coming tomorrow is like saying the grass is green.

    If you have some info, spit it out.

    Posts like the above reminds me of ‘de fb huns who post about odder people an dey kno who dey r’ kinda crap.

    Pmd hun


  • #8778
    skimpydoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I'll defer to the chief medical officer thanks and not a doctor on a TV show.
    I would trust Dr John Crown more. He has been bang on the money from day one. He is his putting his patients first.


  • #8779
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    I'll defer to the chief medical officer thanks and not a doctor on a TV show.

    Good stuff


  • #8780
    LuckyLloyd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,587 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Why is that, in that format, in any way useful?

    I found it very illustrative


  • #8781
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,445 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    froog wrote: »
    how would you go about testing for community transmission?

    People with symptoms are being identified by GPs but because they haven't been recently traveling or had contact with a known case, GPs can't get them tested so they are being asked to self isolate. But they could've spread it at work, at home etc.


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  • #8782
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Firstly was this included in today's cases?

    Secondly the government needs to open up the criteria for testing to ALL to avoid potential sh!t shows like this.

    Yep that's what was said that it was included in todays numbers
    https://twitter.com/Deisesupes/status/1237455860395323392?s=20

    and later posted https://twitter.com/Deisesupes/status/1237497101052936192?s=20


  • #8783
    SDKev
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭SDKev


    Daz_ wrote: »
    Anyone thinking about going off the grid ? Eg maybe have a holiday home or just their main home - take time off work , kids out of school etc and just proper locking down ?

    It has certainly crossed my mind to do so

    We decided this today - one of my kids has been hospitalised a few times for asthma
    One of the confirmed cases today is from the catchment area of their school

    They won’t be back in school until we’ve a better understanding of how this will play out - they’re in primary school so no big exams


  • #8784
    Shelga
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,050 ✭✭✭Shelga


    Nadine Dorries, best known for being a hardcore Brexiter.

    As with everyone else infected by this wretched virus, I hope she makes a speedy recovery. However, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all... I'll just leave this here instead.


    https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/the-internet-reacts-as-hardline-brexiteer-nadine-dorries-is-given-a-job-in-government-1-6186723?jwsource=cl


  • #8785
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,293 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Snowbiee21 wrote: »
    Realistically how Long can it last in ireland

    Trinity College Prof said on Six One News that it could be a seasonal virus and could start to seriously reduce in summer *or* it could be something weird and unpredictable.

    They simply don't know at the moment and are watching the virus like a hawk.


  • #8786
    Poor_old_gill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Based on the advice on the HSE website that there was no need to isolate after returning from places like Northern Italy until you experienced symptoms (potentially infecting numerous people) he's getting really bad advice which he didn't bother to question.

    So who should he be taking advice from?
    Bearing in mind that he’s not a public health specialist.

    Do you think that if someone else was in the role that they would clear out all the specialists in the HSE and bring in a completely new executive?


  • #8787
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    drkpower wrote: »
    Not necessarily; if you impose draconian measures that are not capable of being sustained over a long period, and then those measures are stopped, or more likely ignored, all you do is push the epidemic curve back a few weeks. The ‘second’ curve hits when you have an economy in a worse state and a populus unwilling to comply.

    That would be far far worse.

    It’s not surprising that the medics advocating the early lockdown approach are clinicians and not public health doctors.

    And that's where fines and prison sentences for breaking lockdowns come into play which they will have to. If someone doesn't like draconian measures tough sh*t. This isn't a game you can opt out of because you don't like the rules.


  • #8788
    little bess
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 484 ✭✭little bess


    Daz_ wrote: »
    Yeah it’s drastic enough but I’m considering it . Try and get ahead of this !

    Yeah, do it if you can! That’s what why’re doing in Italy now, so if you can protect your family and afford to self isolate I’d do it.
    Unfortunately mine have adult minds of their own now!


  • #8789
    wheresthebeef
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭wheresthebeef


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    The decision not to test for community transmission until they pop up in hospital already ill is bordering on unforgivable at this stage.

    Agreed. It is also the most likely cause of depleting our numbers of active healthcare workers who can respond to this. Each case like this will result in 60 or more HCW's in self isolation at exactly the time their hospital needs them most.


  • #8790
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,683 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Can I have a PM too? Don't know what they're for, but I feel left out


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  • #8791
    drkpower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭drkpower


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    And that's where fines and prison sentences for breaking lockdowns come into play which they will have to. If someone doesn't like draconian measures tough sh*t. This isn't a game you can opt out of because you don't like the rules.

    That’s just silly; you can’t enforce that kid of approach. It’s easy to type, and I’m sure typing it makes you feel better; impossible to effect.


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