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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    oh dear,

    some "experts" in France suggesting that they wait two weeks to see if the measures taken by Italy have worked.
    Nobody has the luxury to wait two weeks ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭D9Male


    Italy's daily death total is shocking today. 168 deaths in a day is shocking. I hope to god it doesn't get that bad (proportionally) here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    The bastards. It should've been €1,200 per person.
    US response is pitiful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,807 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Paddys-Day-220 virus!

    It's Kung Flu!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    wadacrack wrote: »

    Based on that we are probably about 2 weeks behind Italy. That's not a long time. Why don't we have the balls to implement some of the measures that have proven to work in containing this thing. Doing the four stage strategy. I know the government has started to address the problem but more is needed if we are to avoid the same fate. We have decided not to test enough people (criteria is ridiculously narrow) because the test might come back positive and we wouldn't be able to isolate everyone. The net effect is we let it go undetected and hit the wave when it comes. It's out there now and spreading.

    The incubation period / asymptomatic cases / longevity on surfaces mean that this thing goes under the radar.

    A wave hits and by then it's too late.
    • wait and see does not work
    • it spreads readily in the community (even with hand washing)
    • hospitals will get overwhlemed
    • people will die
    • testing is needed for all suspected cases or complete community isolation
    • the economic cost is far greater if we doing nothing

    Easier to be first



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    laurah591 wrote: »
    Or theyve slowed testing and people have slowed presenting given stuff that has been published recently 're capacity issues in Italy's healthcare

    I hope I'm wrong and they have slowed spread


    testing is not slowing

    nearly 7000 tests were carried out today in Italy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    Iran had a large drop in new cases but shot back up today toward 900.

    Results can only announced for those tested of course.
    But do we have any clue about the measures or restrictions the iranian government is taking?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    This is the part people need to get there head around,

    there are 9 confirmed cases, that is not saying how many cases there actually are.

    The problem it would appear is that there are many cases going about until the first confirmation, by then the horse has already bolted.

    Traveling to anywhere now should be halted, Moldova have taken a very serious approach at its outset on this,

    No foreigners are permitted into the country if travelling from a country that has any confirmed infections, only Moldovans allowed to return.

    Thats what needs to happen everywhere.
    At the moment, outside of a few hotpsots that have it bad such as Madrid, Northern Italy, and a couple other cluster areas, you should be ok to travel to and from somewhere. I wouldn't go for longer than a week though.

    Anyone telling others they are grand to go to Budapest, Stockholm, etc because there are shag all or no confirmed cases there is boll***.

    Firstly it doesn't factor in that the confirmed cases in some of those places may have infected half the city already and it just hasn't taken off.

    Secondly you are going through an airport and that means you are in relatively close proximity to people who may have travelled from God knows where.
    Infected people may have touched a door in the jacks, may have touched a trolley, touched the keypad on a cash machine, handed over cash to a shop attendant who now passes it on to you.

    And all of that is before you end up sitting in a tin can for a number of hours sharing air with hundreds of other folks who may have been in contact with god knows who or what.

    And the best laugh could be that you end up somewhere when a quarantine lock down comes into effect.
    Sure it might sound great to be in nice hotel in Stockholm, but the novelty will soon wear thin when you can't leave that hotel room for weeks.
    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    First case in Congo.
    100 cases across Africa now, mostly Egypt and Algeria.

    I'm hoping that the slow uptick is due to climate, but I'm thinking it just might be due to less travel perhaps? That would be bad.

    Lets just hope itself and ebola don't mate. :eek:

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    I wasn't expecting us to have tested 1000 people. RTE just said it there. Surely a good sign if we have 1000 tested and only ~30 confirmed cases? Or am I wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,095 ✭✭✭Unearthly


    I can't remember exactly but China had their big bottleneck around 1500 -2000 mark.

    Wasn't there 1 day China announced nearly 15k in 1 day? I think it was when they had changed the criteria for a positive case then had to backdate it. Still scared the feck out of me when I woke up to the news


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,771 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    https://twitter.com/thejournal_ie/status/1237361566527426560?s=21

    It could be spreading like crazy here, and I doubt Blindboy was protected by a plastic bag over his head that had holes in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I wasn't expecting us to have tested 1000 people. RTE just said it there. Surely a good sign if we have 1000 tested and only ~30 confirmed cases? Or am I wrong?

    That's appalling compared to everywhere else if it is only 1000.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    jmayo wrote: »


    Lets just hope itself and ebola don't mate. :eek:

    Last Ebola patient discharged in DR Congo
    The last patient being treated for Ebola in DR Congo has been discharged and there have been no new cases for two weeks.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/newsfeed/2020/03/ebola-patient-discharged-dr-congo-200309090006232.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    RobertKK wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/thejournal_ie/status/1237361566527426560?s=21

    It could be spreading like crazy here, and I doubt Blindboy was protected by a plastic bag over his head that had holes in it.
    Blindboy tweeted about this earlier, the headline is extremely misleading. ~10/15 people were told to self-isolate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Based on that we are probably about 2 weeks behind Italy. That's not a long time. Why don't we have the balls to implement some of the measures that have proven to work in containing this thing. Doing the four stage strategy. I know the government has started to address the problem but more is needed if we are to avoid the same fate. We have decided not to test enough people (criteria is ridiculously narrow) because the test might come back positive and we wouldn't be able to isolate everyone. The net effect is we let it go undetected and hit the wave when it comes. It's out there now and spreading.

    The incubation period / asymptomatic cases / longevity on surfaces mean that this thing goes under the radar.

    A wave hits and by then it's too late.
    • wait and see does not work
    • it spreads readily in the community (even with hand washing)
    • hospitals will get overwhlemed
    • people will die
    • testing is needed for all suspected cases or complete community isolation
    • the economic cost is far greater than doing nothing

    Easier to be first

    In other news, after the government, DoH and HSE having been branded cowards and resigning en masse, a new coronavirus czar emerged from the internet!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    otnomart wrote: »
    testing is not slowing

    nearly 7000 tests were carried out today in Italy


    That's a lot of tests. Today's drop looks like they are starting to see the end of new undetected cases. I'm expecting a surge in the south of Italy now, after that they'll be fine
    I dont know what we are waiting for here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,025 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Coronavirus death toll in Italy jumps to 631 from 463

    Italy's death rate now 6.2%

    https://www.rt.com/news/482767-italy-coronavirus-death-toll-again/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,807 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I wasn't expecting us to have tested 1000 people. RTE just said it there. Surely a good sign if we have 1000 tested and only ~30 confirmed cases? Or am I wrong?

    That the same 1000 that we had tested at the start of last week?

    That there is still only 1000 tested when the contact tracing for each of the 22 cases as of yesterday is worrying.

    The UHL, CUH staff, the glasnevin school and the band that were exposed surely account for a huge portion of those?

    The NAS have been testing 80-100 per day since they started, couple that with the hospital tests countrywide and quite a number of tests are hitting NVLS daily with no indication yet as to there actual testing capacity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    Sam McConkey must have a camera crew following him around the place .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Last Ebola patient discharged in DR Congo
    The last patient being treated for Ebola in DR Congo has been discharged and there have been no new cases for two weeks.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/newsfeed/2020/03/ebola-patient-discharged-dr-congo-200309090006232.html


    Lets sleeping dog lie!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Cw85


    Only another 4 here, all close contact. Still only the two/three community cases so no real spread through the public as of yet. Can see why they are telling us to get imon with our lives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 industry accountant


    RobertKK wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/thejournal_ie/status/1237361566527426560?s=21

    It could be spreading like crazy here, and I doubt Blindboy was protected by a plastic bag over his head that had holes in it.

    Anyone going to that sh1te could do with being isolated permanently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,390 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    1600, 1700 tests possibly carried out.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    1600 - 1700 tests carried out, according to rte news


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    Unearthly wrote: »
    Wasn't there 1 day China announced nearly 15k in 1 day? I think it was when they had changed the criteria for a positive case then had to backdate it. Still scared the feck out of me when I woke up to the news

    Yes.

    Feb 12th.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/china/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,828 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    I wasn't expecting us to have tested 1000 people. RTE just said it there. Surely a good sign if we have 1000 tested and only ~30 confirmed cases? Or am I wrong?

    RTE have been saying that for about a week. Either nobody is telling RTE that there's been more testing done, or they're fibbing, or... no tests are being done!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭Lord Trollington


    Over 100 tests carried out daily in Ireland. Are we supposed to be impressed with those figures ?

    They've carried out 1000 only.

    Those kind of figures does not inspire me. I reckon there are quite of lot of people with CV19 that hasnt been tested .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Cuckoo7


    Spain has forbidden direct flights from Italy since midnight until the 25th of March.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Always find Emma just a bit too excitable in her reports!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    1600 - 1700 tests carried out, according to rte news


    that's great news

    I wish they told us what areas are being tested


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